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Focused on high-quality companies with long-term growth potential.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png</url><title>Long-Term Pick</title><link>https://longtermpick.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2026 20:09:09 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://longtermpick.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Dan]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[longtermpick@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[longtermpick@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Dan]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Dan]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[longtermpick@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[longtermpick@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Dan]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Watchlist #003: November Update, 6 of 10 Stocks in the Buy Zone]]></title><description><![CDATA[APP increased 45%, and CRDO lost a third, while the estimates barely moved. Two names leave, and two join.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-003</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-003</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2026 06:02:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/38b8659e-9923-4ca6-bd47-a6e7734555ae_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> This is my monthly watchlist recheck, with prices as of the Nov 11 close; 4 of the 10 names report in the next 4 weeks. Two names left the list: Netflix moved into the portfolio, and Pinterest failed one of my quality tests. Two new ones joined: Expedia and CarGurus. 6 of the 10 are in their buy zones; CARG, a new name, is the deepest, 23% below its zone. The zones themselves changed too; from this issue on, they follow <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">my Manifest</a> again (30% below the Base Case). The month was not quiet. APP is up 45% since <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002">Watchlist #002</a>, while CRDO and ALAB are both down a third. As I see it, the reports mostly confirmed the estimates, but HubSpot warned about 2027, and Insulet cut its 2027 outlook. The prices moved much more than the numbers.</p><h2>How this issue works</h2><p>The method is the same as in Watchlist #002: consensus EPS for 2026, grown for 5 years at the consensus growth rate plus the dividend yield (capped at 20% total), multiplied by three exit P/E multiples, then discounted at 12% per year. Fair price = the Base Case. AppLovin and Credo keep the models from their full analyses. The forward P/E in the text uses NTM EPS, as in the Koyfin charts; the model sheets show price over each year&#8217;s EPS, so their P/E differs slightly.</p><p>The exit multiples get reset only after a report, so for a name without a new report, they can differ from today&#8217;s chart. The Bear Case takes today&#8217;s multiple or the -1 standard deviation band (one standard deviation below the 5Y mean P/E), whichever is lower. The Base Case takes the 5Y mean, and the Bull Case takes the +1 band. All three are rounded down to a whole multiple and capped at 30x. When every historical anchor is above 30x, the multiples are 20x/25x/30x, which is a PEG of 1.0/1.25/1.5 at my 20% growth cap.</p><p><strong>What changed is the buy zone.</strong> It is now the Base Case fair price x 0.7, per my Manifest rule. On the model sheets, it is the Base Case MoS price.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>In <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-001">Watchlist #001</a> and #002, I used the Bear Case fair price as the buy zone. My Manifest rule is 30% below the Base Case, and I&#8217;ve used this since 2021. <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-004">Portfolio #004</a> has already returned to it, and from this issue on, the watchlist follows the same rule. For most names, the zone moves by 5-14%; for APP, by 46%. For two of them, the change decides the status: APP is in its zone only under the new rule, and CRDO would be in its zone only under the old one. With both rules, the count is the same: 6 of 10.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>The list itself also changed.</strong> NFLX was in its buy zone in both earlier issues; <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/netflix-analysis-2026">the full analysis came out on Oct 27</a>, and the stock moved into the portfolio (the details are in Portfolio #004). Pinterest leaves for a different reason, explained at the end. Expedia and CarGurus are new. I use two screens: quality compounders and emerging growth for younger businesses still building margins.</p><h2>ADSK</h2><blockquote><p>Next earnings: Nov 24 (confirmed)<br>Fair price: $440<br>Buy zone: up to $308<br>Curr Price/Fair Price: 0.59 (<mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">41% undervalued</mark>)<br>PEG: 1.23</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NNys!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc94203-f573-4a89-8fb9-b08cd062b69a_3000x2596.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADSK Valuation, 5Y (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Autodesk (ADSK) makes design and engineering software (AutoCAD, Revit, Fusion) and sells it as subscriptions. Since #002, the stock has increased 11.3%, from $233.60 to $260.01. At the same time, the estimates barely moved. The 2026 EPS is still $12.61, the 2028 EPS moved from $16.46 to $16.36, and the 5Y estimate stayed at 16.21%. The business is excellent: 92.5% gross margin, 36% FCF margin, and 27% ROIC.</p><p>So the fair prices did not change: $288/$440/$455. Autodesk has not reported since #002, so the exit multiples stay at 19x/29x/30x from that issue, not today&#8217;s 20.0x and 28.2x. <strong>The new rule moves the buy zone from $288 to $308, and at $260.01, the stock is 16% below it.</strong> PEG is 1.23, the highest on the list. Autodesk has the slowest expected growth here (16.21%), so even at 20x, I pay more for each point of growth than for any other name.</p><p>The stock is at 20.0x forward earnings, against a 28.2x 5Y mean and a 22.5x -1 standard deviation band. It has been below that band for most of 2026; in the 4 years before, it never traded this low. The derating came mostly from expectations: the 5Y growth estimate is 16.21% today, against ~24% on average over the last 5 years. Several times this year, ADSK fell with other software names amid AI fears, for example on Feb 03 and Sep 04 (-8%, along with Adobe, PTC, and Bentley).</p><p>The reported numbers held up better: revenue grew 16% in the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/769397/000076939726000059/q227pressrelease.htm">Q2 report</a>, and the non-GAAP operating margin reached 41%. Still, billings growth slowed from 33% in Q4 to 10% in Q2. In May, with the Q1 report, Autodesk also agreed to buy MaintainX, a maintenance and operations software company, for <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/769397/000121390026062125/ea029248301ex99-1.htm">~$3.6B in cash</a> (~27x its expected annual recurring revenue of over $135M, which grows above 50%). The next day, ADSK fell 4%. This suggests the market disliked the price; in August, <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/adsk/transcripts/682018-q2-2027/">the CFO</a> called MaintainX &#8220;a drag on operating margin&#8221;.</p><p>What I watch: the 5Y growth estimate after the Nov 24 report. It is below my 20% cap, so the model takes it as is, and every percentage point less takes ~$19 (~4%) off the Base Case fair price. Additionally, on the same call, the CFO said that this year&#8217;s growth has a benefit from the new transaction model &#8220;that will not recur in fiscal 2028&#8221;, so the first look at fiscal 2028 (February 2027 to January 2028, the 2027 column of my model) matters as much as the quarter. After the report, the multiples also reset; on today&#8217;s chart, they would be 20x/28x/30x, and the zone would move to ~$297, with ADSK still ~13% below it.</p><p>Below are the other 9 entries; 5 of them are in their buy zones. The deepest discount on the list is a new name, and the cheapest stock by P/E isn&#8217;t in its zone yet. After the entries: what the screens found, why Pinterest leaves, which names I rejected and why, and the whole list in one table.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AppLovin (APP): 55% Revenue Growth, Still Below 20x Forward Earnings]]></title><description><![CDATA[The stock gained 71% in 5 trading days and still trades at 19.7x forward earnings. The price includes most of the doubt.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/applovin-analysis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/applovin-analysis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2026 08:23:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8dc715e0-e7a3-4469-8c75-0b4300d3744f_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> AppLovin (APP) owns the largest ad platform for mobile games and now sells the same full-screen ads to online shops. The <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000175100826000068/exhibit991-3q26earningspre.htm">Q3 2026 report</a> answered the Q2 miss: revenue grew 55%. Even so, APP trades at 19.7x forward earnings, while consensus expects ~19% EPS growth next year. As I see it, this is one of the most profitable businesses I have analyzed. The discount comes from real doubts: growth depends on model releases, e-commerce is not proven yet, and there are lawsuits and founder control. My accumulation zone is $206-294. At $391, APP is a stock to watch, not one to accumulate: the price already allows for a lower multiple, but not a return to ~12x like in October.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>In August, AppLovin missed the revenue consensus for the first time since 2022, and its adjusted EBITDA came in below its own guidance. By Oct 30, the stock had lost 69% from its December high. Then the Q3 report changed the picture: gaming grew nearly 50%, and consumer grew triple digits, even as the new model generation was only partly rolled out. Meanwhile, APP is still 47% below its high. So the question is simple. After +71% in a week, does the price still undervalue the business, or has the market already priced in the recovery?</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth returned when bears expected a slowdown.</strong> Q3 revenue increased 55% YoY and 14% QoQ to $2.18B, the largest QoQ dollar increase in AppLovin&#8217;s history. Net income grew 72% to $1.44B, and FCF was $1.42B. For Q4, AppLovin guides for revenue of $2.365-2.395B (+43-44% YoY), ~6% above the pre-report consensus.</p></li><li><p><strong>Consensus expects ~19% EPS growth next year; APP trades at less than 20x.</strong> The S&amp;P Global consensus is $17.35 of EPS for 2026 and $20.70 for 2027, +19.3%. APP is at 19.7x forward earnings on Koyfin, and Koyfin&#8217;s PEG is 0.62 on a 32.01% 5Y growth estimate. On next year&#8217;s growth alone, PEG is ~1.0. So I see APP as cheap for its quality, but not as cheap as the 5Y PEG suggests.</p></li><li><p><strong>The economics are exceptional.</strong> On an LTM basis, EBIT margin is 77.78%, FCF margin is 64.44%, and ROIC is 74.08%; each is far above its 5Y mean. Net debt is only $0.34B; AppLovin bought back $3.23B of stock LTM, about 2/3 of its FCF.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple is below its mean, but the mean says little.</strong> APP trades at 19.7x forward earnings against a 25.0x 5Y mean. This mean includes the months after the 2021 IPO (~50-70x) and the 2022-2023 washout (~5-6x), when AppLovin still owned its low-margin games. A better reference, in my view, is the current business: APP traded at ~30-60x in 2025 and at ~12x on Oct 30.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case is about trust - my model reflects that.</strong> Growth depends on model releases that management cannot schedule, AppLovin does not disclose how much revenue comes from e-commerce, and there are lawsuits, founder control, and large insider sales. My model prices the trust part through the Bear Case multiple: 12x, the level of the Oct 30 low. With the growth capped at 20%, the Bear Case fair price is $294 (the top of my accumulation zone) - APP is 33% above it. If growth also slows to 15%, the Bear Case falls to ~$238.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>AppLovin sold its own games (the Apps business) to Tripledot on Jun 30, 2025, for $430.6M in cash and ~22% of Tripledot&#8217;s shares. Since then, it is a pure advertising company, and I use only continuing operations for the history (the advertising business, which AppLovin called &#8220;Software Platform&#8221; before). AppLovin reports only GAAP EPS. The S&amp;P Global consensus and the forward P/E use adjusted EPS. The price anchor is the Nov 06 close of $391.22.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: mid-February 2027 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: $129.62B<br>Sector: Communication Services | Industry: Advertising Technology<br>Type: Large Growth<br>Short Interest: 4.26%</p></blockquote><p>AppLovin connects advertisers with the apps that show their ads. Most of these apps are mobile games, and AppLovin says its ads reach <strong>over 1 billion daily active users</strong>. A typical ad is a full-screen video or a playable mini-game that users watch for a reward or between levels. Adam Foroughi co-founded AppLovin in 2012 and has managed it as the CEO since then; Matt Stumpf is the CFO. <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000175100826000014/app-20260402.htm">In April 2026</a>, Foroughi gave the Chair role to Craig Billings, an independent director, but he still controls 61.6% of the votes. AppLovin is a single segment with four products, according to the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000175100826000069/app-20260930.htm">Q3 10-Q</a>:</p><ul><li><p><strong>AppLovin Ads</strong> (the demand side): advertisers buy installs, purchases, or other actions, then the AXON models predict which user is most likely to act on which ad. It &#8220;comprises the vast majority of revenue&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>MAX</strong> (the supply side): an auction inside the app, where every ad network bids for each ad impression. AppLovin earns &#8220;a percentage of winning auction spend&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>Adjust</strong>: ad campaign measurement, sold as a software subscription.</p></li><li><p><strong>Wurl</strong>: tools for streaming channels on connected TV (CTV).</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dgc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea063853-3ec2-4b7e-940b-aab201b2531d_2397x1159.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dgc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea063853-3ec2-4b7e-940b-aab201b2531d_2397x1159.png 424w, 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The company does not disclose gross spend, but at the All-In Summit in September, the CEO said gross spend through AppLovin&#8217;s ecosystem was approaching ~$20B annualized, and management did not correct an analyst who repeated it on the call. Against Q3 revenue times 4 ($8.74B), AppLovin keeps ~44% of every ad dollar (its take rate), by my rough estimate. If the figure also counts MAX spend that other networks win, the real share is higher - I cannot check how much.</p><p><strong>The costs are small.</strong> Data centers were $194.6M in Q3, 8.9% of revenue, down from 10.0% a year ago. Personnel was only $53.0M, plus $84.2M of SBC, which AppLovin reports separately. This is why 88.78% of revenue becomes gross profit and 77.78% operating profit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yMnG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba1fcc11-a2c5-4132-a46a-17598ed8471f_2520x1330.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yMnG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba1fcc11-a2c5-4132-a46a-17598ed8471f_2520x1330.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yMnG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba1fcc11-a2c5-4132-a46a-17598ed8471f_2520x1330.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Quarterly Results, Q3 2025-Q3 2026 (Data: AppLovin, Nov 04, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Two businesses use one auction.</strong> Gaming is still &#8220;the majority of our revenue&#8221;, as <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/app/transcripts/661674-q2-2026/">the company said in August</a>. The second one, consumer (online shops and other non-gaming apps), has had e-commerce advertisers since 2024, first in a pilot; the self-serve platform opened on a referral basis in October 2025 and to all advertisers in June. AppLovin does not split the two: &#8220;we do not break out obviously between gaming and consumer&#8221;, the company said on the <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/app/transcripts/725385-q3-2026/">Q3 call</a>. We only know that gaming grew &#8220;nearly 50%&#8221; in Q3, and consumer spend grew &#8220;double digits&#8221; QoQ and &#8220;triple digits&#8221; YoY.</p><p>By my rough calculation, consumer is ~8-17% of revenue now. I get this from 55% total growth, with gaming at ~48-50% and consumer at +100-150%. The last share management gave was for Q1 2025: in <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/app/transcripts/397211-q4-2025/">February</a>, they said e-commerce was &#8220;roughly 10%&#8221; of the business then. I think this lack of disclosure is one reason for the discount.</p><h2>Market Overview</h2><p><strong>The ad market grows ~10% a year; mobile apps are one of its fastest-growing segments.</strong> WARC <a href="https://www.warc.com/en/article/global-ad-spend-outlook-q-3-2026-eb1a9505c8d34d1fb3833cf61f675165">expects</a> global ad spend of $1.34T in 2026 (+11.9%) and $1.46T in 2027 (+8.4%). AppsFlyer reported that spending to acquire app users was $78B in 2025 (+13%). Non-gaming apps were $53B (+18%); shopping apps grew 70%. Gaming was only $25B and grew 3%.</p><p><strong>AppLovin&#8217;s own estimate is larger.</strong> The company calls the game ads market &#8220;in the tens of billions&#8221;; at the All-In Summit, the CEO put the whole space at more than double AppLovin&#8217;s ~$20B in gross spend. The numbers differ because the sources count different things; I use the third-party figure as the floor.</p><p><strong>Mobile games themselves are not a growth market.</strong> In the first half of 2026, game downloads and in-app purchases decreased (in-app purchases by 2%), while game ad spend grew 8%, according to <a href="https://sensortower.com/report/h1-2026-gaming-digital-market-index">Sensor Tower</a>. The reason is simple: game publishers spend more on ads to win players from each other - AppLovin earns from this competition. At the same time, it means AppLovin&#8217;s gaming growth comes from a larger share and better models, not from a growing pie. <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/app/transcripts/343672-q2-2025/">In 2025</a>, the company said AppLovin&#8217;s penetration of gaming was &#8220;materially higher than 70%&#8221;; in November, they said, &#8220;We have every mobile gaming company live, probably.&#8221;</p><p><strong>AppLovin gains share in game ads, and the competition grows too.</strong> In <a href="https://tenjin.com/blog/ad-mon-gaming-2026/">Tenjin&#8217;s Oct 21 benchmark</a>, AppLovin earned 53% of game ad revenue on iOS in Q3 2026, up from 39% in Q1 and 42% a year earlier. On Android, it is first with 29%. AppLovin and Google&#8217;s AdMob together have 65% of mobile game ad revenue, according to Sensor Tower. In Tenjin&#8217;s sample, Mintegral and AdMob lose share, while Unity is flat. And Unity is not standing still: its Vector ad platform grew 126% YoY in <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001810806/000181080626000053/a2026q3ex-991.htm">Q3</a>, and Unity guides for 105-107% growth of Strategic Grow (its ad revenue without the ironSource network it closed in Q2) in Q4. The company&#8217;s answer is that the market &#8220;is not zero sum&#8221;.</p><p><strong>Additionally, the two companies are in court.</strong> Unity&#8217;s Ad Quality tool reads data inside MAX (the revenue, creatives, and engagement of the ads AppLovin wins), and AppLovin says Unity may have used this data to train its models. In September, AppLovin asked a court to stop it; on Oct 02, the court <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/applovin-shares-fall-after-court-denies-request-against-unity-4929698">refused a temporary order</a> (a quick ban before the full case), and Unity <a href="https://digiday.com/marketing/mobile-ad-giants-applovin-and-unity-locked-in-legal-dispute-over-data-collection/">called it</a> &#8220;a classic case of a dominant incumbent resorting to litigation and intimidation&#8221;. As I see it, this shows the weak spot of owning the auction while being its largest bidder: if Unity bids more inside MAX, AppLovin&#8217;s take rate (the share of each ad dollar it keeps) can decline.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ourc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cd74e8b-61ae-4d41-80e5-db2f61fffd3e_2520x1114.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ourc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cd74e8b-61ae-4d41-80e5-db2f61fffd3e_2520x1114.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Share of Game Ad Revenue by Network, 2026 (Data: Tenjin and CAS.AI, Oct 21, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>E-commerce is the larger market.</strong> Social media ads alone will be $394.6B in 2026, according to WARC, so even a small share would be large for AppLovin. The best independent data I found is from <a href="https://www.haus.io/blog/is-applovin-more-than-a-hype-channel">Haus</a>, which sells brands tests of whether an ad brought sales that would not have happened anyway. In its tests, AppLovin beat the typical channel in 63-85% of the cases per quarter in 2025, but only 53% in Q1 2026 and 50% in Q2 2026; at 50%, it was no better than the average channel. At the same time, ~66% of the customers AppLovin brought were new to the brand, and the brands that tested it in 2026 raised their AppLovin spend by more than 50%. Wells Fargo <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/analyst-ratings/wells-fargo-reiterates-applovin-stock-rating-on-ecommerce-growth-analysis-93CH-4924530">counted</a> only ~6,000 e-commerce sites on AppLovin in June, against 118,000 for Snapchat, and does not expect an inflection before 2027. This suggests the channel works, but the early, easy returns are over, and growth now depends on AppLovin&#8217;s models and the advertisers&#8217; creatives.</p><p><strong>The platform owners set the rules.</strong> Apple&#8217;s App Tracking Transparency (ATT) limits data about iPhone users; Meta today bids in mobile app auctions only on traffic with a device ID. The company said in February that Meta &#8220;might very well bid on no ID traffic in the next couple of quarters&#8221;. As far as I found, it has not happened yet. On Android, the company admits it &#8220;is more competitive because there&#8217;s a very big competitor out there&#8221;, Google. In my view, this is the market&#8217;s main structural risk: AppLovin builds on platforms it does not control.</p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lO8Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89956c00-4174-4f32-b49d-e9c4981cf52e_2400x1163.png" width="1456" height="706" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Margins, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Every margin is far above its 5Y mean.</strong> On an LTM basis, gross margin is 88.78% vs. a 74.34% 5Y mean, and EBIT margin is 77.78% vs. 38.38%. Net margin is 65.89% (mean: 27.95%), and FCF margin is 64.44% (mean: 44.14%). Those means are low because they include 2022-2023, when AppLovin owned games with much lower margins.</p><p>Still, the FCF margin fell this year from ~72% at the start of 2026 because of the timing of cash taxes. Stumpf now expects FCF of 70-75% of adjusted EBITDA for the full year, against &#8220;approximately 75%&#8221; in May; the first 9 months were 71%.</p><p><strong>The moat is a loop of supply, data, and models.</strong> MAX is in most of the top ad-supported games (73% of the top-downloaded ones in March 2025 data), so AppLovin sees a huge number of auctions every day and learns from every ad it wins. Better predictions let advertisers bid more for the same impression; publishers earn more, so they keep MAX, and more supply comes in. A newcomer needs supply and data at the same time, and neither comes without the other. The company described the MoPub purchase in 2022 as the deal that made MAX what it is: &#8220;we put it out of business in 90 days. But we got all the customers over to our platform&#8221;.</p><p><strong>The best evidence is revenue that grows faster than the cost of serving it.</strong> In Q3, revenue increased 55%, while data center costs grew 38%. Personnel costs are the exception. With SBC, they grew 64%, from $83.8M to $137.2M, faster than revenue; without SBC, only 6%. Even with SBC, personnel is only 6.3% of revenue. AppLovin trained bigger models this quarter, and still &#8220;data center costs declined as a percentage of revenue.&#8221; Of the extra revenue QoQ, 87% reached adjusted EBITDA (which excludes SBC). This suggests the advantage is in the models, not in spending.</p><p><strong>The moat&#8217;s weak point is that it must be renewed every year.</strong> The company explains the risk in plain terms: &#8220;If we innovate at the rate of the market, the market pricing stays consistent... If we fall way behind... our take rate will contract&#8221;. Q2 2026 showed what a lighter quarter looks like: &#8220;Our pace of meaningful model improvement was lighter than normal&#8221;, and revenue came in below the midpoint of the guidance. So the moat is not a network that protects itself, <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026">like Visa&#8217;s</a>; it is a lead in technology and data that AppLovin has to maintain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2yB-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8b8e05-f193-4d68-96c1-93b82729bf76_2394x1162.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2yB-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8b8e05-f193-4d68-96c1-93b82729bf76_2394x1162.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The returns are extreme.</strong> ROIC is 74.08% against a 30.73% 5Y mean. ROE is 210.09% (mean: 103.86%), and ROA is 49.57% (mean: 18.14%). Of the three, ROE looks inflated, since buybacks keep equity low ($3.30B against $5.01B of LTM net income). ROIC and ROA do not have this problem; both have increased every quarter since 2023. In my opinion, AppLovin has <strong>a narrow moat</strong>: the returns prove a real advantage today, but it depends on staying ahead in models and on platforms that Apple and Google own.</p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>A new model generation, rolled out in parts.</strong> In Q3, AppLovin &#8220;partially rolled out the next generation of our models&#8221;, and the company compares its technical complexity with Axon 2.0, the 2023 upgrade that started the current growth. The new architecture lets AppLovin train bigger models on more compute, and it works better &#8220;where data is sparser&#8221;, which is where consumer advertisers are. Management does not promise a date: &#8220;We cannot tell you or commit to when we can actually see a full rollout&#8221;. From my perspective, this is the main source of upside and of risk at once, since the Q2 miss had the same cause in the other direction.</p><p><strong>Consumer: from games to every app advertiser.</strong> In June, AppLovin opened its self-serve platform, AppLovin Ads Manager, to all advertisers. The plan is &#8220;mid-market advertisers first&#8221;, then the long tail. It works &#8220;really well for the customers that we either handhold or they come in and are sophisticated&#8221;, the company said, but a small business with little data is &#8220;still further into the future&#8221;. Partnerships with agencies and platforms are now the main channel for new customers. Worth noting that e-commerce changes the seasonality: &#8220;we should see bigger Q4s followed by tougher Q1s&#8221;.</p><p><strong>Creative is the bottleneck.</strong> An AppLovin ad is watched for over 35 seconds on average, so an online shop needs much more video than on social media. In <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/app/transcripts/555450-q1-2026/">May</a>, management said the video generation tool was &#8220;days away&#8221; from rollout; in August, the company said a good 30-60 second video &#8220;out of the box&#8221; is &#8220;still work in progress&#8221;. On the Q3 call, he described the answer as &#8220;both&#8221;: better AI video models and new ad formats such as dynamic product ads. The securities lawsuit filed in September is built largely on this gap between May and August.</p><p><strong>CTV, a long option.</strong> AppLovin has pilot campaigns on connected TV, and the company sees it as &#8220;what mobile looked like to us 10, 15 years ago&#8221;. At the same time, he said, &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t bank on it at all for being accretive to numbers anytime soon&#8221;. I agree, and my model does not include anything for it.</p><p><strong>Buying data instead of waiting for it.</strong> The new models are &#8220;going to be starved for data&#8221;, and AppLovin is open to &#8220;some sort of data acquisition&#8221;: buying customer relationships, as with MoPub. As I see it, the logic is sound, but a large acquisition would also use the cash that now goes to buybacks.</p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uP1Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfcd54b-df09-40c5-89e8-111c0469dd78_2400x1161.png" width="1456" height="704" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Net debt is almost gone.</strong> At the end of Q3, AppLovin had $3.17B of cash and $3.52B of debt, so net debt was $0.34B, ~0.07x of LTM FCF. The debt is four notes with coupons of 5.125-5.950%, and nothing matures before December 2029.</p><p>Based on my calculations from the quarterly balance sheets, Debt/Equity is 106.6% vs. a 248.2% 5Y mean; Debt/Capital is 51.6% vs. 68.0%. In 2023-2024, net debt was ~$2.6-2.8B on a much smaller business.</p><p><strong>There is room to borrow.</strong> Management targets net leverage of ~1x adjusted EBITDA; in that case, AppLovin could borrow ~$6B more for a large deal or buyback, by my estimate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CHoW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac94d07b-6f3a-4262-bc70-b7f4ca604527_2400x1156.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CHoW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac94d07b-6f3a-4262-bc70-b7f4ca604527_2400x1156.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF is close to net income, but not above it this year.</strong> LTM FCF is $4.90B on Koyfin ($4.88B on AppLovin&#8217;s definition, which also subtracts finance lease payments), against a $1.92B 5Y mean. In Q2, FCF was only $863M because of the timing of cash taxes, and Q3 came back to $1.42B, 77% of adjusted EBITDA. Over the first 9 months, operating cash flow was $3.59B, below net income of $3.91B. Receivables increased $571M with the growth, and AppLovin paid $926M in cash taxes against a $770M tax expense. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Shares Outstanding and Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>In Q3, the buybacks were well timed.</strong> The company bought back 7.3M shares for $2.9B in the first 9 months, ~$396 per share. Q3 alone was 4.1M shares for $1.4B, ~$339 on average, after the stock fell; AppLovin called it &#8220;opportunistically ramping up the buyback&#8221;. Then, in October, the board added $3.2B, bringing the remaining authorization to $3.6B (2.8% of the market cap).</p><p><strong>The longer record is strong too.</strong> Since the program started in 2022, AppLovin has bought back 104M shares for $9.4B, ~$90 per share. The share count decreased from 338.5M to 331.3M in a year, and by 11.3% over 5 years; the LTM buyback yield is 2.57% (5Y mean: 2.00%). The company pays no dividend.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fy0W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85defe04-d368-47ed-a1b2-c0de640825d0_2397x1156.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fy0W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85defe04-d368-47ed-a1b2-c0de640825d0_2397x1156.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fy0W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85defe04-d368-47ed-a1b2-c0de640825d0_2397x1156.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Expenses, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Stock-based compensation is growing again.</strong> SBC was $84.2M in Q3, up 2.5x from $33.8M in Q3 2025, and $333M LTM, or 4.4% of revenue. In addition, R&amp;D expense, which includes most of the SBC, increased 132% YoY in Q3. LTM, it was $378M. Buybacks still reduce the share count, so dilution is covered for now.</p><p><strong>The timing of the new grants is worth noting.</strong> On Oct 29, at a $254.91 close and 4 trading days before the report, the board granted new awards to executives: 128,055 RSUs to Foroughi (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000184839526000015/primarydocument.xml">Form 4</a>), and 91,467 RSUs plus 182,224 performance units tied to the market cap to Giovanni Ge, the new CTO. A week later, the stock was 53% higher.</p><p><strong>Governance is the weak part of capital allocation.</strong> Foroughi has 61.6% of the votes with 9.0% of the shares, and all directors and officers together have 64.0% of the votes, according to the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000175100826000028/app-20260420.htm">2026 proxy</a>. On Oct 29, Foroughi, Herald Chen (a director), and related holders approved the move from Delaware to Nevada by <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1751008/000175100826000068/app-20261029.htm">written consent</a>, so the other shareholders have no real vote; AppLovin has not stated a reason. In 2026, insiders sold $372.5M of stock on the open market, all between March and July at $447-600, and nobody bought below $300, according to their Form 4 filings. As I see it, this doesn&#8217;t change the business, but it is one reason the market pays less for it.</p><p>In my opinion, <strong>management allocates the cash well, and the guidance is credible</strong>. AppLovin beat revenue consensus in 13 of the last 14 quarters, and the Q3 buybacks were made at ~$339, 13% below today&#8217;s price. The H1 buybacks were less well timed: ~$1.5B at ~$466 per share, while insiders sold at $447-600 between March and July. Still, the governance record is weaker than its capital-return record.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;752c454d-30a3-4665-a1ac-bc577f41cdf2&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Visa (V) operates the largest card payment network in the world and earns a small fee on almost every purchase that goes through it, without lending money or taking credit risk. 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AppLovin already works with almost every mobile game company, game downloads are declining, and Wells Fargo <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/analysts-slashing-price-targets-applovin-162723805.html">argued in August</a> that AppLovin has ~50% of the money mobile games spend on user acquisition and is near a &#8220;plateau&#8221; in wallet share. So the 30% long-term growth that management targets needs consumer to become a large business, and the independent data on consumer weakened in 2026.</p><p><strong>The history adds to the doubt.</strong> In 10 months, the stock fell 69% on a short-seller attack, an SEC inquiry that, according to AppLovin, ended with no action, one weak quarter, and doubts about e-commerce. The market already paid 12x for this business on Oct 30, and it can do so again. If EPS grows only 15% per year and APP trades at 12x in 2031, the fair price is ~$238, 39% below today&#8217;s price; with 20% growth and 12x, it is my Bear Case, $294.</p><p><strong>One risk is outside the multiple.</strong> San Diego County claims that AppLovin used fingerprinting (identifying a device by its technical traits, without an ad ID) to collect children&#8217;s data, and short sellers made similar claims in 2025, which AppLovin called false. 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Unity (U) is the closest competitor: an ad network (Vector) and a mediation platform (LevelPlay) for mobile games. Liftoff (LFTO) is also a mobile ad network. Meta (META) and Alphabet (GOOGL) are the largest performance advertising platforms, and Google&#8217;s AdMob competes directly in game ads. The Trade Desk (TTD) is the largest independent ad platform outside mobile apps. XLC, the Communication Services ETF (APP is 5.8% of it), is the benchmark.</p><p><strong>On forward P/E, APP is in the upper half of the table: META, LFTO, TTD, and XLC are cheaper.</strong> S&amp;P Global data puts APP at 19.9x forward earnings (19.7x on Koyfin), against 18.5x for META, 20.7x for GOOGL, and 14.3x for XLC. TTD is cheaper at 13.9x, but its EPS is expected to decline 12% next year. Unity trades at 26.3x on adjusted EPS from a low base and an LTM GAAP loss, though in Q3 it earned $101M of GAAP operating income, up from a $126M loss a year ago.</p><p>The 3Y forecast gives APP PEG of 0.59 versus 1.48 for META, but this comparison flatters APP: the 3Y window starts in 2025, so it includes the +63% EPS growth in 2026, which is mostly already reported. <strong>For next year&#8217;s growth, APP and META are almost the same</strong>: +19.3% against +19.7%, so PEG is 1.03 against 0.94.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A9Pm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c1ad174-b4a5-4b90-9256-5c5e9af0c1f8_2800x1384.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP vs Competitors: Margins and Returns (Data: S&amp;P Global, Nov 06, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>On margins and cash, AppLovin is far ahead of everyone.</strong> Its LTM operating margin is 77.78%, against 37.78% for Meta, 33.32% for Alphabet, and 35.74% for Liftoff. The FCF margin is 64.44%, against 11.86% for Meta and 4.19% for Alphabet, since both spend heavily on AI data centers.</p><p>As a result, APP is at 26.4x FCF in the first table, against 54.4x for META and 177x for GOOGL. ROA is 49.57%, more than 3x Meta&#8217;s. AppLovin&#8217;s Debt/Equity of 107% looks high only because buybacks keep its equity low; net debt is $0.3B.</p><p><strong>The latest quarter is strong across the sector, and AppLovin still grew fastest at its size.</strong> <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001326801/000162828026066773/meta-20260930.htm">Meta&#8217;s ad revenue</a> grew 26%, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001652044/000165204426000080/googexhibit991q32026.htm">Alphabet&#8217;s revenue</a> 25% (Google Network, where AdMob reports, only ~1%), and Unity&#8217;s 32%. Liftoff <a href="https://finviz.com/news/381327/liftoff-mobile-announces-second-quarter-2026-financial-results">grew 35%</a> in Q2. The Trade Desk <a href="https://www.thetradedesk.com/press-room/the-trade-desk-reports-second-quarter-2026-financial-results">guides</a> for a ~12% decline in Q3. Stumpf put it this way: the largest platforms grew &#8220;between roughly 10% and the mid-20%s&#8221;, and AppLovin 55%.</p><p><strong>LFTO is cheaper on every multiple, but it has debt and slower growth ahead.</strong> It is at 19.3x forward earnings, but it has $1.1B of net debt and negative equity, and its growth is expected to slow to ~16% in 2027.</p><p>In my view, <strong>Meta is the next-best alternative</strong>. It has almost the same forward multiple and the same expected EPS growth next year, a much more diversified business, and its own first-party data, with less exposure to ad-network auctions. AppLovin&#8217;s advantages are its margins and FCF (26x FCF vs. 54x), and faster revenue growth (2027 consensus: +25% vs. +22% for Meta). As I see it, an investor in APP is paid for the higher risk with more FCF per dollar of the price, not with a lower P/E.</p><p>Worth noting that Meta&#8217;s EPS is flat in 2026 ($29.73 against $29.68), so part of its +19.7% in 2027 is a rebound. At $391, I see no clear reason to prefer APP over META on price; at the top of my accumulation zone ($294), APP would trade at ~15x NTM EPS (the consensus for the next 12 months), ~20% below META.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>I wrote this analysis before The Trade Desk reported Q3 on Nov 09, so the TTD numbers here (the comparison table and its Q3 guidance) are from before that report. The TTD report itself gets its own short note with a one-pager.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Past</h2><p>Q3 2026 (ended Sep 30, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Revenue +55% to $2.18B, against the $2.08B Zacks consensus; the top of the guidance was $2.085B</p></li><li><p>Diluted EPS +76% to $4.30, against the $3.94 Zacks consensus; ~$0.12 of it came from an unrealized gain on private equity funds, a third of the $0.36 beat</p></li><li><p>Net income +72% to $1.44B; adjusted EBITDA +59% to $1.84B, an 84% margin</p></li><li><p>FCF $1.42B; buybacks $1.4B (4.1M shares)</p></li><li><p>Revenue in the US +60% to $1.10B, outside the US +52% to $1.09B</p></li><li><p>Q4 guidance: revenue $2.365-2.395B (+43-44%), against ~$2.25B of pre-report consensus; adjusted EBITDA $1.995-2.025B</p></li><li><p>LTM: revenue $7.61B, net income $5.01B ($5.11B on Koyfin), diluted EPS $14.85, FCF $4.88B, ROIC 74.08%</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did APP gain 31% after the report?</strong> In my view, there are four reasons:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The beat was large where it mattered.</strong> Revenue was 5.2% above consensus, and gaming, which the bears saw as saturated, grew nearly 50%.</p></li><li><p><strong>The guidance confirmed it.</strong> At the midpoint, the Q4 revenue guidance was ~6% above the consensus, and it includes only &#8220;the model updates that we&#8217;ve already launched&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>The Q2 explanation proved true.</strong> In August, management said the miss was about timing and &#8220;already been addressed&#8221;. Q3 showed it, and Foroughi repeated that the Q2 problem was &#8220;our own foot fault&#8221;, not competition.</p></li><li><p><strong>The stock was priced for a broken story.</strong> At $228.50 on Oct 30, APP traded at ~12x forward earnings, the lowest multiple since the Apps sale in June 2025.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Most of the rally is a higher multiple, not higher estimates.</strong> From Oct 30 to Nov 06, APP gained 71%. In the same period, the NTM EPS consensus on Koyfin increased only ~4%, to $19.87, and the forward P/E rose from ~12x to 19.7x.</p><p>On Zacks, the 2027 consensus had fallen from $20.72 to $19.63 in the 3 months before the report. In the week after it, 8 analysts raised their 2027 estimate and 1 cut it, and the consensus rose 5.7% to $20.75. So the report mostly reversed the summer estimate cuts.</p><p>In my opinion, the reaction makes sense, since the price had assumed that the Q2 problem was permanent, but the next leg needs growth in estimates, not in the multiple.</p><p><strong>2026 had two legs down: the first on outside news, the second on AppLovin&#8217;s own execution.</strong> From the $733.60 high on Dec 22, 2025, APP fell to $366.91 by Feb 12. The causes included a short-seller report on money laundering (CapitalWatch <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/09/short-seller-capitalwatch-retraction-applovin-hao-tang.html">retracted</a> part of it in February), Google&#8217;s Project Genie AI game tool, the launch of CloudX (a new ad platform led by a MoPub co-founder), and the Q4 report.</p><p>By Jun 01, APP had recovered to $613.70. Then the second leg was about AppLovin itself: on Jul 13, a <a href="https://www.tipranks.com/news/applovin-stock-app-plunges-after-bofa-report-flags-slower-june-e-commerce-growth">Bank of America note</a> on slow e-commerce sign-ups cut the stock 12.6%, and on Aug 06, after the Q2 miss, it fell 19.7%, as analysts <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/06/applovin-stock-q2-earnings-revenue.html">cut their ratings and targets</a>. By Oct 30, APP was 69% below its high. The last step, -10.4% on Oct 30, came with no company news that I could find.</p><p><strong>The longer history is one of the strongest in the market.</strong> Advertising revenue rose from $1.05B in 2022 to $5.48B in 2025, up 73.5% per year, and to $7.61B LTM. Diluted EPS from continuing operations increased from $1.26 in 2023 to $10.04 in 2025, and LTM EPS is $14.85 ($14.91 on Koyfin). Total company FCF increased from $345M in 2021 to $4.88B LTM. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Net EPS, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGTR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2926f6f-4f04-4bd1-9c07-3020866415ff_2400x1156.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Price vs NTM EPS Consensus, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The EPS consensus barely paused, while the price fell 69%.</strong> From ~$13 at the start of 2026, the NTM EPS consensus increased to $19.87 today, with only a small dip after the Q2 report. The price peaked twice, in late 2025 and in June, and both times fell much faster than the estimates. We can see the same gap as in early 2025, after the short reports: the price moves on doubts about the story, while the earnings keep growing.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png" width="1456" height="695" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wnYv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff098e8e0-b60c-4851-a6e6-7845730cc722_2400x1146.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP vs VOO, Total Return CAGR, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>APP beat the S&amp;P 500 by a wide margin, even after the falls.</strong> Over 5 years, APP returned 31.65% per year against 11.37% for VOO with dividends, and since the IPO in April 2021 at $80, 33.0% per year against 12.3%. 2026 is a different story: APP is down 41.9% YTD, while VOO is up 8.7%. A beta of ~2.5 works in both directions. The APP line on the chart starts in 2026, when the stock first had 5 years of history; for reference, VOO returned 15.06% a year over 10 years.</p><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png" width="838" height="215" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:215,&quot;width&quot;:838,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:16541,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/223986283?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8Oj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feae1c9d6-7bfc-4a58-a8ba-ecfb8b84e7b8_838x215.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: 2026 $8.34B (+52.1%), 2027 $10.43B (+25.1%) and 2028 $12.82B (+22.9%). The 2026 number implies Q4 revenue of ~$2.39B, the top of the guidance</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS (adjusted): 2026 $17.35 (+63.1%), 2027 $20.70 (+19.3%) and 2028 $25.32 (+22.3%). Zacks: $16.18 for 2026 and $20.75 for 2027, on its own EPS basis. In the week after the report, 9 analysts raised their 2026 estimate, and none cut it</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate (Koyfin): 32.01%, against a 37.47% mean and a 20.13% -1 standard deviation band. To compare, revenue of the advertising business grew 73.5% per year in 2022-2025</p></li><li><p>Analysts (Koyfin): 6 Strong Buy and 21 Buy ratings out of 33, 6 Hold, no Sell; the average target is $459.79 (+17.5% from $391.22), range $345-625</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: Q4 revenue $2.365-2.395B, which gives more than 50% growth for 2026; FCF of ~70-75% of adjusted EBITDA for the year; over the long term, revenue growth of &#8220;roughly 30% annually&#8221;</p></li></ul><p><strong>What must go right.</strong> The model asks for 20% EPS growth per year for 5 years (the cap of <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">my rules</a>), starting from the 2026 consensus of $17.35. For the first years, the consensus agrees with the model: +19.3% for 2027, and $25.32 for 2028 against $24.98 on my path. By my estimate, it works if revenue grows ~17-18% a year, the EBIT margin stays at ~75-78%, and buybacks reduce the share count ~2% per year. This is well below management&#8217;s 30% target. So <strong>the model doesn&#8217;t need 30%</strong>; it needs gaming to grow ~10-15% and consumer to keep growing fast enough to reach ~20-37% of revenue by 2031. With gaming growing 15%, consumer needs to reach ~20%; with gaming at 10%, ~37%.</p><p><strong>The part I trust least is consumer.</strong> If consumer stays a small business, and gaming slows to ~10%, revenue grows ~12-13%, and EPS ~15% with the buybacks. Then, at 25x, the Base Case falls to $495, still 27% above today&#8217;s price, and the Bear Case to $238. The strong 2026 is already in the starting EPS, and the model never grows faster than 20%, so there is no extra cushion.</p><p><strong>Q4 and Q1 2027 will tell more than any model.</strong> The Q4 report (mid-February) shows the first holiday season with an open self-serve platform; revenue at the top of the guidance ($2.395B) is a pass, since the 2026 consensus already assumes it.</p><p>Then Q1 2027 shows how much consumer spend AppLovin keeps after it, since &#8220;the same advertiser, like-for-like, will have a huge Q4 and follow it up with a weak Q1&#8221;. For Q1 2027, Zacks expects EPS of $4.77 (+34% YoY) and revenue of $2.41B, almost flat vs. $2.39B for Q4, so a flat Q1 is already priced in. Even so, that is +31% YoY, against +44% for Q4 at the top of the guidance, so the estimates already expect growth to slow. Revenue above that number, with consumer still growing triple digits YoY, is a pass. A QoQ decline with no update on the model rollout is a warning. Other checkpoints include Unity&#8217;s Vector growth, any sign that Meta bids on iPhone traffic without an ID, the share count against the SBC, and the class actions.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;0fce1dac-290b-4094-9165-6f40bb7ea63c&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Currently, ten leading companies are trading 21&#8211;62% below their 52-week highs. Each is also below the -1 SD band of their 5Y forward P/E: Fair Isaac, Intuit, Adyen, Rollins, Herm&#232;s, ServiceNow, Zoetis, Booking, Copart, and Intuitive Surgical. Booking and Intuitive Surgical appear to have temporary declines, as their estimates have remained stable over the past 90 days. Zoetis and the mortgage segment of Fair Isaac show signs of more persistent challenges. 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Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br>Price/Fwd Earnings: 19.7x vs 25.0x<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 13.0x vs 11.1x<br>Price/FCF: 26.4x vs 37.5x<br>PEG: 0.62 vs 0.81<br>Forward Earnings Yield: 4.4% (2026 EPS of $17.35; the 19.7x above uses NTM EPS)</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Since mid-2024, the range was ~12-60x: ~12x in mid-2024 and again at the end of October, ~30-60x in 2025. P/S is 13.0x, above its 11.1x mean. On 2027 consensus EPS ($20.70), the P/E is 18.9x.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The 5Y means of APP are distorted in both directions. They include the months after the 2021 IPO (P/E of 50-70x) and the 2022-2023 washout (5-6x), when AppLovin&#8217;s own low-margin games were 63% of its revenue in 2022 and 44% in 2023. P/S is above its mean for the same reason: the old revenue was worth much less per dollar, so a higher P/S today does not mean the stock is expensive. P/B says nothing here, since buybacks keep equity low, and its -1 standard deviation band is negative. I use the forward P/E, P/FCF and the PEG, and I do not use the P/E mean for the Bear Case.</em></p></blockquote><p>On FCF, APP is at 26.4x, about halfway between the 37.5x mean and the 15.5x -1 standard deviation band. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG Ratio, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The growth estimate decreased less than the multiple.</strong> At 32.01%, the 5Y EPS growth estimate is below its 37.47% mean but far above the 20.13% -1 standard deviation band. PEG is 0.62 against a 0.81 mean. In my view, 32% for 5 years is too high to rely on, since it would mean EPS of ~$70 in 2031. That is why my model caps the growth at 20%.</p><p><strong>So what is priced in at $391?</strong> Here, I use today&#8217;s NTM EPS ($19.87), not my model. With the forward multiple unchanged at 19.7x, APP needs ~12% EPS growth per year for a 12% annual return (my model&#8217;s discount rate), less than the 19% consensus expects for 2027.</p><p>If the multiple falls to ~15x in 5 years, it needs ~18%; a return to ~12x as of Oct 30 needs ~24%, more than consensus. So <strong>the price includes a lower multiple, but not a return to the October low</strong>. At the ~19% consensus growth, the multiple can fall to ~14x on today&#8217;s NTM EPS, and the investment still earns 12% a year.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. It shows the NTM EPS consensus times my exit multiples (12x, 25x and 30x) against the APP price. On Oct 30, the price touched the 12x line; today, it is between the 12x and 25x lines. The lines use today&#8217;s NTM EPS, so they are not my fair prices, which use 2031 EPS discounted at 12%. At $238, the 12x line matches my 15%-growth Bear Case only by chance.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cIPU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2dbbe563-3c73-4fea-9c92-953eaf145e1b_2400x1154.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cIPU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2dbbe563-3c73-4fea-9c92-953eaf145e1b_2400x1154.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cIPU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2dbbe563-3c73-4fea-9c92-953eaf145e1b_2400x1154.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1Ib!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54214d81-c033-4228-aef2-9f2f75df30eb_3000x2596.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1Ib!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54214d81-c033-4228-aef2-9f2f75df30eb_3000x2596.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1Ib!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54214d81-c033-4228-aef2-9f2f75df30eb_3000x2596.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1Ib!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54214d81-c033-4228-aef2-9f2f75df30eb_3000x2596.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1Ib!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54214d81-c033-4228-aef2-9f2f75df30eb_3000x2596.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Fair Price (Author&#8217;s estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My model grows EPS for 5 years at the consensus rate. Consensus can be too optimistic, so my model accounts for this by capping future growth at 20%. For AppLovin, the cap matters a lot: the 5Y EPS growth estimate is 32.01%, and AppLovin pays no dividend, so the model uses <strong>20%</strong>, starting from the 2026 consensus of $17.35. This gives EPS of $43.17 in 2031. For 2027, my path ($20.82) is almost the same as the consensus ($20.70).</p><p>The starting EPS matters. Mine is S&amp;P Global&#8217;s adjusted number. Zacks, whose basis matched GAAP EPS in 2025, has $16.18 for 2026, ~7% less. From that base, the fair prices would be $274/$571/$685 and the accumulation zone $192-274; so APP is above the zone on either basis. The gap is a 2026 effect: for 2027, both sources expect ~$20.7.</p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. My exit multiples are 12x, 25x, and 30x. 12x is the multiple of the Oct 30 low, the lowest since AppLovin became a pure advertising company in June 2025; so the Bear Case assumes the market never trusts AppLovin more than it did at the worst point of 2026.</p><p>I do not use the 9.5x -1 standard deviation band because it comes from 2022-2023, when AppLovin was a different company: its own low-margin games were 44-63% of revenue, and net debt was ~$2.1-2.6B. APP also traded near 10x at the start of 2024, when Axon 2.0 was already live, but AppLovin still owned its games then.</p><p>As for the 5Y mean of 25.0x, it is distorted too, so for the Base Case I use PEG 1.25 at the 20% cap, which also gives 25x. 30x, the Bull Case, is the ceiling of my rules (PEG 1.5 at 20%), well below the 40.5x +1 standard deviation band.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 12x): fair price <strong>$294</strong> - MoS price $206<br>Base Case (exit P/E 25x): fair price <strong>$612</strong> - MoS price $429<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price <strong>$735</strong> - MoS price $514</p></blockquote><p>As I see it, the wide gap between the Bear Case and the Base Case is the honest measure of the uncertainty here. The Base Case is a business that keeps its lead and a market that pays a normal multiple for it; the Bear Case is the same growth with the distrust of Oct 30. In dollars, today&#8217;s price is $97 above the Bear Case and $221 below the Base Case, so it is closer to the Bear Case.</p><p>Here, the multiple matters more than anything else. On my model&#8217;s basis (2026 EPS of $17.35 growing at 20%), today&#8217;s price implies an exit P/E of ~16x in 2031. At 25x, it implies EPS growth of only ~10% per year. And if EPS grows only 15% per year, my fair prices fall to $238/$495/$594.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>APP is on <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002">my Watchlist</a>. Watchlist #001 and #002 used a 10x Bear Case multiple, from the -1 standard deviation band of 2022-2023. Here, I use 12x, the level of the Oct 30 low, since that band comes from the years when AppLovin still owned its games, and 25x instead of 26x for the Base Case (PEG 1.25 at the 20% cap). At 10x, the Bear Case fair price would be $245.</em></p><p><em>Worth noting that $391 is below the Base Case MoS price of $429. In my Portfolio and Watchlist issues, that level is the buy zone (the Manifest rule: a 30% discount to the Base Case). Here, in a deep dive, I use the stricter accumulation zone, from the Bear Case MoS price to the Bear Case fair price, so the price also covers the distrust of Oct 30.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nfob!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ad1c5c2-e61f-4dbb-af4c-e5ba308349e5_2400x1146.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nfob!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ad1c5c2-e61f-4dbb-af4c-e5ba308349e5_2400x1146.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP Accumulation Zone (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $391, APP is <strong>36% below the Base Case</strong>; at the same time, it is 33% above the Bear Case fair price. The accumulation zone is <strong>$206-294</strong>, so APP is above it, even though it was inside the zone a week ago.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (11 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $6.76B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $5.92B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $5.01B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $4.88B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (88.78%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (65.89%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (64.44%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (74.08%/210.09%/49.57%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: Yes (69.2% per year, LTM basis, continuing operations)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: Yes (+25.1% in 2027; 32.73% per year on the 3Y forecast)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: No (~2% in 2021 -&gt; ~300% at the peak in 2025 -&gt; 210.09%)</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: ~3% at the start of 2022 -&gt; 74.08%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (misses in Q1-Q3 2022 and Q2 2026)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (5 misses in Q4 2021-Q1 2023)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: No (loss in 2022)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (5 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($8.58B) exceed total liabilities ($5.28B) by 1.6x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: No ($0.34B of net debt)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: Yes (106.6%; 5Y mean: 248.2%)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: Yes (51.6%; 5Y mean: 68.0%)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (EBIT): 28.9x</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 9 of 9 (FY2025; LTM 8 of 9: operating cash flow below net income)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: No (P/S 13.0x vs 11.1x; every mean is distorted)</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: No (P/E 19.9x vs 14.3x for XLC; META, TTD and LFTO are cheaper)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: Yes (narrow)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: Yes (31.65% vs 11.37% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (2 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: Yes (12.8% for directors and officers; Foroughi 9.0%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: Yes (331.3M vs 338.5M)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: No (only sales, grants, and gifts)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (4 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: Yes (+17.5%)</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (32.01%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: Yes, ~$523 (base case: revenue growth 15.7%, below consensus; 9% discount rate, below my 12%); undervalued by ~25%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (4.26%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p>In my view, AppLovin is one of the most profitable businesses in the market, but not one of the safest. It earns a 77.78% EBIT margin with almost no net debt, and in Q3 it grew revenue 55%. At the same time, APP trades at 19.7x forward earnings after a 71% rally in one week, and that rally came almost entirely from the multiple. Consensus expects ~19% EPS growth in 2027; at that pace, the multiple could fall to ~14x, and APP would still earn 12% a year. My fair prices are $294/$612/$735, so APP is 36% below the Base Case but 33% above the $206-294 accumulation zone. The realistic bear case is a consumer business that stays small while Unity and Meta take more of gaming. Then the market can go back to the ~12x of October, and the fair price is ~$238-294. For me, APP is a stock to watch at $391, not one to accumulate: the price already allows for a lower multiple, but not for the October one. What I watch: the Q4 and Q1 2027 reports (consumer spend after the holidays), the full rollout of the new models, Unity&#8217;s Vector, Meta&#8217;s bidding on iPhone traffic, SBC against the buybacks, and the lawsuits.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hxai!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c7960e4-8810-4de4-bc8a-e93821c2ce7c_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hxai!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c7960e4-8810-4de4-bc8a-e93821c2ce7c_2160x2700.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">APP One-Pager (Author&#8217;s summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[10 Great Companies Down 21-62%: Temporary or Broken?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Each is below its usual 5Y P/E range. In 2 cases, the fall looks temporary; in 2, I see real damage; and in the other 6, it's mixed.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/10-great-companies-down</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/10-great-companies-down</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2026 06:01:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/402d2cd6-11c0-425c-a30b-b45669a6a5d7_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> Currently, ten leading companies are trading 21&#8211;62% below their 52-week highs. Each is also below the -1 SD band of their 5Y forward P/E: Fair Isaac, Intuit, Adyen, Rollins, Herm&#232;s, ServiceNow, Zoetis, Booking, Copart, and Intuitive Surgical. Booking and Intuitive Surgical appear to have temporary declines, as their estimates have remained stable over the past 90 days. Zoetis and the mortgage segment of Fair Isaac show signs of more persistent challenges. For the others, the outlook is mixed.</p><h2>Why This List</h2><p>A significant decline in a quality business typically has an underlying cause. The market may anticipate changes not yet reflected in historical data, creating a potential value trap where the stock appears inexpensive but the business fundamentals are deteriorating. Alternatively, the market may be reacting to sentiment while the financials remain stable, which can present an opportunity for long-term investors. In some cases, the business remains strong, but the previous valuation was excessive, resulting in a prolonged period of lower stock prices.</p><p><strong>This list includes only high-quality companies</strong>, each with a consistent record of strong margins; most also deliver high returns on capital. There are three exceptions: ServiceNow&#8217;s ROIC is only 6.55%, but it remains on the list due to its growth and cash flow; Fair Isaac and Zoetis have higher debt levels. I excluded cyclicals at their peak (such as chip equipment and energy) and companies whose earnings have not compounded in recent years. Only companies trading at least ~25% below their 52-week high as of November 3 were included. Since then, Booking, Copart, and Intuitive Surgical have rebounded and are now less than 25% below their 52-week highs.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X524!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d86d677-d022-4330-902e-bc302b0e13ac_2828x1792.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X524!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d86d677-d022-4330-902e-bc302b0e13ac_2828x1792.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X524!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d86d677-d022-4330-902e-bc302b0e13ac_2828x1792.png 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">10 Great Companies, Down 21-62% (Data: Yahoo Finance, Nov 05, 2026; Koyfin, Nov 06, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>My primary metric here is the consensus EPS over the past 90 days</strong>, as a declining share price with stable estimates differs significantly from one accompanied by falling estimates.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Prices are Nov 05, 2026 closes. That day, the <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/11/05/stock-market-selloff-ai-fears.html">S&amp;P 500 fell 4.4%</a> on AI and chip stocks; only ZTS and NOW fell more than 3% from this list. The charts and the multiples are from Koyfin on Nov 06 and use these closes. The revisions are from the Yahoo Finance consensus of Nov 06. Booking, Fair Isaac, and Zoetis reported only days ago, so analysts may still change their numbers. In every valuation chart, the dashed lines are the 5Y mean and &#177;1 SD (the usual range around the mean). There is no fair price model here, only the question of whether the fall is justified.</em></p><p><em>Two things limit the comparisons in this post. The 5Y window starts in late 2021, when many of these stocks had very high multiples, so the mean is high for several names. The -1 SD band is a better reference, but it is not a floor. The forward EPS of FICO, ISRG, and NOW excludes stock-based compensation, while INTU, BKNG, and ZTS include it, so a lower P/E does not always mean a cheaper stock. &#8220;EPS est. 5Y growth&#8221; is the consensus EPS growth for the next 5Y against its own 5Y mean.</em></p></blockquote><h2>1. Fair Isaac (FICO): -62%, a $10 Score Under Attack</h2><p><strong>The business kept growing while the stock fell 62%.</strong> Fair Isaac sells the FICO Score, the credit score that US lenders use for mortgages, cards, and car loans, and also the software that banks use for credit decisions. In the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0000814547/000081454726000037/exhibit991erq42026.htm">Q4 FY2026 report</a> (Nov 04), revenue rose 27% YoY to $657.0M, and B2B Scores revenue grew 39%, mostly because the company charged more per mortgage score, even as the number of new mortgages declined. Over FY2026, non-GAAP EPS increased 44% to $42.99; FCF rose from $739M to $1.03B. At the same time, FICO fell from ~$1,845 in December 2025 to ~$707 on Nov 05, 2026. Even after this fall, FICO returned +78% over 5Y against +71% for VOO (the S&amp;P 500 fund).</p><p><strong>What happened.</strong> On Mar 09, <a href="https://www.experianplc.com/newsroom/press-releases/2026/experian-announces--0-99-pricing-for-vantagescore-4-0-to-acceler">Experian offered VantageScore 4.0</a>, the competitor score from the three credit bureaus, at $0.99 per mortgage score. As a result, FICO fell 24% in 3 days. On Jul 30, it <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/30/stocks-making-the-biggest-moves-midday-meta-msft-mktx-crox.html">fell another 17%</a> after the Q3 report, even with higher guidance. Mortgage growth slowed, Software grew only 2%, and the direct license program (selling scores directly to mortgage resellers, without the credit bureaus) was still waiting for approval. The path was not straight - FICO was 50% below its high by Apr 10, and only 26% below it before that report.</p><p><strong>The second half of the fall is VantageScore in mortgages, in three steps.</strong> In early September, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) <a href="https://www.fhfa.gov/policy/credit-scores">ordered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac</a> (they buy mortgages from lenders, so lenders follow their rules) to let all lenders use VantageScore. FHFA Director Bill Pulte wrote: &#8220;FICO has enjoyed a monopoly. No more.&#8221; As a result, FICO fell 16.7% on Sep 04. On Sep 28, FHFA announced that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will move to <a href="https://capitalmarkets.fanniemae.com/mortgage-backed-securities/simplified-pricing-across-credit-score-models">one pricing grid</a>, so a loan scored with VantageScore is now treated the same as one scored with FICO. Rocket Mortgage <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rocket-mortgage-becomes-first-home-lender-to-use-vantagescore-as-its-preferred-scoring-model-on-all-eligible-loans-302892051.html">will make VantageScore its default</a> for these loans by the end of 2026; TransUnion <a href="https://newsroom.transunion.com/transunion-extends-99-cent-mortgage-pricing-for-vantagescore-40-through-the-end-of-2028-to-support-competition-and-price-stability-in-mortgage-credit-scoring/">will keep it at $0.99 through December 2028</a>, at no extra cost for lenders who buy a FICO score. As a result, FICO fell 26.5% on Sep 29. In late October, Fair Isaac <a href="https://investors.fico.com/news-releases/news-release-details/fico-holds-mortgage-score-pricing-10-lenders-enrolled-preferred/">held its wholesale mortgage price at $10</a>, up from $4.95 in 2025, for a bundle of Classic FICO and FICO 10T, but only for lenders in its new Preferred Program, who buy through resellers that <a href="https://www.housingwire.com/articles/fico-preferred-program-analyst-reaction/">commit to pull FICO on 100% of mortgage applications</a>. FICO increased 39% from Sep 30 to Oct 22, then fell 13.2% on Oct 26, when <a href="https://www.nationalmortgagenews.com/news/fico-seeks-to-fend-off-vantagescore-with-10-bundle">Pulte said more action was coming</a>.</p><p><strong>The Q4 report added a fourth step - no guidance.</strong> On the <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/fico/transcripts/718722-q4-2026/">Q4 call</a>, management said: &#8220;We are not providing fiscal year 2027 guidance at this time.&#8221; The reason is a new way to price mortgage scores, where each customer gets their own deal. CEO Will Lansing went further: &#8220;We&#8217;re not going to share what the prices are.&#8221; In my opinion, this is the most important line of the report. For years, investors could model FICO with one number, the price per mortgage score, but now this number is gone. FICO fell ~6% after hours on Nov 04, to ~$658, but it closed 0.9% higher at $707 on Nov 05, with the S&amp;P 500 down 4.4%.</p><p><strong>Estimates are falling, and now there is no guidance to compare them against.</strong> Over 90 days, the FY2027 consensus EPS decreased 12.9% to $46.28; the FY2028 number decreased 17.4% to $52.77. FY2027 is only ~8% EPS growth on ~5% revenue growth; fewer shares give most of it - if net income stays flat, fewer shares alone give ~$45.8 (my calculation).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0alF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc42c4c67-b5b8-4bdc-b867-52401d284583_1800x1135.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0alF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc42c4c67-b5b8-4bdc-b867-52401d284583_1800x1135.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FICO Valuation, NTM (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Current vs 5Y mean:</strong></p><blockquote><p>Price/Fwd Earnings: 15.3x vs 40.2x (-1 SD: 24.8x)<br>Price/Fwd FCF: 14.6x vs 40.2x<br>PEG: 0.96 vs 2.10 (mean since 2023)<br>ROIC (LTM): 70.75% vs 47.22%</p></blockquote><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>PEG of 0.96 uses the 15.86% 5Y growth estimate. At ~8% of FY2027, it would be ~2, so I would not call FICO cheap on PEG. This EPS also excludes stock-based compensation. GAAP EPS was $36.32, ~19x at $707. ROIC is above its mean, but the driver for it (mortgage price increases) is now capped.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong> mortgages are bigger than they look. They were 58% of Scores&#8217; revenue in Q4, ~37% of total revenue. Scores has a ~90% segment margin against ~28% for Software, so mortgages are roughly half of segment profit (my estimate). Their growth is slowing: +97% in Q3, +72% in Q4, and some volume is moving to home equity lines, which have a lower average price. At ~$960M of annualized mortgage revenue, every 10% of lost price or volume is ~$3.3 in EPS, or ~7% (my calculation). If the average price went back to $4.95, EPS would be ~$30, not $46, and the stock would be at ~24x, not ~15x. This is a stress test, not a forecast.</p><p><strong>The balance sheet is the second problem.</strong> Fair Isaac bought back $3.03B of stock in FY2026 (3x its FCF) at an average of $1,204 per share. The stock is now ~41% below that. A <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/814547/000081454726000030/fico-20260630.htm">$1.5B term loan</a> paid for part of it; debt increased from $3.06B to $5.26B in 1 year against $218M of cash. Net debt is ~4.9 years of FCF (my calculation); the limit in my <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">Manifest</a> is roughly 2 years. That is why FICO did not pass this test in <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002">Watchlist #002</a> (and still does not).</p><p><strong>The debt now limits what the company can do.</strong> Management reports net debt of 3.29x EBITDA; the loan&#8217;s leverage limit falls from 4.5x to 4.0x on Dec 31, 2026, and to 3.5x a year later. The company paused buybacks in Q4 to repay debt; Lansing called it &#8220;a one or two-quarter thing.&#8221; At today&#8217;s net debt, EBITDA would have to fall ~18% to reach 4.0x, and ~6% to reach the 3.5x of Dec 2027 (my calculation; the loan&#8217;s own definition may differ). Management is already cutting costs - on Oct 01, Fair Isaac <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/814547/000119312526415732/d127042d8k.htm">cut ~15% of its positions</a> ($27M charge). Q4 also includes a $65M accrual for the proposed settlement of an antitrust class action about Scores.</p><p><strong>Why would a lender pay $10 when the competitor costs $0.99?</strong> In my view, because the score is a tiny part of mortgage costs, and investors who buy these loans have decades of FICO data. But now the largest lenders have a reason to test the cheaper one. Mortgage volume hasn&#8217;t left yet, and that does not prove much. Volumes fell by a high single digit in Q4, and management blames interest rates: &#8220;we saw no meaningful loss of volume to competition.&#8221; But Fair Isaac is paid per pull, and lenders who compare two scores pull both. The real test comes now - Rocket is about to switch, and <a href="https://pfsi.pennymac.com/news-events/press-releases/news-details/2026/PennyMac-Financial-Services-Inc--Live-with-VantageScore-4-0-Across-All-Three-Production-Channels/default.aspx">Pennymac deployed VantageScore</a> in October. <a href="https://investors.fico.com/news-releases/news-release-details/uwm-reaffirms-commitment-ficor-scores-help-more-consumers">UWM keeps FICO</a> on all credit pulls. FHFA is also <a href="https://www.housingwire.com/articles/fhfa-bi-merge-credit-report-vantagescore-pulte/">&#8220;seriously considering&#8221;</a> a bi-merge (fewer bureau reports per loan), which could mean fewer paid pulls (my inference).</p><p><strong>My opinion: real damage, in the part that makes about half of the profit.</strong> So far, the damage is mostly to pricing power, but the first signs are in the numbers. Scores revenue fell 10% QoQ, from $458.9M to $413.8M, against ~-4% a year ago (my calculation), and the average mortgage price fell QoQ. Management attributes this to lower volumes and mix, not competition. Outside mortgages, the report looks fine - auto originations revenue increased 11%, and cards and personal loans 12%. Software increased 19% to $243.2M, after +2% in Q3. At ~15x forward earnings, FICO looks cheap only if ~$46 of EPS holds, and there is no guidance behind that number. I would not call it a temporary fall, because the cause is structural. But the business is not broken - auto and card scores still grow 11-12%, and lenders still pay for FICO.</p><p><strong>What to watch:</strong> whether FY2027 guidance comes at all, and whether large lenders keep pulling FICO alongside VantageScore.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kXJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1f013ffd-33bd-4f5a-b668-041227498932_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kXJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1f013ffd-33bd-4f5a-b668-041227498932_2160x2700.png 424w, 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Zoetis, despite beating expectations and raising guidance on November 5, declined 7.9% in a weak market and remains the company I trust the least. The remaining six companies present mixed outlooks, each contingent on a specific factor discussed below.</p><h2>2. Booking (BKNG): -23%, Fear of AI Agents</h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Visa: 14% EPS Growth Expected, 11% Needed]]></title><description><![CDATA[At 27.5x, V needs ~11% EPS growth for a 12% return if the multiple holds, and the full 14% if it falls to 24x. The price has room for one disappointment, not two.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 06:01:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CtlK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F119e60b4-fa04-486e-971d-dbb0df5a786b_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CtlK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F119e60b4-fa04-486e-971d-dbb0df5a786b_1200x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Visa: 14% EPS Growth Expected, 11% Needed</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> Visa (V) operates the largest card payment network in the world and earns a small fee on almost every purchase that goes through it, without lending money or taking credit risk. The <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1403161/000140316126000126/q42026earningsrelease.htm">Q4 FY2026 report</a> closed a record year, but Visa guides for slower growth in FY2027; its payments to banks and merchants for using Visa (client incentives) grow faster than revenue. After a 15% gain in October, V trades at 27.5x forward earnings, above its 5Y mean. As I see it, the business is as strong as ever, but the price leaves room for only one disappointment: slower growth or a lower multiple, not both. V is just above my accumulation zone ($285-407), so for me it is a stock to hold, not to add to.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Visa is the first company I bought for <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-004">my portfolio</a>. I bought the first 3 shares on Dec 06, 2021, at $199.10, and since then I have only added to the position, never sold. I am very happy with it.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>The FY2026 report did not change much in the Visa story. The growth was strong, the margin was stable, and Visa returned more cash than it generated. The change is in the stock. In March, V traded at ~22-23x forward earnings, at the low end of its 5Y range. Today, it is at 27.5x, above its mean. In my view, the business still delivers what the consensus expects, and the question is how much of the next 5 years the price already includes.</p><ul><li><p><strong>FY2026 growth was the strongest in over 15 years, and the guidance says it slows.</strong> Net revenue increased 15% (14% in constant dollars, without currency effects), the fastest in more than 15 years without the post-pandemic recovery and acquisitions. In Q4, it was +13%, with payments volume +9%, cross-border volume +14%, and processed transactions +10%. Value-added services, Visa&#8217;s second business, grew 30% to $14B. For FY2027, Visa expects low-double-digit growth for net revenue and &#8220;low double digits to low teens&#8221; for EPS.</p></li><li><p><strong>Consensus is at the upper end of the guidance, and V trades at a full multiple for it.</strong> Consensus EPS for FY2027 is $15.03, +13% against $13.27, and the 5Y EPS growth estimate is 14.01%. V trades at 27.5x forward earnings, so the PEG ratio is 1.96, above its 1.87 mean and above the 1.5 ceiling of <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">my rules</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong>The economics are still the best I know.</strong> The non-GAAP operating margin is 67.5%, ROIC is 44.10% against a 32.77% 5Y mean, and ROE is 63.51%. FCF was $22.06B, only +2% YoY, but Visa paid ~$3.8B in litigation in FY2026 (my estimate) against $1.28B in FY2025. Before these payments, FCF grew ~13%. Visa returned $25.6B in buybacks and dividends, 116% of its FCF.</p></li><li><p><strong>V is above its 5Y mean on every multiple.</strong> The forward P/E is 27.5x against a 26.6x mean and a 24.6x -1 standard deviation band. P/FCF and P/B are above their means too. If the multiple stays at 27.5x, my 12% required return needs ~11% EPS growth per year, the low end of the FY2027 guidance. If V returns to ~24x (its -1 standard deviation band, rounded down), the company needs ~14%, the full consensus.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case is a costly renewal year plus a lower multiple.</strong> In FY2027, ~25% of Visa&#8217;s payments volume comes up for contract renewal, against 20% in FY2026, so incentives will grow faster. Regulation is a constant pressure (merchant settlement, the US Justice Department lawsuit); international transaction revenue grew only 8% in FY2026, while cross-border volume grew 14% in Q4. My model takes the lower multiple into account by using the -1 standard deviation band (24x) as the Bear Case exit multiple, but it keeps the consensus growth. V is 1.5% above my Bear Case fair price of $407, so it is just above the accumulation zone. If EPS grows only ~11% per year, the Bear Case fair price is $357.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Visa&#8217;s fiscal year ends on Sep 30, so FY2026 is October 2025 to September 2026, and FY2027 is the current year. Unless I say otherwise, EPS means non-GAAP diluted class A EPS. It excludes litigation provisions, severance and other special items, and it is the basis of Visa&#8217;s guidance and of the Koyfin consensus. GAAP EPS was $12.32 in FY2026. The price anchor is the Oct 30 close of $413.59.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Jan 26, 2027 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: $769.07B<br>Sector: Financials | Industry: Financial Services<br>Type: Large Blend<br>Short Interest: 1.10%</p></blockquote><p>Visa connects the banks that issue cards to the merchants that accept them. In FY2025, Visa's network handled <strong>$17 trillion of total payments and cash volume</strong> in more than 200 countries and territories, according to the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1403161/000140316125000089/v-20250930.htm">FY2025 10-K</a>. In FY2026, there were 5.2 billion Visa credentials (cards and their digital versions), +6% YoY, accepted at well over 200 million seller locations, and Visa processed 281.3 billion transactions, +9%. As the 10-K says, "Visa is not a financial institution": it does not issue cards, does not lend, and does not set the rates that cardholders pay. So it does not take credit risk. Ryan McInerney has been the CEO since February 2023, and Chris Suh is the CFO. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The business model is a fee on every step of a payment.</strong> Visa earns service revenue on payments volume (with a 1-quarter delay), data processing revenue on every authorization, clearing and settlement, international transaction revenue on cross-border payments and currency conversion, and other revenue from value-added services, licensing and marketing services. From this gross revenue, Visa deducts client incentives, the payments to banks, merchants and acquirers for using Visa. In FY2026, gross revenue was $64.22B, incentives were $18.32B (28.5% of it), and net revenue was $45.90B.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rN3N!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1562daef-32e3-4e23-a63b-3b5de684d552_2520x1430.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Net Revenue by Line, FY2026 (Data: Visa, Oct 27, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The growth now comes from more than card payments.</strong> Visa calls its two newer businesses value-added services (VAS: fraud and risk tools, issuer processing, data, consulting, marketing services) and commercial and money movement solutions (CMS: business payments and Visa Direct, its system for sending money to cards and accounts). In FY2026, VAS revenue grew 30% in constant dollars to $14B, and CMS revenue grew 19%. Together, they are "more than 40% of our total net revenue," as Visa said on the <a href="https://s1.q4cdn.com/050606653/files/doc_financials/2026/q4/V-US-CORRECTED-TRANSCRIPT-Visa-Inc-V-US-Q4-2026-Earnings-Call-27-October-2026-500-ET   -PM.pdf">earnings call</a>. This matters for the thesis, since these businesses grow faster than the card network itself.</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/visa-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p><strong>Cards keep taking share from cash.</strong> In the US, cash was 14% of consumer payments in 2025, against about a third in 2016, according to the Federal Reserve&#8217;s <a href="https://www.frbservices.org/binaries/content/assets/crsocms/news/research/2026-diary-consumer-payments-choice.pdf">2026 Diary of Consumer Payment Choice</a>. Credit and debit cards were ~2/3 of all payments, and the Fed describes cash use as stable after the pandemic drop. Globally, cash was 15% of in-store spending in 2024, against 44% in 2014, <a href="https://www.digitaltransactions.net/cash-use-slips-as-digital-payments-grow-says-worldpay-survey/">according to Worldpay</a>. Visa itself estimates more than $20 trillion of consumer spending a year that still goes through cash, checks and bank transfers. So there is room to grow, but the conversion from cash is now slower in the developed markets.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-sa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F985479b0-a30a-4cb0-8e44-f743a0f309d4_2520x868.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-sa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F985479b0-a30a-4cb0-8e44-f743a0f309d4_2520x868.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-sa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F985479b0-a30a-4cb0-8e44-f743a0f309d4_2520x868.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Cash Share of Payments (Data: Worldpay, Federal Reserve)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The payments pool grows slower than the card networks.</strong> McKinsey&#8217;s 2026 Global Payments Report puts global payments revenue (banks, networks and processors together) at $2.6 trillion in 2025, up only ~3%, and expects ~4% a year to 2030 (<a href="https://paymentsdive.com/news/payments-income-bolsters-banks/832378">Payments Dive&#8217;s summary</a>). At the same time, Visa and Mastercard purchase volume grew 8.9% in the first 9 months of 2025, to $17.1 trillion, according to the <a href="https://nilsonreport.com/articles/visa-and-mastercard-worldwide-thru-3q-2025/">Nilson Report</a>, and Visa&#8217;s net revenue grew 15% in FY2026. In my view, this is the core of both the investment case and the risk. The networks take a growing share of a slowly growing pool, and this is exactly why merchants, regulators and banks push back.</p><p><strong>Visa is the largest network in the world, and in the US, the dominant one.</strong> In 2025, the six global card brands handled 828.1 billion purchase transactions (+7.1%), and Visa had 40.76% of them (<a href="https://nilsonreport.com/articles/global-network-card-results-worldwide-2025/">Nilson</a>). In the US, Visa cards generated $7.03 trillion of purchase volume against $2.96 trillion for Mastercard, so Visa has 70.4% of the two together (<a href="https://nilsonreport.com/articles/mastercard-and-visa-cards-in-the-us-2025/">Nilson</a>). This scale is the moat, and it is also the reason for the US Justice Department lawsuit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T62Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f42e69c-d26a-49a7-8b3f-e9bbba33ced5_2520x740.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T62Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f42e69c-d26a-49a7-8b3f-e9bbba33ced5_2520x740.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T62Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f42e69c-d26a-49a7-8b3f-e9bbba33ced5_2520x740.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">US Card Purchase Volume, 2025 (Data: Nilson Report, Feb 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>New payment rails grow fastest where governments push them.</strong> In Brazil, Pix (the instant payment system of the central bank) was 55.2% of all payments in the first half of 2026, and debit card transactions grew only 0.5% (<a href="https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-pix-55-percent-payments-central-bank-2026/">The Rio Times</a>, on central bank data). In India, UPI <a href="https://fintechbiznews.com/fintech-digital-payment-/upi-txn-volume-value-fell-in-sept26-aeps-imps-volume-too-down">processed</a> 24.07 billion transactions in September, +23% YoY. In the US, Zelle moved more than $1.2 trillion in 2025, +20% (<a href="https://www.zelle.com/press-releases/zelle-posts-20-growth-12-trillion-sent-far-outpacing-consumer-spending-and-cementing">Zelle</a>). At the same time, Mastercard&#8217;s Latin America volume still grew 13.5% in its <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001141391/000114139126000122/ma09302026-exx991xearnings.htm">Q3 2026 report</a>. As I see it, these rails mostly replace cash and debit in their home markets, and Visa answers them with Visa Direct and stablecoin settlement rather than competing for every domestic transfer.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>A payment rail is a payment platform or a payment network that moves money from a payer to a payee.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Regulation is the main market risk, and it moved again in October.</strong> On Oct 26, a US appeals court <a href="http://bankingjournal.aba.com/2026/10/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-the-feds-debit-card-fee-cap/">upheld the ruling</a> that the Federal Reserve set the cap on debit interchange too high, so the Fed has to rewrite it. The interchange goes to the banks, not to Visa, but if banks earn less on debit, they can ask Visa for larger incentives. The <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/BILLS-119s3623is">Credit Card Competition Act</a>, which would require large banks to add a second network to credit cards, was reintroduced in January with Trump&#8217;s support. Its sponsors wanted to attach it to a housing bill, but in March the Senate <a href="https://www.paymentsdive.com/news/ccca-seeks-new-path-to-passage/813789/">passed</a> that bill without it. The merchant settlement that cuts US credit interchange by 10 basis points for 5 years and lets merchants decline some premium cards got <a href="https://www.paymentsdive.com/news/court-approves-visa-mastercard-settlement/822440/">preliminary approval</a> in June and waits for final approval. And in the Justice Department&#8217;s debit lawsuit, filed in 2024, discovery was <a href="https://www.paymentsdive.com/news/visa-delivers-6m-documents-to-doj/829168/">extended</a> to Jan 29, 2027, with a trial likely in 2028. Separately, Capital One <a href="https://www.paymentsjournal.com/after-moving-debit-cards-to-discover-capital-one-turns-to-credit-card-migration/">moved ~25M debit cards</a> <a href="https://www.doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-debit-cards-switching-from-mastercard-to-discover-payment-network/">from Mastercard</a> to its own Discover network, and it is now testing some credit cards there, which moves them off Visa.</p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4A6r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44e8d5-625e-4096-a2ae-248043464dad_2400x1515.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The margins are stable at a level few companies reach.</strong> The LTM net margin is 51.20% (5Y mean: 52.13%), and the EBIT margin is 66.31% (66.98%). Koyfin shows a 97.68% gross margin, but Visa does not report a cost of revenue, so this number says little. On a non-GAAP basis, the operating margin was 67.5% in FY2026, against 67.7% in FY2025. The net and EBIT margins are within ~1 point of their means. The real gap is FCF, 48.05% against 55.65%, and most of it is the litigation payments of FY2026.</p><p><strong>The moat is a two-sided network.</strong> Banks issue Visa cards because more than 200 million seller locations accept them, and merchants accept Visa because billions of people have the cards. A new network has to build both sides at once, which is why global card payments are concentrated in a few networks. The cost of one more transaction on VisaNet is close to zero, so revenue growth can turn into profit with little extra cost. In FY2026, Visa spent the extra on marketing and people, so the margin stayed flat.</p><p><strong>The best evidence is that revenue grows faster than volume.</strong> In Q4, service revenue grew 14%, &#8220;primarily due to pricing&#8221;, on 10% growth in Q3 payments volume, the base it is charged on. Processed transactions grew 10%, and data processing revenue 16%, because of pricing, a higher cross-border mix and value-added services. For FY2027, Visa expects new pricing &#8220;similar in magnitude and timing&#8221; to FY2026. For me, revenue growing faster than volume is the clearest proof that the moat is real.</p><p><strong>The cost of the moat is client incentives.</strong> The pricing power works against merchants, but the banks that choose a network have their own power. Visa pays them to keep their cards on Visa, and in FY2026, incentives were 28.5% of gross revenue, against 28.3% in FY2025. In Q4, they increased 21% YoY to 29.7% of gross revenue. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The returns show the same. ROIC is 44.10% (5Y mean: 32.77%), ROE 63.51% (48.29%), and ROA 19.61% (16.28%), and all three have increased every year since 2022. ROE is high partly because buybacks reduce equity (total equity decreased from $37.91B to $36.11B in FY2026). ROIC and ROA depend on it much less, and they increased too. In my view, Visa has <strong>a wide moat</strong>, and the question for the investment is not the moat but the price of the stock.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, subscribe.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>Value-added services, the second business.</strong> VAS revenue reached $14B in FY2026, &#8220;essentially double our 2023 VAS revenue&#8221;. Its issuing, acceptance, and risk and security services grew more than 20% for the year. In Q4, the 31% growth came from three factors: the underlying business (including marketing services around the FIFA World Cup), pricing, and the <a href="https://investor.visa.com/news/news-details/2026/Visa-Completes-Acquisition-of-Prisma-and-Newpay/default.aspx">Prisma acquisition</a>. For FY2027, Visa expects VAS growth in the &#8220;low to mid-20s&#8221;. In August, it <a href="https://investor.visa.com/news/news-details/2026/Visa-to-Acquire-BioCatch/default.aspx">agreed to buy BioCatch</a>, a fraud detection company that protects 1.8 billion devices for more than 100 large banks, for $2.4B in cash. The deal is expected to close by the end of March 2027. In my view, VAS is the main reason Visa grows faster than payments volume, and it makes Visa more useful to banks, not only to merchants.</p><p><strong>Business payments and Visa Direct.</strong> Commercial payments volume grew 12% in FY2026, faster than consumer payments and the fastest in 8 years without the post-pandemic recovery. Visa Direct processed more than 15 billion transactions, about $1.5 trillion of volume, and its transactions grew 23% in Q4. This is the &#8220;new flows&#8221; part of the strategy: payments between businesses, from businesses to consumers, and between people, which are still mostly made by bank transfer or check.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gDaw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F270579be-428d-40df-9667-434054994431_2520x922.png" width="1456" height="533" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Growth by Business, FY2026 (Data: Visa, Oct 27, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The renewal year.</strong> In FY2027, contracts covering ~25% of Visa's payments volume come up for renewal, against 20% in FY2026, "including renewals with several large clients". This "implies a step-up" in the growth of incentives. Management says it manages "to net revenue growth", and the low-double-digit guidance already includes the renewals. As I see it, this is the key execution risk of FY2027. Long contracts are part of the moat, but this year many of them are repriced at the same time, and the large banks know their bargaining power.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eTWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5d29019-c377-4ce5-b81b-588a82d95cdd_2520x1308.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eTWH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5d29019-c377-4ce5-b81b-588a82d95cdd_2520x1308.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Payments Volume Up for Renewal (Data: Visa, Oct 27, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Stablecoins: join the new rail instead of fighting it.</strong> Visa's stablecoin settlement reached $25B of annualized volume, up 10x YoY, and there are more than 225 stablecoin-linked card programs. McInerney's answer to the stablecoin threat is that Visa is "stablecoin-agnostic" and "blockchain-agnostic". In my view, $25B is still tiny next to $17 trillion of volume, but it shows that Visa wants to be the network on top of new money, not only cards.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UbNA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5989971-8f5e-4be6-ab44-bd4fabf55f91_2520x1442.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UbNA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5989971-8f5e-4be6-ab44-bd4fabf55f91_2520x1442.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Stablecoin Settlement, Annualized Volume (Data: Visa)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Agentic commerce: a long option, not a 2027 driver.</strong> Visa has nearly 50 AI partners live, with Shopify's Shop Pay among the recent ones, and expects the number to double. At the same time, in FY2027 it "all remains very small in the big scheme of the enormous size of our business". I agree, so I do not include anything for it in my model.</p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qGv1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d442cec-c073-4faa-a1c6-3e6f28eaa26e_2400x1518.png" width="2400" height="1518" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The balance sheet is conservative - net debt is 1% of the market cap.</strong> At the end of FY2026, Visa had $14.18B of cash and investment securities and $22.07B of debt, so net debt was $7.89B, ~0.4x of annual FCF. In FY2026, Visa repaid $5.57B of notes and issued $3.0B, a net repayment of $2.57B, and total debt decreased from $25.17B to $22.07B. Debt/Equity is 61.1% (5Y mean: 58.4%), Debt/Capital is 37.93% (36.79%), and funds from operations (FFO) cover interest expense 31.3x (33.6x). Both debt ratios are slightly above their means because equity decreases with the buybacks, not because Visa borrows more.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2chs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffcc0bf91-874c-458c-91f5-8f34ef623585_2400x1515.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2chs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffcc0bf91-874c-458c-91f5-8f34ef623585_2400x1515.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Debt/Equity, Debt/Capital and Interest Coverage, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u27f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff087476d-f42e-4961-9dd6-e2baf9bcac68_2400x1501.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF grew only 2%, and the main reason is litigation, not the business.</strong> FCF was $22.06B in FY2026, against $21.58B in FY2025, and the FCF margin decreased to 48.05% against a 55.65% 5Y mean. Most of the difference is the US interchange litigation. These payments go through operating cash flow. By my estimate (litigation provision minus the change in accrued litigation), Visa paid ~$3.8B in FY2026, ~$3.6B of it from the litigation escrow account to the merchants that settled. In FY2025, it paid $1.28B, according to the 10-K, and the same method gives $1.26B. Before these payments, FCF grew ~13%, close to the growth of non-GAAP net income (+12%). Litigation is not a one-off, though - Visa also paid $594M in FY2024.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KHMX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae80b41-bea1-4eb9-85cb-bccb1d38f85e_2520x1330.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KHMX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae80b41-bea1-4eb9-85cb-bccb1d38f85e_2520x1330.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KHMX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae80b41-bea1-4eb9-85cb-bccb1d38f85e_2520x1330.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V FCF, Reported vs Before Litigation Payments (Data: Visa, author's estimate, Oct 27, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Worth noting that <strong>class A shareholders do not pay most of this cost</strong>. The old US interchange case is paid from a litigation escrow account. Visa funds this account with its own cash, but each deposit reduces the number of class A shares that the class B shares (owned by Visa member banks and similar holders, as the 10-K defines them) will convert into. For class A shareholders, it is the same as a buyback: the cash leaves Visa, and their share count decreases. In FY2026, Visa deposited $1.28B, the last $405M on <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1403161/000140316126000121/v-20260918.htm">September 18</a>, and the ~$3.6B paid to merchants came from this account. In May, Visa <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1403161/000119312526215875/d59695dex991.htm">exchanged</a> most of the old class B shares for new class B-3 and class C shares, so the class B shares that take this cost are now the B-3. This covers only the old interchange case, including the merchants that opted out of its settlement. The Justice Department's debit lawsuit and the US debit class actions are not covered, so any cost there falls on class A shareholders.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r5iN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79225d8d-60d6-44d0-b2a1-2b21ccceeea3_2400x1526.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r5iN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79225d8d-60d6-44d0-b2a1-2b21ccceeea3_2400x1526.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Shares Outstanding and Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Buybacks are the main use of cash.</strong> In FY2026, Visa bought 61M shares for $20.5B at an average of $335, 19% below today's price, and the remaining authorization is $24.4B, or 3.2% of the market cap. The diluted class A share count decreased 3.0% in FY2026 (3.2% in Q4) and 12.8% in 5 years. The LTM buyback yield is 2.66% (5Y mean: 2.74%). Koyfin's share count went up at the end of the chart, but these are Class C shares from the May exchange that convert into Class A when they are sold, not new shares. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Shareholder Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The shareholder yield, which also counts dividends and debt repayment, is 3.66% (5Y mean: 3.44%).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BEbS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F811b84cc-9d31-41e9-aa5c-529e559edda5_2400x1516.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BEbS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F811b84cc-9d31-41e9-aa5c-529e559edda5_2400x1516.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BEbS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F811b84cc-9d31-41e9-aa5c-529e559edda5_2400x1516.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BEbS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F811b84cc-9d31-41e9-aa5c-529e559edda5_2400x1516.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BEbS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F811b84cc-9d31-41e9-aa5c-529e559edda5_2400x1516.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Dividend per Share and Dividend Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The dividend is small but grows fast.</strong> Visa raised its quarterly dividend 16% to $0.78, the 17th increase in a row, and the dividend grew 15.88% per year in the last 5 years. At $414, the yield is 0.75%, and the payout is ~21% of FY2027 consensus EPS. In FY2026, Visa paid $5.11B in dividends.</p><p><strong>In total, Visa returned 116% of its FCF.</strong> Buybacks and dividends were $25.6B against $22.06B of FCF, and Visa also reduced its debt. The difference came from cash, which decreased from $17.16B to $12.94B, and from the escrow account. As I see it, this pace is not repeatable every year, since it used $4.2B of cash, but the policy did not change. Visa intends &#8220;to return excess free cash flow to shareholders through buybacks&#8221;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gSik!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c1471f-9dc3-4875-87a2-2313274252ac_2400x1514.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gSik!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c1471f-9dc3-4875-87a2-2313274252ac_2400x1514.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gSik!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c1471f-9dc3-4875-87a2-2313274252ac_2400x1514.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V SBC and SBC % of Revenues, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Stock-based compensation (SBC) is $928M, 2.02% of revenue, below its 2.23% 5Y mean. Capex is $1.67B, 3.6% of revenue. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Expenses, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The expense growth is the weak point of FY2026.</strong> Non-GAAP operating expenses increased 16%, faster than net revenue (+15%), mostly because of marketing (+37%, partly the FIFA World Cup) and personnel. Visa also booked $563M of severance. For FY2027, Visa expects operating expenses to grow &#8220;modestly below net revenue growth&#8221;, so the margin should be stable or slightly higher.</p><p>As I see it, <strong>Visa&#8217;s capital allocation is simple and consistent</strong>. Visa does few large acquisitions (BioCatch at $2.4B is ~11% of FY2026 FCF), returns almost everything to shareholders, and its buybacks over the last year were made well below today&#8217;s price. The guidance is credible: Visa beat the EPS consensus in each of the last 20 quarters, although in Q4, EPS beat Visa&#8217;s own plan mostly because of a lower tax rate. The weak spot is the litigation, which costs cash every year, and the question for FY2027 is the cost of the renewals.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;c456cfd6-a1fc-4ddd-ac20-d8c266582621&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Netflix (NFLX) has more paid memberships than any other streaming service, and it earns almost all of its revenue from subscriptions and a growing part from ads. The Q3 2026 report was another quarter of double-digit growth. 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The renewals may also give back part of the pricing through incentives. In FY2027, ~25% of the payments volume comes up for renewal, and incentives already grew 21% in Q4. At the same time, the pressure comes from several sides at once: a lower debit cap, the Credit Card Competition Act, the Justice Department lawsuit, the settlement that lets merchants decline premium cards, and Capital One testing its credit cards on its own network. None of them breaks the moat alone, but together they can slow net revenue growth to high single digits. And the stock is priced for the good case. From ~28-31x, V derated twice in the last 5 years, in 2022 and from mid-2025 to March 2026, both times to ~22x. At 22x in FY2032, even the full consensus growth gives a fair price of ~$373, 10% below today&#8217;s price. If EPS growth also slows to ~11%, the pace of the low end of the guidance, the fair price at 22x is ~$327, 21% below.</p><h2>Competitors</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1H5r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff33b093f-3ff2-4229-9f81-b251af158070_2800x2248.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1H5r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff33b093f-3ff2-4229-9f81-b251af158070_2800x2248.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V vs Competitors (Data: S&amp;P Global, Oct 30, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>I compare Visa with 5 companies. Mastercard (MA) has the same model, a global network without credit risk, and is the closest competitor. American Express (AXP) is a network and a card issuer at once, so it has credit risk and rewards costs. PayPal (PYPL) competes for online checkout and money transfers. Fiserv (FISV) and Block (XYZ) are on the merchant side, with acceptance, processing and, for Block, Cash App. Global Payments (GPN) is not in the table, since its numbers after the Worldpay deal are not comparable yet. Discover is now part of Capital One, and its network has no separate stock.</p><p><strong>On valuation, V and MA are the most expensive stocks in the table.</strong> On the same S&amp;P Global data and the Oct 30 close, V trades at 27.5x forward earnings, against 28.7x for MA and 15.0x for XLF, the sector benchmark. The rest of the table is much cheaper: AXP at 16.4x, PYPL at 9.7x, and FISV at 6.8x, after Fiserv&#8217;s revenue fell 4% in Q2. The difference is growth. On the 3Y EPS forecast in the table, Mastercard grows 16.56% per year against 13.70% for Visa, so <strong>MA has the lower PEG, 1.73 against 2.01</strong>.</p><p><strong>Part of this gap is timing.</strong> The 3Y windows are not the same. Mastercard&#8217;s fiscal year is the calendar year, so its 3Y forecast still includes 2026, when its EPS is expected to grow 18%. Visa&#8217;s starts with FY2027. On the next year alone, consensus expects +15% for Mastercard and +13% for Visa. On next year&#8217;s growth, MA&#8217;s PEG is ~1.86 against ~2.08 for V. The gap is smaller, but MA is still cheaper per point of growth.</p><p>The latest quarter is mixed. On net revenue, Mastercard grew slightly faster in its Q3 (+14% against +13% in Visa&#8217;s Q4), but Visa grew faster in value-added services (+31% in constant dollars against +19%) and cross-border volume (+14% against +11%). Mastercard&#8217;s US debit volume grew only 1.4% after Capital One moved its debit cards from Mastercard to Discover, while Visa&#8217;s US debit volume grew 9% in its Q4. <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/4962/000000496226000405/q326exhibit991.htm">AmEx</a> grew revenue 9%, and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1633917/000163391726000086/pypl3q-26earningsrelease.htm">PayPal</a> only 2%.</p><p><strong>On margins, Visa leads; on returns, only Mastercard is ahead.</strong> Visa&#8217;s LTM operating margin is 66.31%, against 60.07% for Mastercard and 4.88-21.41% for the others. The net margin (51.20%) and the FCF margin (48.05%) are the highest in the table too, even with the litigation payments in FY2026 FCF. Mastercard&#8217;s ROA is higher (24.45% against 19.61%), and its Debt/Equity is 355% because buybacks reduced its equity. Visa&#8217;s 61% is the second-lowest after Block.</p><p>In my view, <strong>Mastercard is the next-best alternative</strong>. Mastercard has the same moat and slightly faster expected growth, and MA has a lower PEG at almost the same multiple. Visa&#8217;s advantages are the higher margin, lower leverage, and 70% of the US Visa and Mastercard volume, but the US debit position is also the target of the Justice Department. As I see it, the choice between V and MA is not about quality. V is ~1 turn cheaper on forward earnings, MA is cheaper per point of growth, and neither is cheap. PYPL and FISV are cheap because their revenue barely grows, and AXP has credit risk.</p><h2>Past</h2><p>Q4 FY2026 (ended Sep 30, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Net revenue +13% to $12.14B (+13% in constant dollars), against the $12.09B consensus</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP EPS +17% to $3.48, against the $3.43 consensus; GAAP EPS +22% to $3.19</p></li><li><p>Payments volume +9% and cross-border volume +14% (constant dollars); processed transactions +10% to 74.2 billion</p></li><li><p>Client incentives +21% to $5.12B; non-GAAP operating expenses +12%</p></li><li><p>FCF $6.89B; buybacks $3.98B (11M shares at an average of $369) and dividends $1.26B</p></li><li><p>FY2026: net revenue $45.90B (+15%), non-GAAP EPS $13.27 (+16%), GAAP EPS $12.32 (+21%), FCF $22.06B (+2%), and ROIC 44.10%</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did V barely move after the report?</strong> The day after, V fell 0.3%, and on Oct 29 it gained 2.5%. In my view, there are three reasons:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The stock had already moved.</strong> From Sep 30 to the Oct 27 close, V gained 11.8%, so a good report was already in the price.</p></li><li><p><strong>The beat was small.</strong> EPS was 1.5% above consensus, and EPS was better than Visa expected, primarily due to a &#8220;lower-than-expected tax rate&#8221;. Revenue was 0.4% above consensus.</p></li><li><p><strong>The guidance confirmed the consensus but did not raise it.</strong> Low-double-digit revenue growth and EPS growth in the &#8220;low double digits to low teens&#8221; are in line with the +11% and +13% that consensus now expects, and Visa said that incentives growth will step up in FY2027.</p></li></ul><p><strong>The FY2027 estimates went up, not down.</strong> In the 4 weeks to Nov 02, a period that includes the report, 11 of the 16 analysts in the Zacks consensus raised their FY2027 EPS estimate and 1 cut it. The Zacks consensus is $15.03, the same as on Koyfin. At the same time, the 5Y EPS growth estimate decreased from 14.41% to 14.01%.</p><p>The Oct 29 gain was not about Visa. Mastercard reported that day, and MA gained 4.2%. Over October, MA gained 15.7%, as much as V, and the forward P/E of V increased from ~25x at the end of September to ~28x in mid-October, before the report changed any estimate. <strong>So the October move was a higher multiple for both networks.</strong> On Oct 13, China&#8217;s central bank <a href="https://www.chinadailyhk.com/article/641021">approved</a> Visa&#8217;s application to prepare a domestic card clearing business, but it is only permission to prepare, and V started to rise before it.</p><p><strong>The longer history is steady.</strong> Net revenue increased from $24.1B in FY2021 to $45.9B in FY2026 (13.75% per year), non-GAAP EPS from $5.91 to $13.27 (17.56% per year), and GAAP EPS grew every year. The only weak year for GAAP EPS was FY2025 (+4.8%), because of $2.56B of litigation provisions; non-GAAP EPS grew 14.1% that year. The diluted share count decreased 12.8% in 5 years, so about 3 points a year of EPS growth came from buybacks. FCF grew only 8.72% per year, slower than EPS, partly because of the litigation payments.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w7PR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b87683c-810d-4c94-95b0-396aef544ef7_2400x1516.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w7PR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b87683c-810d-4c94-95b0-396aef544ef7_2400x1516.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w7PR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b87683c-810d-4c94-95b0-396aef544ef7_2400x1516.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The Koyfin chart shows GAAP EPS. The gap between basic ($12.79) and diluted ($12.32) EPS in FY2026 comes from the share classes - diluted EPS counts the class B and C shares as converted into class A.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hKA8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8ade958-04a4-43f8-8d84-2bbaa67acfac_2400x1518.png" width="2400" height="1518" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Price vs NTM EPS Consensus, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The consensus EPS grew every quarter, and the price caught up only now.</strong> The NTM EPS consensus more than doubled from ~$7 at the start of 2022 to $15.03. The price went the same way, but with a long pause - from its June 2025 high of $373 to the March 27 low of $296, V fell 21%, while the NTM EPS consensus increased ~9%. Since the March 27 low, V is up 40%, and ~60% of it was the multiple, from ~22.5x back to 27.5x. Over 2026 as a whole, the return came from EPS, since the multiple is about where it started the year.</p><p>I did not find one verified reason for the derating from mid-2025 to March 2026. It came together with the GENIUS Act on stablecoins (July 2025), Trump&#8217;s call for a 10% cap on card interest rates (January 2026), and his support for the Credit Card Competition Act. None of them changed Visa&#8217;s numbers. The conflict in the Middle East did. Travel stocks <a href="https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2026/03/03/travel-stocks-tumble-as-us-iran-conflict-sparks-worst-disruption-since-pandemic">fell</a> when it escalated in early March, and Visa says FY2027 laps its impact on cross-border travel.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lGUV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac68d55-fd65-4282-a1e2-6f64a57c2727_2400x1516.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lGUV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac68d55-fd65-4282-a1e2-6f64a57c2727_2400x1516.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V vs VOO, Total Return 5Y and CAGR 5Y and 10Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>V beat the S&amp;P 500, but less than its EPS growth.</strong> Over 5 years, V returned 15.18% per year against 12.03% for VOO, and over 10 years 18.12% against 15.06%. At the same time, non-GAAP EPS grew 17.56% per year over 5 years. In late 2021, V traded at ~30x forward earnings, so the 5Y return lost ~2 points a year to the lower multiple, even with today's 27.5x.</p><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png" width="824" height="206" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:206,&quot;width&quot;:824,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:29455,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/223161313?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F390dd639-5008-48e4-9594-76c80d64d804_834x220.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tosF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d6acc05-b23f-4fb3-ae21-d13254e83a77_824x206.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">V Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue (S&amp;P Global): FY2027 $51.02B (+11.2%), FY2028 $56.48B (+10.7%), and FY2029 $62.91B (+11.4%), so ~11% per year</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $15.03 -&gt; $17.13 -&gt; $19.51 (FY2027-FY2029), +13-14% per year; the NTM estimate increased every quarter of 2026</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 14.01%, against a 15.51% 5Y mean and a 13.41% -1 standard deviation band. It was ~12-13.5% from 2024 to mid-2026, ~14.5% in August, and 14.01% after the report. At ~12.5%, my Base Case would be $429. To compare, non-GAAP EPS grew 17.56% per year in FY2021-FY2026</p></li><li><p>Analysts (S&amp;P Global): 36 of 40 have a Buy or Strong Buy rating, 3 Hold, and 1 Strong Sell; average target $441.15 (+6.7% from $413.59), range $330-485</p></li><li><p>Company guidance for FY2027: net revenue growth in the low double digits, with Q2 as the low point; operating expenses growth &#8220;modestly below net revenue growth&#8221;; EPS growth in the &#8220;low double digits to low teens&#8221;; a tax rate of ~19%; Q1 EPS growth at the &#8220;low end of mid-teens&#8221;</p></li></ul><p><strong>What must go right.</strong> My model needs EPS to grow ~14% per year, the consensus. It uses 14.76% because it adds the 0.75% dividend yield, and reaches EPS of $29.92 in FY2032. By my estimate, this is possible if net revenue grows ~11% per year, the operating margin stays at ~67%, and the share count decreases ~2.5-3% per year. So <strong>the consensus does not need margin expansion</strong>, but it needs the FY2027 revenue growth for 5 more years and buybacks at about the FY2026 pace. VAS growing 20%+ and pricing make ~11% realistic.</p><p><strong>FY2027 is harder than this average.</strong> The non-GAAP tax rate increases from 17.9% to ~19%, and non-operating expense from $141M to $250-300M, &#8220;primarily as a result of lower cash balances&#8221;. By my estimate, with 11% revenue growth and expenses growing slightly slower, non-GAAP net income grows only ~9-10% in FY2027, and EPS ~12-13% with the buybacks. This is why the EPS guidance is &#8220;low double digits to low teens&#8221;, and the +13% consensus is at its upper end.</p><p><strong>The buybacks are the tighter part.</strong> At $414, the FCF yield is 2.9%. After the 0.75% dividend, FCF alone buys back ~2.1% of the shares a year. In FY2026, Visa bought back 3%, but it needed 116% of FCF. With 2.1% a year and 11% revenue growth, EPS grows ~13.4%, slightly below the consensus. Before the litigation payments, FCF would buy back ~2.6% a year, enough for ~14%. And most of these payments came from the escrow, where each deposit already reduced the share count like a buyback. So for class A shareholders, the real pace is closer to 2.6%, and what the consensus needs is that the cost outside the escrow stays small - the Justice Department case and the US debit class actions.</p><p><strong>The part I trust least is incentives.</strong> If gross revenue slows to ~10% and incentives grow 3-4 points faster (in FY2026 they grew ~1 point faster than gross revenue, in Q4 ~6 points faster), net revenue growth falls to ~8-9%, and EPS growth to ~10-11%, by my estimate.</p><p><strong>For me, the next two reports are the test.</strong> Q1 FY2027 (late January) shows the first renewals and incentives growth, and Visa says Q2 is the low point of growth. The Zacks consensus already expects Q2 EPS of $3.63, ~10% above the $3.31 of Q2 FY2026, and in the last 4 weeks, 5 analysts cut their Q2 estimate and 2 raised it. Net revenue growth of ~11% with incentives growing less than 20% is a pass. Growth below 10% in Q2 with incentives above 20% is a warning, since then the consensus is too high. The other checkpoints are the pricing in the second half, international transaction revenue against cross-border volume, the Fed&#8217;s new debit cap, the settlement approval, and the Justice Department case.</p><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br>Price/Fwd Earnings: 27.5x vs 26.6x<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 15.1x vs 13.8x<br>Price/FCF: 34.9x vs 27.4x<br>Price/Book: 21.2x vs 14.4x<br>PEG: 1.96 vs 1.87<br>Forward Earnings Yield: 3.6% (FY2027 EPS)</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hbwL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd028522d-da1e-47b7-94ad-a61bbc3be502_2400x1521.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The range of the last 5 years was ~22-32x: the lows were in October 2022 and in March-June 2026, and the highs in early 2022 and in 2025. P/S is 15.1x, just above its +1 standard deviation band (15.0x). The forward earnings yield is 3.6%, and on FY2028 consensus EPS, the P/E is 24.1x.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ze6g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa12c1de6-586b-49a2-a57c-37cd12de26bc_2400x1506.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ze6g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa12c1de6-586b-49a2-a57c-37cd12de26bc_2400x1506.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ze6g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa12c1de6-586b-49a2-a57c-37cd12de26bc_2400x1506.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V P/FCF and P/B, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Two of the multiples look more expensive than they are. P/FCF (34.9x against a 27.4x mean) uses FY2026 FCF after ~$3.8B of litigation payments; on the NTM FCF estimate, it is 27.9x against a 24.5x mean, still above it. P/B (21.2x against 14.4x) increased mostly because buybacks reduce equity, so for Visa it says little about valuation. I use the forward P/E and the PEG for the model.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mxi3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38cab19c-4453-44e6-91fd-419e6e8f29b9_2400x1520.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mxi3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38cab19c-4453-44e6-91fd-419e6e8f29b9_2400x1520.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mxi3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38cab19c-4453-44e6-91fd-419e6e8f29b9_2400x1520.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG Ratio, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The growth estimate decreased more than the multiple.</strong> The 5Y EPS growth estimate is 14.01%, against ~18% in early 2022 and a 15.51% mean. The PEG ratio is 1.96, above its 1.87 mean. So the market pays more per point of growth than on average in the last 5 years, while Visa grows more slowly than it did. To compare, in October 2022 the PEG was ~1.2-1.3, and in March 2026 ~1.7.</p><p><strong>What does $414 already assume?</strong> If the forward multiple stays at 27.5x, V returns its EPS growth plus the 0.75% dividend. For a 12% return per year (the discount rate of my model), Visa then needs ~11% EPS growth per year, the low end of the FY2027 guidance. If the multiple returns to ~24x (the -1 standard deviation band, rounded down) in 5 years, Visa needs ~14.4% growth, about the full consensus. If it falls to ~22x, where it was in October 2022 and in March 2026, it needs ~16.4%, more than the consensus and close to the 17.6% of FY2021-FY2026, which included the post-pandemic recovery. So <strong>the price leaves room for one of the two to disappoint, not for both</strong>, and only a little - the multiple can fall to ~24x, but not to the ~22x of 2022 and March 2026. A return to 22x alone gives ~$373, 10% below today&#8217;s price, even with the consensus growth.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. It shows the consensus forward EPS times my exit multiples (24x, 27x, and 29x) against the V price. At $414, V is above the 27x line ($406) and below the 29x line ($436). The lines use today&#8217;s NTM EPS, so the 24x line ($361) is not my Bear Case fair price ($407), which uses EPS in FY2032 discounted at 12%. In the last 5 years, V was above the 27x line for long periods in early 2022 and from late 2024 to mid-2025, and both times the next 12 months brought a lower multiple.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSKj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6eab8b1c-26c0-4190-8e82-ae3f4fdf4049_2400x1521.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSKj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6eab8b1c-26c0-4190-8e82-ae3f4fdf4049_2400x1521.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jtv2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecea8809-91b3-4e0b-aa51-96d13059e60c_3000x2596.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jtv2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecea8809-91b3-4e0b-aa51-96d13059e60c_3000x2596.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jtv2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecea8809-91b3-4e0b-aa51-96d13059e60c_3000x2596.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jtv2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecea8809-91b3-4e0b-aa51-96d13059e60c_3000x2596.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jtv2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecea8809-91b3-4e0b-aa51-96d13059e60c_3000x2596.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My model grows EPS for 5 years at the consensus rate. Consensus can be too optimistic, and my model takes this into account by capping future growth at 20%. For Visa, the cap does not matter. The 5Y EPS growth estimate is 14.01%, plus a 0.75% dividend yield, so the model uses <strong>14.76%</strong>. The starting point is the FY2027 consensus of $15.03, and in FY2032 it becomes $29.92. In FY2028 and FY2029, my path ($17.25 and $19.79) is 1% above the consensus.</p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 24x, 27x, and 29x. 24x is the -1 standard deviation band (24.6x) rounded down, so the Bear Case assumes that V trades at the low end of its usual 5Y range. It is below today&#8217;s 27.5x, so this case includes some derating. I round the Bear Case down, not to the nearest multiple, because V traded at ~22x twice in the last 5 years. At 25x, the Bear Case would be $424, and V would be inside the zone. 27x is the 5Y mean (26.6x) and 29x the +1 standard deviation band (28.6x), both rounded to the nearest whole multiple; 29x is below the 30x ceiling of my rules. Worth noting that the mean includes 2022, when the growth estimate was ~18%. At the mean PEG of 1.87 and today&#8217;s 14.01%, the multiple is 26.2x, and at 26x the Base Case is $441. So in my view, 27x is slightly generous for today&#8217;s growth, and V is closer to its fair price than the 10% gap suggests.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 24x): fair price <strong>$407</strong> - MoS price $285<br>Base Case (exit P/E 27x): fair price <strong>$458</strong> - MoS price $321<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 29x): fair price <strong>$492</strong> - MoS price $345</p></blockquote><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Portfolio #004 used the same multiples and the same FY2027 EPS, but a 14.41% growth estimate, read from Koyfin on Oct 30. In the export for this analysis (Nov 01, the same Oct 30 close), the estimate is 14.01% after the post-report revisions, so the Base Case is $458, ~$8 lower. In the Portfolio and Watchlist series, I start buying at a 30% discount to my Base Case, so the buy zone is up to $321 for V now. In this analysis, the accumulation zone is the range from the Bear Case MoS price to the Bear Case fair price, $285-407. Both numbers come from the same model.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u2DZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3200413a-7deb-4ff4-adae-fc57e034b8ae_2400x1515.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u2DZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3200413a-7deb-4ff4-adae-fc57e034b8ae_2400x1515.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u2DZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3200413a-7deb-4ff4-adae-fc57e034b8ae_2400x1515.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V Accumulation Zone (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The chart shows the accumulation zone ($285-407), and the Base Case fair price ($458) is the line at the top edge. The Bull Case fair price of $492 is above the scale of the chart.</em></p></blockquote><p>At $414, V is 1.5% above the Bear Case fair price and <strong>10% below the Base Case</strong>. The accumulation zone is <strong>$285-407</strong>, so V is just above it. The result depends most on growth. If EPS grows ~11% per year plus the dividend, at the pace of the low end of the guidance, the fair prices are $357/$401/$431, and today&#8217;s price is slightly above the Base Case. At ~10% EPS growth, the Base Case is $384. If the multiple falls to 22x at the consensus growth, the fair price is $373.</p><p>As I see it, the zone has two parts. From $357 to $407, the price covers a lower multiple (24x) if EPS grows at the consensus rate. Below $357, it also covers slower growth, because the Bear Case at ~11% EPS growth is $357.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (12 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $44.84B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $28.11B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $23.50B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $22.06B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (97.68%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (51.20%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (48.05%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (44.10%/63.51%/19.61%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: No (12.0% per year, FY2023-FY2026)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: No (~11% per year, FY2027-FY2029)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: ~34% at the start of 2022 -&gt; 63.51%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: ~21% at the start of 2022 -&gt; 44.10%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (miss in Q3 FY2024)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: Yes (20 of 20)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: Yes (FY2022-FY2026)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (3 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($94.36B) exceed total liabilities ($58.25B) by 1.6x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: No ($7.89B of net debt)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: No (61.1%; 5Y mean: 58.4%)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: No (37.93%; 5Y mean: 36.79%)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): 31.3x (5Y mean: 33.6x)</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 8 of 9 (FY2026; not passed: higher current ratio)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: No (P/E 27.5x vs 26.6x)</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: No (P/E 27.5x vs 15.0x for XLF; AXP, PYPL, FISV and XYZ are cheaper)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: Yes (wide)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: Yes (15.18% vs 12.03% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (1 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: No (0.125%, including options)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: Yes (Q4: 1,882M vs 1,945M diluted)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: No (only sales)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: No (+6.7%)</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (14.01%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: ~$352 (base case: revenue growth 9.7% - below consensus, 8.8% discount rate); overvalued by ~15%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (1.10%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p>In my view, Visa is one of the best businesses in the market and fits a long-term portfolio, and I hold it in mine. Visa earns a 67.5% non-GAAP operating margin and a 44% ROIC, takes no credit risk, and returned 116% of its FCF to shareholders in FY2026. At the same time, V trades at 27.5x forward earnings, above its 26.6x 5Y mean, with PEG of 1.96, after a 40% rally since March, and ~60% of that rally came from the multiple. Consensus expects ~14% EPS growth per year, and the price needs ~11% if the multiple holds and ~14% if it returns to its -1 standard deviation band. My model gives fair prices of $407/$458/$492, so V is 1.5% above the $285-407 accumulation zone and 10% below the Base Case. The realistic downside is a costly renewal year, more regulatory pressure on interchange and debit, and a multiple back at 22-24x, as in 2022 and in early 2026. With the consensus growth, the fair price is then ~$373-407; if EPS growth also slows to ~11%, it is ~$327-357. For me, this is a stock to hold, not to add to. Only below ~$357 does the price cover both a 24x multiple and EPS growth of ~11%. The things to watch are net revenue growth and incentives in Q1 and Q2 FY2027, the renewals with large clients, the gap between international transaction revenue and cross-border volume, the Fed&#8217;s new debit cap, the final approval of the merchant settlement, and the Justice Department case.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eSLH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52745239-d8db-4c82-9d75-8aa2d91e4b3a_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eSLH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52745239-d8db-4c82-9d75-8aa2d91e4b3a_2160x2700.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">V One-Pager (Author's summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Portfolio #004: October Overview, Back Above All Four Benchmarks]]></title><description><![CDATA[The portfolio gained 1.95% in a month when the S&P 500 lost 0.93%. Netflix is the first watchlist stock to join the portfolio, and Reddit lost 36% in a month.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-004</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-004</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 06:00:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a6c3a268-d54a-4f69-8f24-f35763e73c0c_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> October was a good month: the portfolio gained 1.95%, while the S&amp;P 500 lost 0.93%. YTD, it is at +0.47% against +10.52%, and since December 2021, at +91.46% against +63.74%. Visa and EDV did most of the work, and Reddit lost 36%, most of it after its report. I made my first trades since August: Netflix moved from the watchlist into the portfolio, and I added to Uber. From this issue on, the buy zones <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">follow my Manifest again</a>, and 8 of my 10 stocks are in them.</p><h2>The track record</h2><p>In October, the portfolio gained <strong>1.95%</strong>, while the S&amp;P 500 lost 0.93%. YTD, it is at <strong>+0.47%</strong> against +10.52%. Since December 2021, the portfolio is up <strong>91.46%</strong> against 63.74% for the S&amp;P 500, or 14.16% a year against 10.58%.</p><p>The YTD gap decreased from ~13 to ~10 points in one month. Two positions explain most of October: V gained 15.1% and EDV 6.9%, and together they added ~4 points to the portfolio. RDDT, NVDA, and OPRA took away ~2.5 points.</p><p>The comparison with QQQ changed back. <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-003">In #003</a>, QQQ was ahead since inception. In October, QQQ lost 6.58%, and <strong>the portfolio is again ahead of all four benchmarks</strong>: +91.46% against +79.59% for QQQ, +69.65% for SPYG, and +66.42% for VUG. The Sharpe ratio is 0.83 (0.82 in #003); beta (0.95) and the maximum drawdown (-19%, 123 days) did not change.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7qbA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6e96287-6532-4a4f-a643-776899a5518e_1850x688.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7qbA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6e96287-6532-4a4f-a643-776899a5518e_1850x688.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7qbA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6e96287-6532-4a4f-a643-776899a5518e_1850x688.png 848w, 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I published -4.62% against +0.36% because those numbers were taken at midday on Sep 30. The last half-day was weak for both.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OF5Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ae9bbed-5533-4a62-a15a-1dd60c613a62_963x848.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OF5Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ae9bbed-5533-4a62-a15a-1dd60c613a62_963x848.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OF5Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ae9bbed-5533-4a62-a15a-1dd60c613a62_963x848.png 848w, 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The &#8220;1M&#8221; column in the benchmark table matches the calendar month: +1.95% against -0.93%.</em></p></blockquote>
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I checked what this price assumes, and it is less than what Netflix already delivers.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/netflix-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/netflix-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 06:00:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6WXj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b7e1b6e-181f-4028-9e9e-96e60d695db0_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6WXj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b7e1b6e-181f-4028-9e9e-96e60d695db0_1200x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Netflix: The Stock Fell 50%, Earnings Grew 25%</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> Netflix (NFLX) has more paid memberships than any other streaming service, and it earns almost all of its revenue from subscriptions and a growing part from ads. The <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000290/ex991_q326.htm">Q3 2026 report</a> was another quarter of double-digit growth. At the same time, Netflix cut its ad revenue forecast and guided Q4 below consensus, and NFLX fell again. The stock is down 50% from its June 2025 peak, while LTM EPS without the Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) termination fee is up 25%. As I see it, if the multiple holds, the price assumes Netflix's margin stops growing, while the data shows slower margin growth, not the end of it. NFLX trades inside my accumulation zone, but the thesis is not proven yet; my full fair price math is at the end of this post.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>The Q3 report on Oct 20 matched Netflix&#8217;s own revenue forecast and beat the EPS consensus, and the stock still fell - for the third report in a row. In my <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/netflix-analysis">February analysis</a>, the idea was that Netflix moves from subscriber growth to profit growth. At that time, Netflix&#8217;s deal to buy Warner Bros.&#8217; studios and HBO Max was still pending. Since then, Netflix walked away when Paramount Skydance offered more, received a $2.8B termination fee, lost its co-founder from the board, replaced its content chief, and cut ~1,000 jobs. My idea here is to separate the one-offs in the 2026 numbers from the trend, and to compare the trend with what the price assumes.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth slowed, but it did not stop.</strong> Revenue increased 12% YoY to $12.87B (11% F/X neutral, without currency effects), after 16% in Q1 and 13% in Q2. Operating income increased 37% to $4.46B, but Q3 2025 included a <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528025000404/ex991_q325.htm">~$619M charge</a> for tax assessments in Brazil. Without it, operating income grew ~15%, and the operating margin increased ~1 point to 34.6%. For 2026, Netflix expects revenue of $51.1B (+13%) and a 31.5% operating margin.</p></li><li><p><strong>The 2027 consensus looks slow only because of one payment in 2026.</strong> Consensus EPS for 2026 is $3.57, and ~$0.52 of it is the after-tax termination fee, by my estimate. Against $3.05 without the fee, the 2027 consensus of $3.77 is +24%, not the +6% that the reported numbers show. NFLX trades at 18.1x forward earnings with a 21.28% 5Y EPS growth estimate, PEG of 0.85.</p></li><li><p><strong>The business generates more cash than ever, and Netflix returns all of it.</strong> LTM FCF was $11.38B, of which up to $2.8B is the fee, and the LTM operating margin was 31.3%. ROIC is 27.69% against a 19.44% 5Y mean, and ROE is 53.46%, or ~45% without the fee. In the last 12 months, Netflix spent $12.86B on buybacks, more than its FCF and 4.7% of today&#8217;s market cap. Net debt is $6.91B, 2.5% of the market cap.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple is below the low end of its usual 5Y range.</strong> At 18.1x forward earnings, NFLX trades below its -1 standard deviation band (24.3x), the lower edge of its usual range in the last 5 years. The 32.6x 5Y mean is higher because NFLX traded at ~55-60x in late 2021. NFLX pays no dividend, so if the forward multiple does not change, my 12% required return needs only ~12-13% EPS growth per year. Without one-offs, 2026 EPS is on track for ~15-16% growth ($3.05 against ~$2.64 in 2025, without the fee and the Brazil charge).</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case is a Netflix that grows by price and ads, not by viewing.</strong> Engagement barely grows (view hours +2% in H1 2026), YouTube takes more TV time, US revenue growth slowed from 18% to 11% in 3 quarters, the ad business is behind its own plan, and the operating margin expands only ~1 point this year without one-offs, after ~2.5 points a year in 2020-2025. My model takes this into account by removing the fee from the starting EPS and by using today&#8217;s 18x as the Bear Case exit multiple. Even so, NFLX is 14% below my Bear Case fair price of $78. That case still assumes 20% growth, though. If the margin grows only ~1 point a year, EPS grows ~17%, and my model gives ~$68 at the 18x exit, about today&#8217;s price.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Share and per-share numbers reflect the 10-for-1 stock split of November 2025, and the price anchor is the Oct 22 close of $67.05. Netflix&#8217;s GAAP EPS for 2026 includes the $2.8B termination fee that Paramount Skydance paid on behalf of Warner Bros. Discovery in Q1. Netflix booked it in &#8220;interest and other income&#8221; and does not disclose its after-tax effect on EPS. At the 21% US federal tax rate, it is ~$2.21B, or ~$0.52 per share. The $3.57 consensus includes the fee, since it equals the reported EPS of the first 9 months ($2.90) plus Netflix&#8217;s Q4 forecast ($0.67). Netflix&#8217;s own Q1 forecast points to a similar number. EPS was $1.23 against a $0.76 forecast made before the fee. I use the larger $0.52, so my model starts from $3.05. In cash terms, Netflix raised its 2026 FCF forecast by only $1.5B after the fee, so if anything, my adjustment is too large, not too small. The Koyfin forward multiples use NTM EPS, which no longer includes Q1 2026, so they do not need this adjustment.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Jan 19, 2027 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: $275.3B<br>Sector: Communication Services | Industry: Entertainment<br>Type: Large Blend<br>Short Interest: 2.0%</p></blockquote><p>Netflix was founded in 1997 as a DVD-by-mail service. Today it has <strong>more paid memberships than any other streaming service</strong>: over 325M at the end of 2025 and, as the company says, an audience approaching 1 billion people. Netflix stopped reporting membership numbers regularly in 2025. Ted Sarandos and Greg Peters manage the company as co-CEOs. Co-founder Reed Hastings, who led Netflix as CEO and co-CEO for more than 25 years, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000137/nflx-20260410.htm">did not stand for re-election</a> to the board in June 2026, and Jay Hoag, a director since 1999, <a href="https://www.ewn.co.za/2026/06/06/netflix-names-new-board-chair-as-co-founder-departs">became the chair</a>. A year earlier, Hoag did not get a majority of the votes at the annual meeting. Netflix explains it by his low attendance in 2024 (less than 75% of the board and committee meetings), and the board <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000119312526159286/d20613ddef14a.htm">rejected his resignation</a>. It is a small point, but the new chair starts with weak support from shareholders. Netflix had ~16,000 full-time employees at the end of 2025, according to its <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000034/nflx-20251231.htm">10-K</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e1hq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2ecdfc0-9a0e-417c-8479-1c69c85ba1f4_2398x1162.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e1hq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2ecdfc0-9a0e-417c-8479-1c69c85ba1f4_2398x1162.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The business is one product sold in two ways.</strong> Members pay a monthly subscription, and on the cheapest plan they also see ads. As of Sep 30, 2026, plans cost the equivalent of $1-37 per month, depending on the country and the plan, according to the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000291/nflx-20260930.htm">Q3 10-Q</a>. Advertising is still small (Netflix expects ~$2.7B in 2026, ~5% of revenue), but it is the fastest-growing part, ~80% this year. Subscriptions bring almost all the rest. Netflix also earns some revenue from consumer products and live experiences (Netflix House), but it says this revenue is not material. Netflix sells directly to members, and partners such as TV makers, pay-TV distributors, mobile operators and internet providers promote or bundle the service. In India, for example, Netflix added its first loyalty bundle with Flipkart this year.</p><p><strong>The content comes from three sources.</strong> Netflix produces its own series and films, adds live events (NFL games, MLB, boxing), and licenses series and films from other studios after their first release. Non-English viewing increased from under 10% of all viewing a decade ago to more than a third today. Recently, Netflix signed licensing deals with Disney (DIS), Sony (SONY) and Universal, its largest deal ever with Globo in Brazil, and it integrated the whole TF1 channel into its French service. In March, it also bought InterPositive, a company founded by Ben Affleck that develops AI tools for filmmakers. Cash paid for acquisitions in Q1 was $586M.</p><p><strong>Revenue is spread across four regions, and growth slowed in each of them.</strong> The US and Canada brought 44% of Q3 revenue. F/X neutral growth was 9-15% by region, against 15-20% a year ago. India is the example the company highlighted - a strong local slate increased view hours 24% YoY and revenue ~18% F/X neutral.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PBKD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81814ec8-b456-432e-acfa-79fbc89b1479_2520x1284.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PBKD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81814ec8-b456-432e-acfa-79fbc89b1479_2520x1284.png 424w, 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YouTube had a record 15.8% (13.1% a year earlier). Netflix had 7.7%, against 8.7%. As a result, Netflix&#8217;s share of all streaming time decreased from 18.8% to 15.5% in 1 year, while YouTube&#8217;s increased from 28.2% to 31.9%. August 2025 was a strong base for Netflix, with Wednesday and KPop Demon Hunters at the top of Nielsen&#8217;s streaming list. Still, July shows the same 1-point decline, from 8.8% to 7.8%. Nielsen moves The Gauge to a new method from September, so the next comparable data comes later this year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wLcg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faedcade9-b60c-44f4-a4f9-4808a988ff3f_2520x1952.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wLcg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faedcade9-b60c-44f4-a4f9-4808a988ff3f_2520x1952.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wLcg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faedcade9-b60c-44f4-a4f9-4808a988ff3f_2520x1952.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Share of US TV Time, August 2026 vs August 2025 (Data: Nielsen, Oct 22, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Netflix&#8217;s own engagement data is the weak point.</strong> View hours increased 2% YoY in the second half of 2025, when viewing of branded originals grew 9%, and other viewing declined. In the first half of 2026, view hours increased 2% again, against 1.5% growth in 2025. In <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000211/ex991_q226.htm">July</a>, Netflix also said it will publish its engagement report only once a year, starting in Q1 2027, to keep the focus on revenue and operating profit. Management repeats that engagement is not only quantity but also &#8220;quality and variety&#8221; of viewing. As I see it, reducing the disclosure while the number is weak does not help credibility, even if the reason is real.</p><p><strong>The money grows more slowly than Netflix, so Netflix takes a larger share of it.</strong> In March 2026, Ampere Analysis <a href="https://senalnews.com/en/data/global-streaming-subscription-revenue-tops-150-billion-as-industry-eyes-200-billion-by-2030">estimated</a> global subscription streaming revenue at $157.1B in 2025 (+14%), and $177B with advertising. It expects subscription revenue to pass $200B by 2030, so growth slows from 14% to ~5% a year. To compare, Netflix&#8217;s 2025 revenue of $45.2B (+16%) is ~26% of the market with ads. In 2026, Netflix expects 13% growth, and ~11% without ads, about 2x Ampere&#8217;s expected pace for subscriptions. Netflix gains this share through price and ads, while its share of viewing time decreases.</p><p><strong>Advertising is the growing pool, but ad supply grows faster than demand.</strong> US connected TV (CTV) ad spending grows 11% to $29.3B in 2026, according to the <a href="https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/416513/iab-2026-digital-video-ad-spend-11.html">July report</a> of the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB). At the same time, Disney&#8217;s streaming ad revenue grew only 3% in its June quarter, as ad rates decreased 4% on &#8220;marketplace supply growth&#8221; (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1744489/000174448926000056/fy2026_q3xerxex991.htm">Disney&#8217;s report</a>). YouTube alone sold <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000165204426000066/googexhibit991q22026.htm">$11.1B of ads</a> in Q2 2026 (+13%). So Netflix&#8217;s ~$2.7B is still small, and in my view part of its ad cut reflects a market with more inventory, not only its own product delays. Peters said that &#8220;general demand remains strong&#8221;, so this is my reading of Disney&#8217;s data, not Netflix&#8217;s explanation. The reach is growing. The Netflix ads plan reached more than 250M monthly active viewers in May, as the company said at its <a href="https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-upfront-2026-get-closer">upfront presentation</a>.</p><p><strong>The subscription competitors became fewer and more profitable.</strong> On Oct 06, Skydance (SKYD), formerly Paramount Skydance, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2041610/000110465926113913/tm2626659d7_8k.htm">closed its acquisition</a> of Warner Bros. Discovery, the deal Netflix walked away from. The combined company has <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2041610/000110465926113913/tm2626659d7_ex99-1.htm">more than 200M streaming subscribers</a> and will merge Paramount+ and HBO Max into one service over time. It reports a pro forma content spend of more than $30B a year for the whole company, TV networks included, against Netflix&#8217;s ~$20B. At the same time, it issued $41.4B of secured notes for the deal and targets 3.0x net leverage only by the end of 2029. Disney&#8217;s streaming business earned a 12.9% operating margin in its June quarter, and Peacock was <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1166691/000162828026066783/ex991-9302026.htm">profitable</a> for the second quarter in a row. As I see it, the change works both ways for Netflix. Stronger competitors bid more for content and talent, but they also license more to Netflix. For the thesis, the question is whether Netflix can keep raising prices while its share of viewing time decreases.</p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JVAF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2df2bcb0-5488-487e-8c38-f554d9eb3351_2400x1154.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JVAF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2df2bcb0-5488-487e-8c38-f554d9eb3351_2400x1154.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The margins are at record levels.</strong> The LTM gross margin is 50.68% (5Y mean: 44.0%), the EBIT margin 31.3% (23.75%), the net margin 29.69% (20.0%), and the FCF margin 22.87% (14.75%). The net and FCF margins include the termination fee. Without it, the net margin is 25.24%.</p><p>Let&#8217;s see what produces these margins. <strong>Scale is the main source.</strong> A series costs the same whether 50M or 300M members watch it, so the largest service spreads the same content spend over the largest revenue. Netflix spends ~$20B a year in cash on content (in the first 9 months of 2026, $14.98B against $12.76B of amortization), and content amortization grew only ~9% YoY in that period, while revenue grew 14% and cash spent on content 18.5%. This is the operating leverage that took the operating margin from 18.3% in 2020 to 29.5% in 2025. <strong>No streaming competitor is close.</strong> Netflix&#8217;s operating margin (34.6% in Q3) is ~2.7x Disney&#8217;s streaming margin and more than twice the margins of <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1437107/000143710726000072/wbd2q26earningsrelease08.htm">HBO Max</a>, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0002041610/000204161026000052/ex99_q226.htm">Paramount+</a> and Peacock, which report a looser measure (adjusted EBITDA).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xw2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04484295-0f88-47d6-99f7-7225dd633c00_2520x1494.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Streaming Profitability, Latest Reported Quarter (Data: company reports, Oct 22, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Netflix raises prices without losing members.</strong> It raised prices in 2026 in the US, Mexico, Spain, and other markets, and the member response was &#8220;consistent with prior price changes and our expectations&#8221;. In the US, the ads plan <a href="https://www.foxla.com/news/netflix-raising-prices-again-all-plans-how-much-more-youll-be-paying">increased</a> from $7.99 to $8.99 in March. Churn improved YoY both globally and in the US. According to Antenna, Netflix&#8217;s US churn was 2% in May 2026, after the price increase, against a 4% weighted average for nine premium services (<a href="https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/416128/netflix-monthly-subscriber-churn-still-lowest-at-2.html">MediaPost&#8217;s summary</a>). On the <a href="https://s22.q4cdn.com/959853165/files/content_files/Netflix-Inc-_Earnings-Call_2026-10-20_English.pdf">earnings call</a>, Greg Peters said US members pay the least per hour of viewing among subscription services, and for some competitors the price per hour is more than double. Price increases without higher churn are the most direct evidence of a moat that I see here.</p><p><strong>Its global reach makes Netflix the natural buyer for competitors&#8217; content.</strong> Netflix produces content in more than 50 countries, and local titles travel - non-English viewing is now more than a third of the total. This year&#8217;s licensing deals with Disney, Sony, Universal, Globo and TF1 show it.</p><p><strong>The weak point is viewing time.</strong> Against other subscription services, the moat works. Against YouTube, it does not. YouTube does not fund most of its content upfront (creators make it and share the ad revenue), and it competes for the same TV screen. This is why the moat protects margins and prices, but not engagement.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vXr5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe34386e-f4a1-4272-82aa-bad3b517aa22_2395x1157.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vXr5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe34386e-f4a1-4272-82aa-bad3b517aa22_2395x1157.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vXr5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe34386e-f4a1-4272-82aa-bad3b517aa22_2395x1157.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The returns confirm the economics. ROIC is 27.69% (5Y mean: 19.44%), ROE 53.46% (34.98%), and ROA 17.12% (11.3%). Koyfin&#8217;s ROA is based on operating income, so the fee does not affect it. ROE includes the fee, and without it, LTM ROE is ~45%, by my calculation. In my view, Netflix has <strong>a narrow moat that has become wider against streaming competitors and narrower against free video</strong>. The economics are excellent, but the moat does not yet answer the question of who wins the time on the TV screen.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, subscribe.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>Fewer people, the same content budget.</strong> On Oct 14, Netflix <a href="https://abc30.com/story/netflix-is-laying-off-6-workforce-1000-employees-biggest-round-job-cuts-streaming-giant-years/19938143/">cut ~1,000 jobs</a>, ~6% of its workforce, mostly in product, technology, legal, and human resources. The cost is ~120 basis points (bps) of the Q4 margin. Management did not quantify the savings. The target is visible in the numbers. Technology and development expenses increased 21% YoY in Q3, mostly personnel, against 12% revenue growth. Peters explained the cut as a &#8220;forcing function&#8221; for the whole organization. In my view, this is cost discipline that should show up in the 2027 margin. The cut is mostly outside content, and the content cash spend target (~1.1x amortization) did not change.</p><p><strong>A new content chief for the US slate.</strong> Netflix <a href="https://au.variety.com/2026/film/news/netflix-bela-bajaria-leaving-layoffs-41364/">replaced</a> Chief Content Officer Bela Bajaria with Peter Rice, the former chairman of Walt Disney Television, from Oct 26. Film chief Dan Lin also <a href="https://thewrap.com/creative-content/movies/netflix-film-chief-dan-lin-out/">left</a>. Sarandos was direct about the reason. The US &#8220;is also working. It&#8217;s just not growing as fast as it could or as fast as we&#8217;d like.&#8221; The awards tell the same story - 16 Primetime Emmys in 2026, against 30 in 2025, according to Variety. Sarandos expects Rice to influence projects that are already in production. In my view, content takes years from approval to release, so a new chief changes the 2028 slate more than the 2027 one.</p><p><strong>Ads: behind plan, still growing ~80%.</strong> Netflix now expects ~$2.7B of ad revenue in 2026, against ~$3B before. Peters said the business is &#8220;a bit behind our aggressive target&#8221; because of delays in the rollout of new ad products and in partner integrations. Even so, it still grows &#8220;over 80% this year&#8221;, as he put it. The ad tier comes to 15 new countries in 2027, the first 12 in March. Peters also said that the gap between the ad tier&#8217;s revenue per member and the standard plan&#8217;s is narrowing, but Netflix gives no number for it. The gap is also a cost today. The ads plan was over 60% of sign-ups in ads countries in Q1, and Peters said the gap &#8220;means underrealized revenue growth for us in the near term&#8221;. The 15 new ads countries extend this to more markets in 2027. The cut is small in dollars ($300M, ~0.6% of 2026 revenue), but it affects the fastest-growing revenue line and the credibility of the targets.</p><p><strong>Aggregation instead of acquisition.</strong> In December 2025, Netflix agreed to buy Warner Bros.&#8217; studios and HBO Max for an enterprise value of $82.7B. When Paramount Skydance offered more, Netflix did not raise its bid, and in February it <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000119312526082247/d120618d8k.htm">received the $2.8B termination fee</a>. The new approach is cheaper: license more from competitors and integrate whole services, as with TF1. Peters said that add-on services from partners could follow, with &#8220;nothing to announce today&#8221;. As I see it, this is a better use of capital than the $82.7B deal. It also shows that Netflix wants more third-party content to grow viewing.</p><p><strong>Live events and theaters, selectively.</strong> Live programming is just over 5% of the 2026 content spend and ~1% of view hours, but events like the NFL games on Thanksgiving Eve and Christmas Day bring sign-ups and ad revenue. Netflix will release ~30 films in theaters this year, and a few large family films in 2027, Greta Gerwig&#8217;s Narnia among them, get a traditional 45-day theatrical window. In my view, both are small changes to a streaming-first model, and they test new revenue without much risk.</p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b-cy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5faa385-8ee4-44a1-bf5f-df710dcd5a4c_2400x1160.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b-cy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5faa385-8ee4-44a1-bf5f-df710dcd5a4c_2400x1160.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Net debt is only 2.5% of the market cap.</strong> At the end of Q3, Netflix had $8.22B of cash and short-term investments and $15.13B of debt, so net debt was $6.91B ($7.11B by Netflix's own measure, which adds back issuance costs and hedging adjustments). In July, it <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000119312526312575/d171951d8k.htm">issued $1B of notes</a> to repay the 4.375% notes due in Q4. Debt/Equity is 51.7% (5Y mean: 75.5%), Debt/Capital 34.07% (42.66%), and funds from operations (FFO) cover interest expense 14.4x (8.6x).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SDPe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png" width="2400" height="1165" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c754042c-bc97-4acc-a72e-ed46fcbd2a0e_2400x1165.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1165,&quot;width&quot;:2400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:326616,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/222164568?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93e4e5f4-ef05-4453-8bfd-0bd53e2bea19_2400x1240.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Interest Coverage, Debt/Equity, Debt/Capital and Net Debt, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Worth noting that <strong>content obligations are larger than the debt</strong>. Total streaming content obligations were $25.2B at the end of Q3, ~1.7x the debt, and part of them is not on the balance sheet. They are commitments for future titles, not borrowing, but they are fixed costs that Netflix pays regardless of engagement. In the first 9 months, cash spent on content was 1.17x its amortization, against the ~1.1x that Netflix targets for the full year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPM_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971fafbe-a638-4fee-a159-87e3afbc2ee1_2400x1143.png" width="2400" height="1143" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF increased from -$0.13B in 2021 to $9.46B in 2025</strong>, and to $11.38B over the last 12 months, a 22.87% margin against a 14.75% 5Y mean. For 2026, Netflix expects ~$12.0B, including the fee. In <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000137/ex991_q126.htm">April</a>, the forecast was $12.5B. The cut is mainly a real estate transaction that Netflix expects to close in Q4. 2026 also includes a ~$0.7B deposit in a tax dispute in Brazil, which Netflix expected in 2025 and paid in Q1 2026. So 2025 FCF looks ~$0.7B better than it was, and 2026 ~$0.7B worse.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRb5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06faad3f-dd0e-4ca1-a4a8-364741ab8399_2400x1148.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRb5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06faad3f-dd0e-4ca1-a4a8-364741ab8399_2400x1148.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRb5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06faad3f-dd0e-4ca1-a4a8-364741ab8399_2400x1148.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Shares Outstanding and Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The buybacks are now the main use of cash.</strong> Netflix paused them during the Warner Bros. deal and restarted them after it walked away. In the first 9 months of 2026, it bought 130.3M shares for $10.78B (3.2% of the shares outstanding) at an average of ~$83. The price paid decreased each quarter: ~$94 in Q1, ~$89 in Q2, and ~$75 in Q3. In April, the board <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000139/nflx-20260422.htm">authorized another $25B</a>, and $22.3B is still available, 8.1% of the market cap. The diluted share count decreased 3.3% YoY, and the LTM buyback yield is 4.74%, against a 1.35% 5Y mean. Netflix pays no dividend.</p><p>Over the last 12 months, <strong>buybacks of $12.86B were 113% of FCF</strong>, and Netflix financed the difference with cash. Cash decreased from $12.26B at the end of March to $8.19B. In my view, this is fine at today&#8217;s leverage, but the pace cannot continue without more debt. At ~$11-12B of yearly FCF without the fee and the deposit, the sustainable buyback is ~4% of today&#8217;s market cap per year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1gT-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8ea92fb-3066-4500-91e0-c71a8fc2ad30_2400x1152.png" width="2400" height="1152" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Shareholder Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The shareholder yield, which also counts debt, is 4.3% (5Y mean: 1.53%). It is below the buyback yield, mostly because the $1B of July notes counts as new debt.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!02zu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f287771-7cc4-42af-9901-80dc0b0ccf3e_2400x1159.png" width="2400" height="1159" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX SBC and SBC % of Revenues, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Stock-based compensation (SBC) is low, $540M over the last 12 months, or 1.09% of revenue, in line with its 1.11% 5Y mean. In the first 9 months of 2026, it increased 73% YoY, though, so it is a number to watch. Capex is small too, $933M over the last 12 months, or 1.9% of revenue, and it increased 55% in the first 9 months of 2026. Content is the real investment, and it goes through operating cash flow.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eFSN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd34588eb-ebff-4f80-b5aa-828bbe172e97_2400x1151.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eFSN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd34588eb-ebff-4f80-b5aa-828bbe172e97_2400x1151.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eFSN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd34588eb-ebff-4f80-b5aa-828bbe172e97_2400x1151.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Expenses, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Technology and development is now the largest operating expense after content, $3.89B over the last 12 months (Koyfin shows it as R&amp;D), against $3.62B for marketing and $2.14B for general and administrative costs. This is the line the October layoffs target.</p><p>In my view, <strong>the capital allocation in 2026 was disciplined on M&amp;A, but the buybacks have not paid off yet</strong>. Netflix did not overpay for Warner Bros., collected $2.8B for the attempt, and kept leverage low. At the same time, the shares it bought this year at an average of ~$83 are worth ~$2.0B less at $67, and part of the money came from cash, not FCF. The guidance is credible - in each of the last 4 quarters, revenue matched or beat Netflix&#8217;s own forecast. The ad target is the exception. The question for 2027 is whether the buybacks continue at ~$67, where each dollar buys ~40% more shares than in Q1.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;b2f232d8-f28e-47ad-b76e-1da694d89200&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Long Treasuries just went through the worst period in the data: 2022 was the worst year for the 10Y Treasury since 1928, and the long-term Treasury fund VUSTX fell 46% from 2020 to 2023, the most since its start in 1986. EDV, the long-bond fund I hold, is ~58% below its March 2020 peak (distributions included). In September, the Fed raised rates for the first time since 2023, and in early October, the 10Y yield reached its highest level since 2002. I hold EDV for four reasons: rate cuts, a lower portfolio beta, protection when stocks fall, and a recession hedge. History supports only the last one, and only with a condition: in the 15 down years for US stocks since 1928 with inflation below 3%, Treasuries rose in 13, while in the 11 down years with higher inflation, they lost to inflation in 9. At the same time, the price is very different from 2020: the 30Y real yield is 3.16%, while before 2026, it was never above 2.75% since the Treasury started publishing it in 2010. In my view, long bonds have a place in my portfolio as a recession hedge with a good starting yield, not as a bet on Fed cuts, and the real question is the size of the position.&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Long Bonds at 5.4%: Why I Hold EDV, and What It Costs Me&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-20T05:02:07.860Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!civF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddcec870-9a68-4cf8-9fbe-2db421d4a042_1200x630.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/long-bonds-edv&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:220336440,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:5,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>Scale no streaming competitor matches.</strong> Over 325M paid memberships, ~$51B of revenue in 2026, and a ~$20B content budget spread across ~190 countries. The LTM operating margin is 31.3%.</p></li><li><p><strong>Pricing power with lower churn.</strong> The 2026 price increases in the US, Mexico, Spain, and other markets went as Netflix expected, and churn improved YoY globally and in the US.</p></li><li><p><strong>FCF that pays for large buybacks.</strong> LTM FCF of $11.38B, $12.86B of buybacks in 12 months, and net debt of only 2.5% of the market cap.</p></li><li><p><strong>Local content that travels.</strong> More than a third of viewing is non-English. In India, a strong slate increased view hours 24% and revenue ~18% F/X neutral, with the largest quarter of paid net additions there ever.</p></li><li><p><strong>Ads as a second growth line.</strong> ~$2.7B in 2026 (~80% growth), 15 new ad countries in 2027, and, as management says, a narrowing gap between the revenue per member of the ad tier and of the standard plan.</p></li></ul><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>Engagement barely grows.</strong> View hours increased 2% in H2 2025 and 2% in H1 2026. From 2027, Netflix will report them only once a year.</p></li><li><p><strong>US growth is now mostly price.</strong> Revenue in the US and Canada grew 18% in Q4 2025, then 14%, 10%, and 11% in Q3 2026. Q3 was the first full quarter of the March price increase (+8-12.5% by plan), so most of the 11% is price, by my estimate. It is the largest region (44% of revenue) and the most penetrated one.</p></li><li><p><strong>The ad business misses its own targets.</strong> The 2026 forecast decreased from ~$3B to ~$2.7B, and management explains it by delays in its own product rollout.</p></li><li><p><strong>Leadership turnover.</strong> The co-founder left the board, the content chief and the film chief were replaced, and ~1,000 employees were let go, all within 6 months.</p></li><li><p><strong>The margin expansion slowed.</strong> Without one-offs, the 2026 operating margin increases ~0.9 points, against ~2.5 points a year in 2020-2025. Live programming takes just over 5% of the content spend for ~1% of view hours.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong> Netflix now grows mostly by price, ads, and new members outside the US, not by more viewing. In the US, the March price increase explains most of the 11% growth in Q3. If view hours stay flat, every price increase has to be justified by better content, and the US slate is exactly what management wants to fix. YouTube competes for the same screen with content it does not fund upfront. And the 2027 consensus (+24% EPS without the fee) needs the margin expansion to return to ~2 points or more, while the content that will be amortized in 2027 is already growing faster than revenue. If it stays at ~1 point a year, EPS grows ~17% a year, not 20%.</p><h2>Competitors</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8paG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7b91463-9325-47de-a118-5878c6935fc4_2800x2360.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8paG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7b91463-9325-47de-a118-5878c6935fc4_2800x2360.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8paG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7b91463-9325-47de-a118-5878c6935fc4_2800x2360.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX vs Competitors (Data: S&amp;P Global, Oct 22, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>I compare Netflix with <strong>5 companies</strong>. Disney (DIS) has the closest streaming business (Disney+ and Hulu) plus parks and TV networks. Skydance (SKYD) owns Paramount+ and, since Oct 06, HBO Max. Comcast (CMCSA) owns Peacock. Spotify (SPOT) is the other large subscription platform that grows through price and ads. Roku (ROKU) sells TV streaming platforms and CTV advertising, so it competes with Netflix for the same ad budgets. YouTube is the main competitor for time, but Alphabet (GOOGL) is valued for search and cloud, so it is not in the table.</p><p><strong>NFLX is not the cheapest stock here, but it is the cheapest for its growth.</strong> On the same S&amp;P Global data and the Oct 22 close, NFLX trades at 18.7x forward earnings, above DIS, CMCSA, and XLC (14.9x), the sector benchmark, and far below SPOT (36.4x) and ROKU. The SKYD P/E is not meaningful, since Skydance has almost no forward EPS around the WBD merger. Growth explains most of the gap. Consensus expects 21.7% EPS growth per year for Netflix over the next 3 years, almost twice Disney&#8217;s rate, while Comcast&#8217;s EPS is expected to decline. Only Spotify and Roku, from a low base, are expected to grow faster. As a result, the PEG ratio is 0.86 for NFLX, against 1.24 for DIS and 1.55 for SPOT. Revenue is a different picture. Netflix&#8217;s 3Y revenue forecast (11.58% per year) is below Spotify&#8217;s and Roku&#8217;s, so more of its EPS growth has to come from the margin.</p><p><strong>On margins and returns, Netflix leads every competitor.</strong> The LTM net margin is 29.69% (25.24% without the fee), against 18.43% for Spotify and 7-9% for Roku, Disney and Comcast. Netflix also has the highest EBITDA margin (32.08%) and ROA (17.12%) of the 6. Its FCF margin (22.87%) is the highest too, but it includes the fee, and without it, it is 17-20%, close to Spotify&#8217;s 18.04%. Only Comcast has a higher gross margin, but its EBITDA margin (27.27%) is lower. Debt/Equity of 60% (with leases) is higher than at Disney, Spotify and Roku, and lower than at Comcast (94%) and Skydance (126%). In streaming itself, the gap is clear from the companies&#8217; own reports: Netflix&#8217;s 34.6% operating margin in Q3 against 12.9% for Disney&#8217;s streaming business and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1639920/000114036126040435/ef20084028_ex99-1.htm">13.5% for Spotify</a>, while HBO Max, Paramount+, and Peacock report 14.5-16.6% on adjusted EBITDA.</p><p>In my view, <strong>Spotify is the next-best alternative</strong>. It is the only company here with similar expected growth, the same model (subscriptions plus an ad tier), and almost no debt (Debt/Equity 6%). At the same time, SPOT trades at ~2x the NFLX multiple (36.4x against 18.7x), and Netflix has higher margins and returns. DIS and CMCSA are cheaper, but Disney and Comcast are expected to grow EPS at about half the Netflix rate or less, and most of their profit comes from parks, TV networks, and broadband, not from streaming. As I see it, NFLX is the better choice of the two growth stocks at today&#8217;s prices. The discount reflects, in my view, the slower growth of Netflix&#8217;s viewing time, not weaker economics.</p><h2>Past</h2><p>Q3 2026 (ended Sep 30, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Revenue +12% to $12.87B (+11% F/X neutral), in line with consensus and with Netflix&#8217;s own forecast</p></li><li><p>Operating income +37% to $4.46B, and the operating margin 34.6% against 28.2%; without the Brazil tax charge in Q3 2025, +15% and +1.0 point</p></li><li><p>Net income +44% to $3.66B; diluted EPS +49% to $0.87, against the <a href="https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/ap-top-news/2026/10/20/netflix-posts-higher-q3-profit-but-revenue-growth-worries-pull-shares-lower">$0.82 consensus</a></p></li><li><p>Ad revenue +$256M YoY; FCF +8% to $2.88B</p></li><li><p>63.9M shares repurchased for $4.8B, the largest quarter of buybacks in Netflix&#8217;s history</p></li><li><p>LTM: revenue $49.73B (+14.65%), net income $14.77B ($12.55B without the fee), FCF $11.38B, and ROIC 27.69%</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did NFLX fall after the report?</strong> In my order of importance:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The ad forecast.</strong> ~$2.7B instead of ~$3B for 2026. It is the largest miss against Netflix&#8217;s own plan, and it is the part the market pays for as future growth. Seaport Research cut its target over &#8220;delayed gratification&#8221; on ads (<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/industry-news/business/netflix-q3-2026-earnings-stock-reaction/">TheWrap&#8217;s summary</a>).</p></li><li><p><strong>The Q4 guidance.</strong> Revenue of $13.44B (+11.5%) against ~$13.5B expected, and EPS of $0.67, 8% below the S&amp;P Global consensus of $0.73, partly because of the layoff costs. The 2026 revenue forecast of $51.1B is 0.2% below the midpoint of the earlier range.</p></li><li><p><strong>Engagement.</strong> There was no new view hours number, and management said it is &#8220;not satisfied&#8221; with view hour growth.</p></li></ul><p><strong>At the same time, the quarter itself was solid.</strong> EPS beat consensus by 6%, revenue was in line, churn improved, and the full-year margin target held, including the layoff costs. Most analysts kept their ratings and cut their targets. The report reduced 2026 ad revenue by ~$300M (~0.6% of revenue) and the 2027 EPS consensus by 1-2%, while the stock lost ~5% of its value.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LIRA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f9dfbad-d79c-4dda-a3e3-011f80d535ac_2520x1348.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LIRA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f9dfbad-d79c-4dda-a3e3-011f80d535ac_2520x1348.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Operating Margin, Reported vs Excl. One-Offs (Data: Netflix 10-K and shareholder letters, Oct 20, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The table explains the +37%. For the full year, Netflix&#8217;s guidance gives <strong>~0.9 points of margin expansion without one-offs</strong>, against the 2.0 points that the reported numbers show.</p><p><strong>It was the third time this year.</strong> After the Q1 report, NFLX fell 9.7%, as the Q2 guidance <a href="https://www.xtb.com/en/market-analysis/netflix-sinks-9-after-q1-earnings-report">was below expectations</a> and Reed Hastings announced his exit from the board. After the Q2 report, it fell 7.3%, as the <a href="https://www.outlookbusiness.com/corporate/netflix-q2-earnings-stock-drops-guidance-miss-viewing-hours">Q3 guidance</a> was below expectations and Netflix moved its engagement report to once a year. Each time, revenue matched or beat Netflix&#8217;s own forecast, and each time, the outlook disappointed. Without the fee, Q1 EPS was ~$0.71, below the $0.76 consensus. Since the April 16 close, NFLX is down 38%. To compare, on Feb 27, after Netflix walked away from Warner Bros., NFLX gained 13.8%.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bpvl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e86a36-0139-4649-90c6-42c62405722d_2520x1732.png" width="1456" height="1001" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX: My February Analysis vs Today (Data: Netflix, Long-Term Pick, Yahoo Finance, Oct 22, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Has Netflix done what I bet on in February?</strong> Mostly yes. Revenue and the operating margin target are where Netflix <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065280/000106528026000033/ex991_q425.htm">guided in January</a>. FCF is higher only because of the fee. Netflix raised the forecast by $1.5B in April, &#8220;due primarily to the after-tax impact&#8221; of the fee, and cut it by $0.5B in October for a real estate transaction. Without both, it is ~$11B, as in January. The ad business missed, and the margin expansion behind the 31.5% target is smaller than it looks. The stock went the other way. It fell 12.8%, while the S&amp;P 500 (VOO) gained 13.0%.</p><p><strong>The longer history is strong.</strong> Revenue increased from $25.0B in 2020 to $45.2B in 2025 (12.6% per year), the operating margin from 18.3% to 29.5%, and EPS from $0.61 to $2.53 (33% per year). EPS decreased only once in 5 years, by 11.5% in 2022. LTM EPS without the fee is $2.93 (the $3.45 on the Koyfin chart includes the fee), 2.6x the $1.12 of 2021.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkBx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F188d1472-2ba2-4d57-9f1f-0eed2b09c721_2400x1149.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkBx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F188d1472-2ba2-4d57-9f1f-0eed2b09c721_2400x1149.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkBx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F188d1472-2ba2-4d57-9f1f-0eed2b09c721_2400x1149.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Since the June 2025 peak, <strong>LTM EPS without the fee increased 25%</strong> (from $2.35 to $2.93), and the consensus for the next 12 months reached $3.59, while NFLX fell 50%.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Price vs NTM EPS Consensus, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At the same time, <strong>over 5 years, the stock barely moved</strong>. NFLX returned 1.87% per year, against 13.63% for VOO. Over 10 years, it is still ahead, with 20.98% per year against 15.22%. EPS increased 2.6x, while the price is where it was in October 2021, so the whole 5Y difference is the multiple.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnPM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69261764-ae2b-4fe1-abfd-14a0190de3e6_2398x1162.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnPM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69261764-ae2b-4fe1-abfd-14a0190de3e6_2398x1162.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnPM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69261764-ae2b-4fe1-abfd-14a0190de3e6_2398x1162.png 848w, 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class="image-caption">NFLX Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue (S&amp;P Global): 2026 $51.22B (+13.4%) and 2027 $56.96B (+11.2%) - the estimates already expect ~11% growth after 2026</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $3.57 -&gt; $3.77 -&gt; $4.50 (2026-2028); without the fee, 2026 is $3.05, so 2027 is +24% and 2028 is +19%. The direction is down.</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 21.28%, against a 25.18% 5Y mean and just above its -1 standard deviation band (20.89%); to compare, GAAP EPS grew 33% per year in 2020-2025, and ~15-16% in 2026 without one-offs, by my calculation</p></li><li><p>Analysts (S&amp;P Global): 35 of 52 have a Buy or Strong Buy rating, 15 Hold, and 2 Strong Sell; average target $91.39 (+36% from $67.05), range $57-126</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: 2026 revenue $51.1B, operating margin 31.5%, FCF ~$12.0B, and cash content spend ~1.1x amortization; Q4 revenue $13.44B, EPS $0.67, operating margin 26.0%. The 2027 guidance comes in January. CFO Spence Neumann repeated the objectives: &#8220;sustain double-digit revenue growth&#8221;, expand margins, and increase FCF.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What must go right.</strong> My model needs EPS of $7.59 in 2031, 20% growth per year from $3.05. By my estimate, this is possible if revenue grows ~10% per year to ~$82B, the diluted share count decreases ~2.5% per year, and the operating margin increases from 31.5% to ~41%. So <strong>the margin has to grow ~2 points per year</strong>, slightly less than the ~2.5 points per year of 2020-2025 without one-offs. Most of it has to come from content amortization growing slower than revenue, and this is the part I trust least for 2027. In the first 9 months, cash spent on content increased 18.5% YoY, and content in production increased 18% since December, to $10.9B, after a flat 2025. Netflix amortizes over 90% of a title within 4 years after release, so this spending reaches the income statement in 2027-2028.</p><p><strong>For me, the January guidance is the test.</strong> If the margin grows only ~1 point a year, to ~36.5% in 2031, EPS grows ~17% per year, and my model gives ~$68 at the 18x exit, about today&#8217;s price. If it stays flat at 31.5%, EPS grows ~13.5%, and the model gives ~$59. So a 2027 margin guide ~2 points above 2026 without one-offs is a pass, ~1 point is a warning, and no expansion breaks the thesis, especially if US growth slows once the March price increase is in both years, from Q2 2027. The other checkpoints are content amortization in the same guidance, the next US price increase and its effect on churn, the ad launches in March 2027, and the first annual engagement report.</p><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br>Price/Fwd Earnings: 18.1x vs 32.6x<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 4.8x vs 6.6x<br>Price/FCF: 23.5x vs 57.1x<br>Price/Book: 9.2x vs 12.1x<br>PEG: 0.85 vs 1.30<br>Forward Earnings Yield: 5.5% (NTM EPS)</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SzZi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24fb0c1a-a7e7-4999-8316-1f88c8b76506_2400x1155.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX P/Fwd E and P/Fwd S, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>On earnings, NFLX trades below its -1 standard deviation band.</strong> The forward P/E is 18.1x against a 24.3x band and a 32.6x mean. On 2027 consensus EPS, the P/E is 17.8x, a 5.6% earnings yield. The other multiples are low too, but not as extreme. P/S is 4.8x, between its mean (6.6x) and its -1 standard deviation band (4.2x); P/FCF is 23.5x against a 20.5x band, and P/B is 9.2x against a 12.1x mean. The FCF yield is 4.4% on Netflix&#8217;s 2026 forecast, which includes the fee, and ~4.0-4.3% on ~$11-12B without the fee and the Brazil deposit. To compare, on S&amp;P Global data and the Oct 22 close, the competitors with meaningful earnings trade at 6.6-51.1x forward earnings, and XLC at 14.9x.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>I exported the Koyfin data on Oct 23, before the US market opened, so its valuation charts end on the Oct 21 close of $65.04. At the $67.05 anchor, the forward P/E is 18.7x and the PEG 0.88. The Bear Case multiple is 18x either way, so the fair prices do not change. The 5Y window starts in October 2021, when NFLX traded at ~55-60x forward earnings, so the 32.6x mean is inflated by a period when Netflix was valued as a subscriber growth story. I do not use it as the Base Case. The P/FCF mean (57.1x) is distorted too, since FCF was close to zero in 2021-2022. Also, the reported 2026 P/E (18.8x on $3.57) looks lower than it is, since the fee is part of that EPS. Without the fee, NFLX trades at 22.0x 2026 EPS.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vyq4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b977566-6f63-4198-a6fe-e13871396b43_2400x1151.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vyq4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b977566-6f63-4198-a6fe-e13871396b43_2400x1151.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vyq4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b977566-6f63-4198-a6fe-e13871396b43_2400x1151.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG Ratio, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The multiple fell more than the growth estimate.</strong> The 5Y EPS growth estimate decreased to 21.28%, against a 25.18% mean and close to its -1 standard deviation band (20.89%). The PEG ratio decreased more, to 0.85, against a 1.30 mean and below its -1 standard deviation band (1.03). Even at the mean growth estimate, today&#8217;s P/E would be a PEG of ~0.72.</p><p><strong>What does $67 already assume?</strong> NFLX pays no dividend, so if its forward multiple does not change, the stock returns its EPS growth. At ~18-19x, my 12% required return needs ~12-13% EPS growth per year. If the multiple falls to 15x, as in mid-2022, Netflix needs ~17%. If it recovers to 24x, ~6-7% is enough. So <strong>the price assumes less growth than Netflix delivers this year</strong> without one-offs (~15%), and much less than the ~21% consensus. My model is stricter. It starts from 2026 EPS without the fee, where NFLX is at 22x, and exits at 18x, so its Bear Case needs ~16-17% growth to reach $67.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. It shows the consensus forward EPS times my exit multiples (18x, 24x, and 30x) against the NFLX price. At $67, NFLX is just above the 18x line and 22% below the 24x line. The last time it was this close to 18x was in mid-2022.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWDx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87922e2f-505c-48f4-aad3-4daa5a4eb446_2395x1160.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWDx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87922e2f-505c-48f4-aad3-4daa5a4eb446_2395x1160.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FWDx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F87922e2f-505c-48f4-aad3-4daa5a4eb446_2395x1160.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fRAs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f8beae2-5b8e-4c83-ac34-2929491ae7de_3000x2712.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My model grows EPS for 5 years at the consensus rate. Consensus can be too optimistic, and my model takes this into account by capping future growth at 20%. For Netflix, the cap matters. The 5Y estimate is 21.28%, and there is no dividend yield to add to it, so the model uses <strong>20%</strong>. The starting point is $3.05 (2026 EPS without the fee), and in 2031 it becomes $7.59. In 2027 and 2028, my path ($3.66 and $4.39) is 2-3% below the consensus.</p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 18x, 24x, and 30x. 18x is today&#8217;s 18.1x forward P/E rounded down, so the Bear Case assumes that NFLX never gets a higher forward multiple, even if EPS grows 20% a year. My model applies it to 2031 EPS, and on 2026 EPS without the fee, NFLX is at 22x today, so this case also includes some derating. 24x is the -1 standard deviation band (24.3x), and in 2023-2025 it was roughly the floor of the NFLX forward P/E. 30x is a PEG of 1.5, the ceiling of my rules, and still below the 32.6x 5Y mean.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 18x): fair price <strong>$78</strong> - MoS price $54<br>Base Case (exit P/E 24x): fair price <strong>$103</strong> - MoS price $72<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price <strong>$129</strong> - MoS price $90</p></blockquote><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>These fair prices are lower than in February ($88/$110 at 20x/25x) and in the free NFLX entries of <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-001">Watchlist #001</a> and <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002">Watchlist #002</a> ($117/$122/$152 at 23x/24x/30x). Against February, the difference is small: the starting EPS was $3.13 then, and the exit multiples were 1-2 points higher. Against the watchlist, there are two reasons. The watchlist model started from the 2026 consensus of $3.59, which includes the termination fee, and my starting EPS without it is 15% lower. Also, the Bear Case multiple is today&#8217;s 18x instead of the 23x of early September. The Base and Bull multiples did not change. The full analysis replaces the quick watchlist model.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5mB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F023cb8f3-dc0a-4d5c-b98e-2cc3a11097f3_2400x1151.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5mB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F023cb8f3-dc0a-4d5c-b98e-2cc3a11097f3_2400x1151.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5mB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F023cb8f3-dc0a-4d5c-b98e-2cc3a11097f3_2400x1151.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Accumulation Zone (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $67, NFLX is 14% below the Bear Case fair price and <strong>35% below the Base Case</strong>. The accumulation zone is <strong>$54-78</strong>. The result depends most on growth. At 15% EPS growth per year, roughly the 2026 pace without one-offs, the fair prices are $63/$84/$104, and the Bear Case is 7% below today's price. At 10%, they are $50/$67/$84. Since the margin is the least certain input here, I see the zone in two parts. Between $63 and $78, my strict Bear Case needs more EPS growth than the ~15% in 2026 without one-offs to justify the price. Below $63 (the Bear Case at 15% growth), it does not. At $67, NFLX is in the upper part, so for me this is a zone to accumulate gradually, not one price.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (10 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $25.21B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $15.56B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $14.77B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $11.38B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (50.68%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (29.69%; 25.24% without the fee)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (22.87%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (27.69%/53.46%/17.12%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: No (12.6% per year, 2022-2025)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: No (~12% per year in 2026-2027)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: ~38% at the start of 2022 -&gt; 53.46%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: ~16% at the start of 2022 -&gt; 27.69%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (misses in Q1-Q2 2022, Q1-Q2 2023 and Q2 2026)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (misses in Q4 2022, Q4 2023, Q3 2025 and, without the fee, Q1 2026)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: No (-11.5% in 2022)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (5 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($58.68B) exceed total liabilities ($29.40B) by 2.0x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: No ($6.91B of net debt)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: 51.7% (5Y mean: 75.5%)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: 34.07% (5Y mean: 42.66%)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): 14.4x (5Y mean: 8.6x)</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 7 of 9 (FY2025; not passed: operating cash flow &gt; net income, higher current ratio)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: Yes (P/E 18.7x at $67.05, below even its -1 SD band of 24.3x)</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: No (P/E 18.7x vs 14.9x for XLC; DIS and CMCSA are cheaper)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: Yes (narrow)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: No (1.87% vs 13.63% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (1 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: No (1.24%, including Reed Hastings, who has left the board)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: Yes (4,195M vs 4,340M diluted)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: No (only sales; ~90% of the value under pre-arranged 10b5-1 plans)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (4 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: +36.3%</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (21.28%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: ~$83 (base case: revenue growth 8.7% - below consensus, 8.4% discount rate); undervalued by ~19%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (2.0%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p>In my view, Netflix is a quality compounder that fits a long-term portfolio as a core holding, and NFLX is priced as if the compounding slows down. Netflix is the most profitable streaming service, with a 31% operating margin, ~$12B of FCF in 2026 (including the fee), low net debt, and buybacks of more than 4% of the market cap a year. NFLX trades at ~18x forward earnings, below the 24.3x low end of its usual 5Y range, and if the multiple holds, the price needs ~12-13% EPS growth per year, below the ~15% pace of 2026 without one-offs. Consensus expects ~21%. My model starts from $3.05 of EPS without the termination fee, caps growth at 20%, and gives fair prices of $78/$103/$129, so NFLX is inside the $54-78 accumulation zone and 35% below the Base Case. The realistic downside is a Netflix that grows by price and ads while viewing stays flat, with margin gains of ~1 point a year instead of 2 - then EPS grows ~15-17%, and my 18x Bear Case, which already includes some derating, gives $63-68, around today&#8217;s price. The thesis is not proven yet, since it depends on the margin and on the new content team, so this is a price to accumulate gradually inside the zone rather than all at once. The things to watch are the 2027 margin and content amortization guidance in January, the ad tier launches in March 2027, the first annual engagement report (Q1 2027), and the next US price increase, since most of the US growth is now price.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_XM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13a3db05-b731-4e38-9e24-2105ac6935a6_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_XM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13a3db05-b731-4e38-9e24-2105ac6935a6_2160x2700.png 424w, 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It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Long Bonds at 5.4%: Why I Hold EDV, and What It Costs Me]]></title><description><![CDATA[EDV is 58% below its 2020 peak, and the Fed is raising rates again. I honestly tested my four reasons for holding long bonds against 98 years of history.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/long-bonds-edv</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/long-bonds-edv</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 05:02:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!civF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddcec870-9a68-4cf8-9fbe-2db421d4a042_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!civF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddcec870-9a68-4cf8-9fbe-2db421d4a042_1200x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Long Bonds at 5.4%: Why I Hold EDV, and What It Costs Me</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> Long Treasuries just went through the worst period in the data: 2022 was the worst year for the 10Y Treasury since 1928, and the long-term Treasury fund VUSTX fell 46% from 2020 to 2023, the most since its start in 1986. EDV, the long-bond fund I hold, is ~58% below its March 2020 peak (distributions included). In September, the Fed raised rates for the first time since 2023, and in early October, the 10Y yield reached its highest level since 2002. I hold EDV for four reasons: rate cuts, a lower portfolio beta, protection when stocks fall, and a recession hedge. History supports only the last one, and only with a condition: in the 15 down years for US stocks since 1928 with inflation below 3%, Treasuries rose in 13, while in the 11 down years with higher inflation, they lost to inflation in 9. At the same time, the price is very different from 2020: the 30Y real yield is 3.16%, while before 2026, it was never above 2.75% since the Treasury started publishing it in 2010. In my view, long bonds have a place in my portfolio as a recession hedge with a good starting yield, not as a bet on Fed cuts, and the real question is the size of the position.</p><h2>What happened to long bonds in 2026</h2><p><strong>Yields increased across the whole curve, and the short end increased too.</strong> Since Dec 31, the 10Y Treasury yield increased from 4.18% to 5.09%, and the 30Y from 4.84% to 5.43%. On Oct 05, the 10Y reached 5.31%, and on Oct 07, the 20Y reached 5.71%. In the <a href="https://home.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/TextView?type=daily_treasury_yield_curve&amp;field_tdr_date_value_month=202610">Treasury's own data</a>, both are the highest since 2002. By Oct 16, both had come down by more than 0.2 points. At the same time, the 3M T-bill increased from 3.67% to 4.26%, and the 2Y from 3.47% to 4.74%. The market is not pricing in rate cuts anymore. It is pricing in hikes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26ci!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19a6a137-ab11-4774-ab45-3bd07b346e5d_2200x1562.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26ci!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19a6a137-ab11-4774-ab45-3bd07b346e5d_2200x1562.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26ci!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19a6a137-ab11-4774-ab45-3bd07b346e5d_2200x1562.png 848w, 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pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">US Treasury Yields: Dec 31, 2025 vs Oct 16, 2026 (US Treasury)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The Fed raised rates on Sep 16, for the first time since 2023.</strong> The vote was 12-0, and the target range moved to 3.75-4.00%. The <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20260916a.htm">statement</a> is short: &#8220;Inflation remains elevated. Today&#8217;s policy action will support a timelier return to the Committee&#8217;s 2 percent goal.&#8221; According to <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/16/fed-rate-decision-september-2026.html">CNBC</a>, 16 of the 18 participants expected another hike this year, and the officials do not expect inflation at 2% before 2029. Before the next meeting on Oct 27-28, futures price in a <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/19/bonds-treasurys-us-yields.html">more than 85% chance</a> that the Fed holds, and the next hike is expected in December.</p><p><strong>Inflation is the main reason.</strong> According to the <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomcminutes20260916.htm">minutes</a> of the September meeting, Fed staff estimated that PCE inflation increased to 3.8% in August, and core PCE stayed at 3.4%. The staff attributed it mostly to past tariff increases, higher energy and input costs from geopolitical developments, and more expensive technology goods because of the AI buildout. The <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/14/cpi-inflation-report-september-2026.html">September CPI</a> was hotter than expected: 3.7% YoY, up from 3.4% in August, and gasoline alone increased 9.1% in a month. Core CPI was 2.6%. Oil prices are the part that moves every day: <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/articles/u-30-bond-yield-rises-090404305.html">Reuters</a> connects the global bond selloff with the Iran war, energy costs, and government spending.</p><p><strong>Investors also want more pay for lending for 30 years.</strong> The minutes list what the market pointed to besides the Fed: geopolitical developments, uncertainty about the Treasury&#8217;s buyback program, and competition for capital from heavy private debt issuance to finance AI infrastructure. All of it pushes up the term premium. The Treasury tried to help: in mid-August, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent expanded the buyback program, but <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/currencies/articles/us-30-yield-hits-highest-083706130.html">according to Bloomberg</a>, it has had little sustained impact.</p><p><strong>Worth noting what did not change: the inflation that the market expects over 30 years.</strong> The 30Y real yield (TIPS) increased from 2.62% to 3.16%, almost as much as the nominal yield. So the inflation priced in for the next 30 years moved only from 2.22% to 2.27%. The minutes say the same: longer-term inflation expectations remained stable. In other words, the market does not price a return of the 1970s. It prices a higher real price of money.</p><p>As a result, long bonds and stocks went in different directions. YTD, EDV is at <strong>-7.9%</strong> (including distributions), while the S&amp;P 500 total return is +12.9% (Yahoo Finance, Oct 16).</p><h2>What EDV is</h2><p><strong>EDV holds only the longest part of the Treasury market, and not even ordinary bonds.</strong> It holds 80 Treasury STRIPS: zero-coupon securities that pay nothing until maturity and then pay everything at once. The index is the Bloomberg US Treasury STRIPS 20-30 Year Equal Par Bond Index. As of Sep 30, the average duration was 23.9 years, the yield to maturity 5.8%, and the expense ratio 0.05% (<a href="https://www.vanguardsouthamerica.com/en/product/etf/fixed-income/0930/extended-duration-treasury-etf">Vanguard</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU_i!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F019f7d9c-e4bf-48db-8827-f110649fe7a8_2000x1770.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JU_i!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F019f7d9c-e4bf-48db-8827-f110649fe7a8_2000x1770.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">EDV in Numbers (Vanguard)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>For readers in Europe: EDV, TLT and SGOV are US-listed ETFs, and European brokers often do not offer them. I did not find a UCITS ETF that holds Treasury STRIPS, so EDV has no exact analog. The closest one is the <a href="https://www.ishares.com/uk/individual/en/products/297191/ishares-treasury-bond-20-yr-ucits-etf">iShares $ Treasury Bond 20+yr UCITS ETF</a>: DTLA (accumulating, ISIN IE00BFM6TC58) or IDTL (distributing). It tracks the ICE US Treasury 20+ Year Bond Index, the same index as TLT, with a 0.07% expense ratio. Its duration is 14.82 years (Oct 16), against 23.9 years for EDV, so it moves ~40% less for the same change in yields. For SGOV, the analog is the iShares $ Treasury Bond 0-3 Month UCITS ETF (US03, ISIN IE000PBKBK34, 0.07%), which holds T-bills with a duration of less than 0.1 years.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Duration 24 means that EDV moves ~24% for every 1 percentage point of change in 20-30Y yields.</strong> The move is not symmetric because of convexity: by my model, an immediate increase of 1 point costs ~21%, and a decrease of 1 point brings ~27%. That is why EDV is more volatile than the stock market. Since 2008, the annualized volatility of its daily returns was 22.2%, against 19.8% for the S&amp;P 500. Since 2021, it was 21.0% against 16.5% (Yahoo Finance, my calculation). Vanguard itself writes that the fund &#8220;is primarily intended for institutional investors with extremely long-term liabilities.&#8221;</p><p><strong>The long-term result is weak.</strong> According to the <a href="https://fund-docs.vanguard.com/F0930.pdf">fact sheet</a> (PDF), as of Jun 30, EDV returned -3.69% per year over 10 years and +2.67% per year since its start in December 2007. To compare, from Jan 29, 2008 (the first price in Yahoo Finance) to Oct 16, 2026, EDV returned 2.0% per year, and the S&amp;P 500 returned 11.8% per year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iA7c!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb53415a6-02e5-4f62-adbc-cdaf70b6a98f_2520x1432.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iA7c!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb53415a6-02e5-4f62-adbc-cdaf70b6a98f_2520x1432.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">EDV: Distance from Its Peak, Total Return, 2008-2026 (Yahoo Finance, author's calculation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The chart shows two different stories.</strong> Until 2020, EDV had deep but temporary drawdowns: the worst was -41% from December 2008 to April 2010, and EDV was back at its high by September 2011. Then, on Mar 09, 2020, EDV reached its all-time high on the day when the 30Y yield was 0.99%. From that day, it lost up to ~60% (Oct 07), distributions included, and on Oct 16, it was ~58% below the peak.</p><h2>Why I hold it</h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Watchlist #002: October Update, 6 of 10 Stocks in the Buy Zone]]></title><description><![CDATA[The same 6 names as in September are in their zones, and every one of them is cheaper now. The estimates barely moved.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-002</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2026 05:01:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b8b86821-d0ff-47a0-8be8-3a413bebc0cb_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> This is the monthly recheck of my watchlist, as of October 09, 2026. All 10 names still pass my screens, so nobody leaves the list. 6 of the 10 are in their buy zones, the same 6 as in <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-001">Watchlist #001</a>, and every one of them is cheaper than a month ago. At the same time, the consensus EPS for 2026 moved by less than 1% for 8 of the 9 refreshed models, so my fair prices barely moved either. The prices fell, not the estimates. The earnings season starts on Oct 20 with Netflix, so this is the last check on the old numbers.</p><h2>How this issue works</h2><p>In Watchlist #001, I promised to recheck these zones in every monthly portfolio issue, starting with <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-003">Portfolio #003</a>. I did not do it in #003 - it covered only the portfolio. From now on, the two series are separate. <strong>Every portfolio issue rechecks the portfolio stocks, and every watchlist issue rechecks all watchlist names.</strong> The portfolio comes out at the start of each month, and the watchlist in the middle.</p><p>The method is the same as in #001: consensus EPS for 2026, grown for 5 years at the consensus growth rate plus the dividend yield (capped at 20% in total), multiplied by three exit P/E multiples and discounted at 12% a year. Fair price = the Base Case. Buy zone = the Bear Case fair price. The model sheets have <strong>a new design</strong>, in the same style as my other charts: the consensus, the inputs, the three cases, and the model path to 2031 in one image. All changes below are against the numbers in the #001 entries.</p><p>The screens are rerun each month too. A name leaves the list in <strong>only two cases:</strong> I buy it, or a quality test breaks. A name that drops out of a screen only because its price increased (the PEG and P/E tests) stays on the list.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The exit multiples are the same as in #001. I do not lower the Bear Case multiple between reports. If I did, the buy zone would follow the price down and never be reached. The multiples get reset after the reports, together with the estimates.</em></p></blockquote><h2>NFLX</h2><blockquote><p>Next earnings: Oct 20 (confirmed)<br>Fair price: $122<br>Buy zone: up to $117<br>Curr Price/Fair Price: 0.59 (<mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">41% undervalued</mark>)<br>PEG: 0.98</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5zIa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86c0ee1d-8601-4bd6-b99d-b7b2be02d265_3000x2078.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Since Watchlist #001, <strong>the stock decreased 13.5%</strong>, from $82.73 to $71.57, the largest decrease on the list. At the same time, the consensus EPS for 2026 did not change at all ($3.59), and the 2027 and 2028 estimates moved by 1-2 cents.</p><p>So the decrease is the multiple, not the earnings. NFLX is at 20.7x forward earnings, further below its -1 standard deviation band (24.3x) and far below its 32.9x 5Y mean. The exit multiples stay at 23x/24x/30x, and the fair prices did not move: $117/$122/$152. At $71.57, the stock is <strong>39% below the Bear Case fair price</strong>, the deepest discount on the list. PEG is 0.98.</p><p>What I watch: the Oct 20 report. The 5Y EPS estimate is <strong>21.18%</strong>, just above my 20% cap, so the fair prices move only if it falls below 20% or if the 2026 EPS changes. My <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/netflix-analysis">last full analysis of Netflix</a> was in February, at $77. The updated one, on the Q3 numbers, comes on Oct 27, one week after the report.</p><p>Below are the other 9 entries. 5 of them are in their buy zones, and all 5 are cheaper than a month ago. One estimate increased 15% in a month without moving my fair price, and one buy zone may move a lot after the next report for a technical reason. At the end: what the screens found this month, and the whole list in one table.</p>
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The stock is still at 6x earnings, so I checked whether this cycle is really different.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/micron-analysis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/micron-analysis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2026 05:02:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hrWI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabb47d59-ec0b-4681-8e70-16967ba4cf27_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid subscribers got this analysis on Oct 04. <a href="https://longtermpick.com/subscribe">Upgrade</a> your subscription to get the next one early.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Micron Still at 6x Earnings: Peak or New Normal?</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> Micron (MU) is one of three companies that make most of the world's DRAM (the working memory of servers, PCs, and phones), and it sells high-bandwidth memory (HBM) for AI chips and solid-state drives (SSDs) for data centers. The <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/723125/000072312526000018/a2026q4ex991-pressrelease.htm">Q4 FY2026 report</a> was another record: revenue increased 379% YoY to $54.2B, and gross margin reached 87%. FY2026 net income of $85.0B is 1.85x Micron's combined net income of the previous 10 years. At the same time, the stock is at 6.2x FY2027 consensus earnings, since the market does not believe these margins will last. Management says this cycle is different, because 26 multi-year contracts now have floor prices. I see a better cycle, not the end of cycles - only ~26% of revenue through 2030 has a defined price. Verdict: a record business priced for a peak that lasts. My model holds FY2027 EPS flat for 5 years instead of growing it, and MU is far above my accumulation zone.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>Micron reported Q4 FY2026 on Sep 30 with revenue, gross margin, and EPS above the top of its own guidance, and it guided another record for Q1 FY2027. In my <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/micron-the-most-expensive-mistake">July analysis</a>, I decided not to buy MU at $879, since a 6x P/E on peak memory earnings is a trap. Since then, the stock is up 25%, and it is still at 6x forward earnings, because the EPS estimates increased almost as fast. Micron has also signed contracts that, as management says, change the economics of the industry. My idea here is to test that claim against 25 years of memory cycles.</p><ul><li><p><strong>The upcycle is still getting stronger.</strong> Revenue increased 379% YoY to $54.23B, the sixth record quarter in a row, and non-GAAP EPS reached $33.42. Part of the jump is the calendar, since Q4 had 14 weeks. On a 13-week basis, revenue grew ~22% QoQ, and the Q1 FY2027 guidance of $61.5B is another ~22% above that.</p></li><li><p><strong>Analysts raise the estimates, and the market still pays 6x.</strong> Consensus expects FY2027 EPS of $176.69 (+134%) on revenue of $274.7B (+106%), and the EPS estimate increased 11% in the last 7 days and 18% in 90 days. At $1,097, MU trades at 6.2x that EPS, a 16.1% earnings yield. The PEG ratio of 0.03 means nothing here, since consensus itself expects EPS to stop growing in FY2029. The better question is what the price assumes. At a 12% required return and a 12x exit multiple, MU needs FY2032 EPS of ~$161, 9% below the FY2027 consensus.</p></li><li><p><strong>FY2026 was by far the best year in Micron&#8217;s history.</strong> The GAAP gross margin was 80.72%, net margin 63.80%, and FCF $59.0B after $30.7B of capex. LTM ROIC is 67.49% against a 13.26% 5Y mean. Micron has $68.3B of net cash, against $2.6B of net debt a year ago.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple is low, but it is always low at the top.</strong> MU trades at 6.2x forward earnings against a 17.7x 5Y mean, and the mean is distorted by 2023, when forward EPS was close to zero. My own 10Y history from SEC filings gives a better picture. The median trailing P/E at Micron&#8217;s reports was 14.6x, but at the two previous earnings peaks, it was 2.6x (December 2018) and 6.1x (July 2022). By then, the stock was already 45-50% below its high.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> new cleanrooms from all three large producers start output in 2027-2028, customers already cut memory per system, and by TrendForce&#8217;s estimate, memory will take 68% of the capex of large cloud companies in 2027. My model takes this into account by holding FY2027 EPS flat for 5 years instead of growing it, and today&#8217;s 6x is the Bear Case exit multiple. With these inputs, the Bear Case fair price is $602, and MU trades 82% above it.</p></li></ul><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Dec 16, 2026 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: $1.24T<br>Sector: Information Technology | Industry: Semiconductors<br>Type: Large Growth<br>Short Interest: 2.60%</p></blockquote><p>Micron Technology was founded in 1978 in Boise, Idaho, and it is still headquartered there. <strong>It is the only US-based DRAM producer.</strong> Memory is the whole business: DRAM brought 73% of revenue in Q4 FY2026, NAND 26%, and NOR the rest. Sanjay Mehrotra has been CEO since 2017. Before that, he co-founded SanDisk and was its CEO from 2011 until its sale in 2016. Micron had ~53,000 employees at the end of FY2025.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaZL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fa36b2b-9122-47a8-9b82-c9ffe59bea70_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaZL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fa36b2b-9122-47a8-9b82-c9ffe59bea70_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaZL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fa36b2b-9122-47a8-9b82-c9ffe59bea70_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The <strong>product range</strong> covers the whole memory hierarchy of a data center. DRAM: HBM stacks that are placed next to AI accelerators (HBM3E and HBM4), high-capacity DDR5 server modules, low-power LPDDR5X (including SOCAMM modules for servers), and graphics memory. NAND: data center SSDs, client SSDs for PC makers, and managed NAND for phones and cars. In December 2025, Micron <a href="https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business">decided to exit</a> its Crucial consumer business, so that the supply goes to larger customers in faster-growing segments.</p><p>Micron reports four business units. <strong>The two data center units brought 63% of Q4 revenue</strong>, and the Core Data Center unit grew more than 11x in one year. At the same time, every unit has a gross margin of 83-90%, including phones, PCs, and cars, since prices increased in every market at once.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3_nH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02c93ee3-2665-45a1-8260-36a6ca2559fd_2520x1088.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3_nH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02c93ee3-2665-45a1-8260-36a6ca2559fd_2520x1088.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Results by Business Unit, Q4 FY2026 (Data: Micron, Sep 30, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Micron makes the chips itself.</strong> According to its <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/723125/000072312525000028/mu-20250828.htm">FY2025 10-K</a>, wafers are produced in the US, Taiwan, Singapore, and Japan, and chips are assembled and tested in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, China, and India. New fabs in Idaho, Japan, Singapore, and New York are under construction. Sales go mostly directly to large customers. In FY2025, the top 10 customers brought more than half of revenue, and ~80% of revenue was shipped to locations outside the US.</p><h2>Market Overview</h2><p><strong>The memory market is set to grow ~4.6x in 2 years.</strong> In its <a href="https://www.wsts.org/esraCMS/extension/media/f/WST/7618/WSTS_FC-Release-2026-May.pdf">June 2026 forecast</a>, World Semiconductor Trade Statistics (WSTS) expects the memory market to grow from $230B in 2025 to $804B in 2026 (+250%) and $1,062B in 2027 (+32%). To compare, the market was $158B at the peak of the 2018 cycle. The same chart also shows what this market does after a peak: -33% in 2019, -16% in 2022, followed by -29% in 2023.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nq9h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0552688d-8eb9-4b28-afb3-9fda6c51ebcf_2520x1378.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nq9h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0552688d-8eb9-4b28-afb3-9fda6c51ebcf_2520x1378.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nq9h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0552688d-8eb9-4b28-afb3-9fda6c51ebcf_2520x1378.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Memory Market, 2016-2027E (Data: WSTS, Jun 02, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Most of the growth is price, not volume.</strong> In Q3 FY2026, Micron&#8217;s DRAM revenue increased 343% YoY. In its <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/723125/000072312526000015/mu-20260528.htm">10-Q</a>, the company explains it by a &#8220;low-260% range&#8221; increase in average selling prices and a &#8220;low-20% range&#8221; increase in bit shipments. In Q4, DRAM prices increased again by a high-teens percentage QoQ, NAND prices by ~30%, while bit shipments grew by a mid-single-digit percentage and ~10%, in a quarter with one extra week. So the revenue growth depends on prices that continue to rise.</p><p>Micron&#8217;s margin history shows what happened after every previous price peak. GAAP gross margin reached 61.0% in FQ4 2018, then fell to 26.6% in 5 quarters. It reached 47.3% in FQ4 2021, then fell to -32.7% in FQ2 2023, when Micron sold chips below their cost. Today it is <strong>86.8%, 25.8 points above the previous record</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t-6w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5056939f-2c74-4f95-b777-dbaf0a5b976c_2520x1418.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t-6w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5056939f-2c74-4f95-b777-dbaf0a5b976c_2520x1418.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t-6w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5056939f-2c74-4f95-b777-dbaf0a5b976c_2520x1418.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Gross Margin by Quarter, FY2010-FY2026 (Data: Micron 10-K and 10-Q filings via SEC, Sep 30, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The structure is an oligopoly.</strong> In Q2 2026, Samsung, SK hynix, and Micron had 87.6% of DRAM revenue, <a href="https://www.trendforce.com/presscenter/news/20260907-13219.html">according to TrendForce</a>. Micron's share was 23.3%, 1.6 points behind SK hynix. In HBM, Micron is the smallest of the three with 18%, down 3 points in one quarter, while Samsung, the first to ship HBM4, increased its share from 21% to 33% (<a href="https://en.sedaily.com/finance/2026/09/03/samsung-doubles-hbm-market-share-to-33-percent-narrowing">Counterpoint Research data</a>). The fourth DRAM producer is China's CXMT. Its revenue grew 716% YoY in Q2 2026, and <a href="https://counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/ai-demand-reshapes-dram-rankings-in-q2-2026">Counterpoint expects</a> it to use its recent IPO to expand capacity.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AIV1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea33ffb7-bdea-46f1-b908-706490d20ac0_2520x680.png" width="1456" height="393" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Memory Market Share, Q2 2026 (Data: TrendForce, Counterpoint Research, Sep 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Supply is tight until 2028, and then new capacity arrives.</strong> Micron expects industry DRAM bit shipments to grow in the low-20s percentage range in 2027 and 2028, with the industry supply constrained in both years. <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/diverging-memory-market-outlook-in-2027-as-dram-supply-remains-tight-while-nand-flash-supply-conditions-ease-says-trendforce-302838972.html">TrendForce agrees</a> for DRAM - new fabs ramp in the second half of 2027, and &#8220;substantial output contributions are not expected to materialize until 2028&#8221;. On NAND, the two disagree. Micron expects the NAND industry to stay supply constrained in 2027 and 2028. TrendForce expects NAND supply to become looser in the second half of 2027, with &#8220;downward pressure on prices&#8221;. NAND was 26% of Micron&#8217;s Q4 revenue.</p><p><strong>The demand risk is the price itself.</strong> TrendForce <a href="https://www.trendforce.com/presscenter/news/20260825-13198.html">estimates</a> that DRAM and NAND will take 47% of the total capex of large cloud service providers (CSPs) in 2026 and 68% in 2027. Its suggestion is that CSPs may reduce memory capacity per system. This is already happening. CSPs and server makers reduced server DRAM capacities in the first half of 2026, and NVIDIA (NVDA) is <a href="https://www.trendforce.com/presscenter/news/20260804-13166.html">evaluating lower HBM configurations</a> for its next-generation Rubin Ultra. Micron also expects server units to grow in the high teens in 2026 and 2027, with &#8220;a modestly lower rate of content growth&#8221; per server. In my view, the market here is not limited by demand for AI, but by what customers are ready to pay for memory.</p><div class="paywall-jump" data-component-name="PaywallToDOM"></div><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37IQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1692e2f0-2423-4d0a-93c2-be80b3c42751_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37IQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1692e2f0-2423-4d0a-93c2-be80b3c42751_1200x800.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Every LTM margin is a record.</strong> Gross margin is 80.72% (5Y mean: 33.35%), EBIT margin 74.59% (17.74%), net margin 63.80% (14.03%), and FCF margin 44.27% (2.21%). A year ago, non-GAAP gross margin for the full year was 40.9%. Nothing in Micron&#8217;s products changed this much in one year. The price of memory did.</p><p>Let&#8217;s see what protects these margins. <strong>Scale and technology</strong> are real barriers. Only three companies produce leading-edge DRAM at scale, and a new fab takes years and billions of dollars before it gives meaningful output. Micron&#8217;s 1-gamma DRAM and G9 NAND nodes are now its largest. HBM adds <strong>qualification</strong> - each stack is designed and tested together with the customer&#8217;s chip. Micron ships <a href="https://investors.micron.com/news/press-release/2026/Micron-in-High-Volume-Production-of-HBM4-Designed-for-NVIDIA-Vera-Rubin-PCIe-Gen6-SSD-and-SOCAMM2-03-16-2026/default.aspx">HBM4 designed for NVIDIA Vera Rubin</a> and is working with NVIDIA on a custom HBM4E. Once a product is qualified, it is hard to replace within that GPU generation.</p><p><strong>The weak point is that the product is still interchangeable.</strong> DRAM follows industry standards, so a DDR5 module from Micron and one from Samsung do the same job, and price decides who sells. Pricing power appears in shortages and disappears in gluts. The 10-year record shows it. From FY2016 to FY2025, Micron spent $91.4B on capex and earned $46.0B of net income, so it invested ~2x what it earned. In FY2023, it lost $5.8B.</p><p><strong>The new element is the contracts.</strong> Strategic customer agreements (SCAs) are take-or-pay contracts with committed volumes, and most of them have a floor price. Management says that even at floor prices, gross margins will be &#8220;well above our peak quarterly margins in any past cycle&#8221;. If that is true, the next downturn should be much smaller than the last ones. As I see it, this can make Micron&#8217;s cycle shallower, but it is not a moat yet - the contracts are less than a year old and have never been tested in a downturn.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R_db!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4dbb533-8ad1-4f22-bb2e-a7e95847521a_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R_db!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4dbb533-8ad1-4f22-bb2e-a7e95847521a_1200x800.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Returns on capital tell the same story. ROIC is 67.49% (5Y mean: 13.26%), ROE 88.26% (15.85%), and ROA 44.56% (8.36%). The 5Y means include the boom of 2026 and are still far below today's levels. In my view, Micron has <strong>no durable moat</strong> - it has an excellent position in an oligopoly, but its excess returns appear only at the top of each cycle.</p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>Contracts before the next downturn.</strong> Micron has signed 26 SCAs and estimates them at more than 35% of its revenue through 2030. Three-quarters of this revenue has a defined pricing framework, mostly a floor and a ceiling, and one-quarter is negotiated at market prices. Customers committed $32B, mostly as cash deposits, and $12.7B of deposits are already on the balance sheet. Remaining performance obligations (RPO) increased from ~$5B at the end of May to ~$150B. As management explained on the <a href="https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/mu/transcripts/699706-q4-2026/">earnings call</a>, RPO counts only committed volumes at minimum prices, so it is a floor, not a forecast.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFUo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71e86781-7a85-4da2-84d8-7c49f8599b46_2520x1376.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFUo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71e86781-7a85-4da2-84d8-7c49f8599b46_2520x1376.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Micron's Strategic Customer Agreements (Data: Micron, Sep 30, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Here, I would like to put these numbers in proportion. 35% of revenue times three-quarters is <strong>~26% of revenue through 2030 at a defined price</strong>. The other ~74% is sold at market prices. And $150B of RPO spread over the contracts until 2030-2031 is ~$29-35B a year, or 10-13% of the FY2027 consensus revenue. There is also a cost. The largest agreements have a ceiling price close to the market price in calendar Q2 2026. Counterpoint notes that SK hynix signed long-term agreements earlier than its competitors and lost DRAM share in a rising market, partly because its prices were fixed below current levels. The contracts protect the floor, and they also limit the upside.</p><p><strong>HBM: price up, share down.</strong> Micron's HBM revenue grew faster than total revenue in Q4. The company has agreed on the vast majority of its calendar 2027 HBM supply "with significant price increases" and expects HBM demand to grow faster than conventional DRAM through 2028. At the same time, its HBM share decreased to 18% in Q2 2026, while Samsung reached 33%. In my view, Micron chooses margin over share in HBM for now.</p><p><strong>Storage for AI inference.</strong> Data center SSD revenue was nearly $10B in Q4, more than 10x the year-ago quarter and over two-thirds of NAND revenue. AI models now keep part of their working data (the KV cache) on fast SSDs, and Micron expects its fifth year in a row of record share in data center SSDs. It is also NAND, the product where TrendForce expects prices to weaken first.</p><p><strong>Cleanrooms first, equipment later.</strong> Net capex was $27.4B in FY2026, 20.5% of revenue against 36.9% in FY2025. For FY2027, Micron guides ~$25B for the first half alone and more in the second half, so the full year will likely be above $50B. Most of the increase is construction. ID1 in Idaho starts wafer output in mid-2027, the Tongluo facility in Taiwan ships meaningful volumes in mid-2027, ID2 and the Japan expansion start in late 2028, the Singapore NAND fab in the second half of 2028, and the first New York fab in 2030. Management promises to add equipment "appropriately with our demand and the market environment". In my view, this is the right approach, and it is also exactly the supply that will decide the next downturn, since Samsung and SK hynix build at the same time.</p><p><strong>A new structure under the CEO.</strong> In <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/723125/000110465926101067/tm2624017d1_ex99-1.htm">August</a>, Manish Bhatia became President and COO, with responsibility for the operating P&amp;L, capital investment, and pricing. Scott DeBoer became President and Chief Technology and Products Officer, and the Chief Business Officer moved to an advisory role. Sanjay Mehrotra stays as Chairman and CEO.</p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3D8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47e3864d-a014-4010-bbce-f8d53a4da886_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3D8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47e3864d-a014-4010-bbce-f8d53a4da886_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3D8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47e3864d-a014-4010-bbce-f8d53a4da886_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Net debt of $2.6B became net cash of $68.3B in one year.</strong> Cash and investments reached $73.5B, including $30.0B of long-term marketable investments, and debt decreased from $14.6B to $5.2B, as Micron prepaid most of its notes. All three rating agencies now rate it BBB+ or equivalent. Worth noting that $12.7B of the cash is customer deposits, which Micron returns in the second half of each contract. Without them, net cash is $55.6B, still ~4.5% of the market cap.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oSAk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faef36eea-0c04-4a74-98f5-52d1926c5e30_1200x800.png" width="1200" height="800" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Debt/Equity, Debt/Capital and Net Debt, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Debt/Equity is 3.7% and Debt/Capital 3.61%, against 23.6% and 18.63% 5Y means. Interest expense was $106M in FY2026 against $99.3B of GAAP operating income, and funds from operations (FFO) cover interest 846x.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tzXo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7cbd47c-85db-45a5-bd1a-372d1f187ed8_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tzXo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7cbd47c-85db-45a5-bd1a-372d1f187ed8_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF reached $59.0B</strong> in FY2026, 44.27% margin, after $30.7B of gross capex. In Q4 alone, adjusted FCF was $33.2B. The CFO expects Q1 FY2027 FCF to be "significantly higher" than that, even with ~$11.5B of capex. Customer deposits ($12.3B in Q4) are reported as financing cash flow, so they are not part of FCF.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHU5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71a5da05-bb15-4d5b-b9ab-971b564cf786_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHU5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71a5da05-bb15-4d5b-b9ab-971b564cf786_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHU5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71a5da05-bb15-4d5b-b9ab-971b564cf786_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Shares Outstanding and Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Almost none of this cash was returned yet.</strong> In FY2026, Micron bought back 2.5M shares for $650M and paid $610M of dividends, together 2% of adjusted FCF. The diluted share count increased 1.6%, and the buyback yield is 0.14% against a 1.32% 5Y mean. The reason is the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act">CHIPS Act</a>. Under its funding agreements from December 2024 (up to $6.1B of grants, later $6.4B with Virginia), buybacks in the first two years were limited mostly to offsetting dilution. From Dec 09, 2026, Micron plans to increase capital returns and, "over time," to return 100% of excess cash. Only $2.2B remains under the current authorization, and the CFO said the company will seek more. The dividend is $0.15 per quarter, a 0.05% yield.</p><p>The <strong>shareholder yield</strong> is even slightly negative, -0.03%. The reason is the -0.22% debt paydown yield, which is equal to $12.7B of customer deposits minus $10.0B of debt repayments in FY2026.</p><p>In my view, the <strong>coming buybacks</strong> are the most important capital allocation decision in Micron&#8217;s history. Since repurchases started in FY2019, Micron never spent more than $2.66B on them in one year. <strong>Now it can spend tens of billions per quarter.</strong> At 9.0x book value, every dollar of buybacks is a bet that peak earnings last. The other options are limited - the same CHIPS agreements restrict special dividends until December 2029. So a slower buyback pace and more cash are the cautious choice.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgYN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b4b1f0-5bf9-4029-bf5c-475a08a33c72_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgYN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b4b1f0-5bf9-4029-bf5c-475a08a33c72_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgYN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5b4b1f0-5bf9-4029-bf5c-475a08a33c72_1200x800.png 848w, 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Costs are a different matter. Micron raised FY2026 incentive compensation for every employee and contributed $300M to community investments, so non-GAAP opex increased by $1.05B QoQ. For FY2027, it expects opex to increase another ~$2.5B (+37%), mostly R&amp;D and incentive compensation, and ~$1B of higher costs will reduce the Q1 gross margin. In a downturn, part of these costs disappears with the bonuses, but R&amp;D does not.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!effg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffddba0cf-956f-4a99-95f1-1277a2f49992_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!effg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffddba0cf-956f-4a99-95f1-1277a2f49992_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!effg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffddba0cf-956f-4a99-95f1-1277a2f49992_1200x800.png 848w, 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The real test starts on Dec 09, when Micron decides how much of the peak cash flow to spend on its own stock at a peak price.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;a8ce57f6-f0cc-471d-a9e9-6abfb3fed5c5&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Credo (CRDO) sells the connections inside AI clusters: active electrical cables (AECs), optical transceivers and the chips inside them, and retimers. The Q1 FY2027 report was another beat, and the company raised its full-year growth outlook to more than 85%. At the same time, the stock fell 20% the next day and is now 32% below its mid-August price. I see smaller beats, not a weaker business. The rest of the year depends on a new optical business, and stock-based compensation (SBC) is close to 20% of revenue in the Q2 guidance. Verdict: a very profitable company priced as if its growth were temporary. 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Even a deep downturn would not threaten the balance sheet.</p></li><li><p><strong>Contracts that change the next downturn.</strong> 26 take-or-pay agreements with $32B of customer commitments and floor prices that, as Micron says, still give margins above any previous peak. A year ago, Micron&#8217;s remaining performance obligations were &#8220;not material&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>The data center mix.</strong> 63% of Q4 revenue came from the two data center units, and data center SSDs reached nearly $10B a quarter. AI servers are the part of demand that still grows in units, while Micron expects PC and phone units to decline, potentially by double digits, this year.</p></li><li><p><strong>US supply.</strong> Micron is the only large DRAM producer with DRAM fabs in the US, supported by up to $6.4B of CHIPS Act grants and a 35% investment tax credit. Management lists &#8220;DRAM made in the U.S.&#8221; among its differentiation opportunities.</p></li><li><p><strong>A huge earnings yield if the peak lasts.</strong> At 6.2x FY2027 consensus EPS, the earnings yield is 16.1%. Mizuho <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/analyst-ratings/mizuho-raises-micron-stock-price-target-to-1400-on-ai-strength-93CH-4926467">expects</a> FY2027 FCF above $140B, ~11% of the market cap, and from December, Micron can return much more of it to shareholders.</p></li></ul><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>No proof of returns through a full cycle.</strong> From FY2016 to FY2025, capex was ~2x net income. The GAAP gross margin was negative for four quarters in a row in 2023, and GAAP EPS fell 79% from FY2018 to FY2020.</p></li><li><p><strong>Supply is coming from everyone at once.</strong> Micron&#8217;s FY2027 capex will likely be above $50B, and TrendForce notes that all major DRAM suppliers have started expansion plans. It expects new DRAM output to become substantial in 2028 and NAND supply to become looser already in the second half of 2027.</p></li><li><p><strong>Customers push back.</strong> By TrendForce&#8217;s estimate, memory will take 68% of large cloud companies&#8217; capex in 2027; some of them already have negative FCF, and NVIDIA is evaluating less HBM per chip. Prices that are this high encourage customers to use less memory.</p></li><li><p><strong>Lower share in HBM.</strong> Micron&#8217;s HBM share decreased from 21% to 18% in one quarter, while Samsung&#8217;s increased from 21% to 33%. In HBM, the most expensive memory product, Micron is third.</p></li><li><p><strong>A peak valuation on book value.</strong> MU trades at 9.0x book value against a 3.3x 5Y mean. This summer, it fell 39% in 34 days, from $1,213.56 to $739.00, without any decline in earnings. The CEO sold shares every month from May to August, other executives sold too, and there were no insider buys.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong> this upcycle is driven by price, and the price increases are slowing. Management itself expects "a more moderate rate of price increases" after Q1, and TrendForce expects conventional DRAM contract price growth to slow to 13-18% QoQ in Q3. In the last two cycles, the stock peaked before earnings: in 2018, MU peaked in May, three months before the quarter with the record gross margin ended, and in 2022, it peaked in January, before the record revenue quarter that ended in June. If FY2032 EPS ends up 50% below the FY2027 consensus, my model gives $301 at 6x and $602 even at 12x. As I see it, <strong>the main risk</strong> is not that AI demand disappears, but that supply catches up in 2028 while the price is still set for peak earnings. A small position is the only protection I see against being wrong in either direction.</p><h2>Competitors</h2><p>I compare Micron with <strong>4 listed memory competitors</strong>. Samsung Electronics (SSNLF) is the DRAM leader with 39.4%, and it also sells phones, TVs, and foundry services. SK hynix (SKHY) is the HBM leader with 50%. Sandisk (SNDK) and Kioxia (KXIAY) are NAND companies, so they compete only with Micron&#8217;s storage business. CXMT is the fastest-growing DRAM producer, but I treat it as a risk for the others, not as an investment alternative.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2wEh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F84e3e3f1-9350-4d7f-8b8e-e865b25b4be2_2520x1574.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2wEh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F84e3e3f1-9350-4d7f-8b8e-e865b25b4be2_2520x1574.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2wEh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F84e3e3f1-9350-4d7f-8b8e-e865b25b4be2_2520x1574.png 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU vs Competitors (Data: Koyfin, Oct 02, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The market prices the whole group as if the peak is near.</strong> The forward P/E is 4.3x for SSNLF and KXIAY, 4.5x for SKHY, 6.2x for MU, and 8.4x for SNDK, against ~21.7x for the iShares Semiconductor ETF (SOXX). Every PEG ratio in the group is 0.21 or lower. In other words, the market applies the same rule to all memory producers - these earnings are not normal. Within the group, MU is the second most expensive on P/E and P/S, after SNDK.</p><p><strong>On gross margin and ROIC, Micron is the best of the three DRAM producers.</strong> Its LTM gross margin is 80.72% against 76.27% for SK hynix and 57.48% for Samsung, and its ROIC is 67.49% against 35.76% and 25.41%. Only on FCF margin is SK hynix ahead, at 48.47% against 44.27%. Samsung&#8217;s numbers include phones and foundry, so they understate its memory business. Its <a href="https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-announces-second-quarter-2026-results">chip division</a> earned KRW 89.2T of operating profit on KRW 127.5T of revenue in Q2 2026, a 70% margin, and this division also includes foundry and chip design. SK hynix <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sk-hynix-announces-2q26-financial-results-302837085.html">reported</a> a 76% operating margin for Q2 2026 and ~10 long-term agreements with key customers. Its net margin is above its EBITDA margin only because of large non-operating gains. Sandisk leads the group in ROIC (72.75%) and in FCF margin (56.77%).</p><p><strong>SK hynix is the next-best alternative</strong>, as I see it. The HBM leader with a slightly lower gross margin, and SKHY trades at 4.5x forward earnings against 6.2x for MU. Micron&#8217;s advantages over it are higher ROIC, US fabs, and a US primary listing. At the same time, SK hynix signed its long-term agreements earlier, and as Counterpoint notes, part of its prices were fixed below current levels. Micron&#8217;s disadvantage is its third place in HBM. None of the five escapes the price cycle, so the choice between them is less important than the decision to own memory at this point of the cycle.</p><h2>Past</h2><p>Q4 FY2026 (ended September 3, 14 weeks, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Revenue +379% to $54.23B (+345% on a 13-week basis); +31% QoQ</p></li><li><p>DRAM +343% to $39.77B; NAND +526% to $14.10B</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP gross margin 87.0% against 45.7% a year ago; operating margin 82.3%</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP EPS $33.42 against $3.03 a year ago; GAAP EPS $32.87</p></li><li><p>Operating cash flow $43.97B, adjusted FCF $33.20B, customer deposits received $12.3B</p></li><li><p>FY2026: revenue $133.19B (+256%), non-GAAP EPS $75.52 (+811%), GAAP net income $84.97B, LTM ROIC 67.49%</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did MU barely move after such a report?</strong> Revenue was 8.5% above the midpoint of the company&#8217;s own guidance and ~7% above consensus, and EPS was 5-7% above consensus, depending on the source. The Q1 revenue guidance was ~9% above consensus, and EPS guidance 6-9% above. At the same time, MU fell 0.8% after hours (to $1,056.75), and on Oct 01, it closed only 3.0% higher (at $1,097.39). The reasons, ranked by importance:</p><ul><li><p><strong>It was already in the price.</strong> MU rose 15% in the two weeks before the report, from $926.55 on Sep 16 to $1,065.11.</p></li><li><p><strong>Capex.</strong> ~$25B in the first half of FY2027 alone, and more in the second half. This is the supply that the bears wait for.</p></li><li><p><strong>Costs.</strong> ~$1B of higher costs in Q1 (incentive compensation and startup costs), and +$2.5B of opex in FY2027. As a result, the Q1 gross margin guidance of ~86.25% is below Q4&#8217;s 87.0%.</p></li><li><p><strong>Slower price increases.</strong> Management expects &#8220;a more moderate rate of price increases&#8221; after Q1.</p></li><li><p><strong>The extra week.</strong> On a 13-week basis, Q4 revenue grew ~22% QoQ, not 31%.</p></li></ul><p><strong>At the same time, nothing in the report was weak.</strong> In my view, the reaction makes sense. The market no longer pays for beats in the current quarter. It pays for how long the cycle lasts, and the report did not change that question.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iW04!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67bf21f4-945f-4f4d-8536-b9ab75c93b44_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iW04!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67bf21f4-945f-4f4d-8536-b9ab75c93b44_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iW04!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67bf21f4-945f-4f4d-8536-b9ab75c93b44_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The longer history is a history of cycles.</strong> GAAP EPS was $11.51 in FY2018, $2.37 in FY2020, $7.75 in FY2022, -$5.34 in FY2023, and $74.33 in FY2026. FY2026 net income was 6.0x the previous record from FY2018. The stock followed the same pattern - in each memory downturn since 2000, MU fell ~50% or more from peak to low, and in two of them, ~90%.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HVYK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61fb90a7-384e-4c78-9bf3-4c856f562c2e_2520x1454.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HVYK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61fb90a7-384e-4c78-9bf3-4c856f562c2e_2520x1454.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU in Past Memory Downturns (Data: Yahoo Finance, Micron filings via SEC, Sep 30, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Worth noting the last two rows. In 2024-2025 and again this summer, MU fell 58% and 39% while the gross margin kept rising. The stock trades on fear of the next downturn, not only on the downturn itself.</p><p>At the same time, the long-term result is excellent. With dividends, MU returned <strong>73.64% a year over 5 years</strong>, while the S&amp;P 500 (VOO) returned 13.80%. Over 10 years, it is 51.35% a year against 15.31%. MU is up 285% this year alone.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uthe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F156f34d9-c2da-42bf-bfcd-6bb109c4fd5b_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uthe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F156f34d9-c2da-42bf-bfcd-6bb109c4fd5b_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uthe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F156f34d9-c2da-42bf-bfcd-6bb109c4fd5b_1200x800.png 848w, 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class="image-caption">MU Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2027 $274.71B (+106.26%), FY2028 $313.35B (+14.07%), FY2029 $317.34B (+1.27%)</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $176.69 -&gt; $205.30 -&gt; $204.29 (FY2027-FY2029), so consensus itself expects <strong>EPS to stop growing in FY2029</strong></p></li><li><p>Revisions: FY2027 EPS +10.7% in 7 days and +17.8% in 90 days (from $150.01), FY2028 EPS +14.5% in 7 days, according to <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MU/analysis/">Yahoo Finance data</a></p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 192.00% (5Y mean: 9.82%); from FY2027 to FY2029, consensus EPS grows only ~7.5% a year, so the 5Y number is not useful here, and Micron&#8217;s own history has no stable growth rate to compare with (GAAP EPS was negative in FY2023 and grew 879% in FY2026)</p></li><li><p>Analysts: 9 Strong Buy, 36 Buy, 3 Hold, 0 Sell, 1 Strong Sell (49 analysts); average target <strong>$1,520.02</strong>, 38.51% from here (the range is $361-2,200)</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: Q1 FY2027 revenue $61.5B &#177; $1.5B, gross margin ~86.25%, opex ~$2.06B, EPS $38.15 &#177; $1.00; FY2027 another record with sequential revenue growth each quarter, Q1 as the floor for the gross margin, opex +$2.5B, tax rate ~15.5%</p></li></ul><p><strong>The estimates go up faster than the targets.</strong> In July, the average target was $1,489.57. It increased only 2% since then, while the stock increased 25% and the FY2027 EPS estimate increased ~18%. In my view, analysts accept higher earnings, but not a higher multiple for them.</p><p><strong>What has to happen for the thesis to work.</strong> FY2027 consensus EPS of $176.69 means ~$46 per quarter after the Q1 guidance of $38.15. That is ~21% above the Q1 level on average, or ~10% QoQ growth in each of the next three quarters. Management guides sequential revenue growth in every quarter of FY2027, so FY2027 looks realistic to me, but no longer conservative. The real question is FY2029-FY2032. For today&#8217;s price to make sense in my model, three things have to hold: DRAM prices stay high after new cleanrooms start output in 2028, the SCA floors work as management describes (contracted volumes keep margins above the old 61% record in the next downturn), and Micron spends the coming buybacks at prices that do not destroy value. The next checkpoints are capital returns from Dec 09, the Q1 FY2027 report in December, and the 2027 capex plans of Samsung and SK hynix in January.</p><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br>Price/Fwd Earnings: 6.2x vs 17.7x<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 4.5x vs 3.5x<br>Price/FCF: 21.0x vs 73.6x<br>Price/Book: 9.0x vs 3.3x<br>PEG: 0.03 vs 1.06<br>Forward Earnings Yield: 16.1%</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZNC9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7ede898-c5c0-417c-bbc2-3db32d331486_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU P/Fwd E and P/Fwd S, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>On earnings, MU is cheap. On sales and book value, it is expensive.</strong> The forward P/E of 6.2x is far below the 17.7x mean. At the same time, P/S is 4.5x, at its +1 standard deviation (SD) band and above the 3.5x mean, and P/B is 9.0x against a 3.3x mean and a 6.3x +1 SD band. To compare, memory competitors trade at 4.3-8.4x forward earnings, and SOXX at ~21.7x. For a company whose earnings move with prices, I trust sales and book multiples more at the top of a cycle, since they do not include a peak margin.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The 5Y mean P/E includes 2023, when forward EPS was close to zero and the P/E reached ~400x, so even the -1 SD band is negative (-9.3x). For this reason, I do not use the mean anywhere in my model. Instead, I calculated MU&#8217;s trailing P/E at each earnings report over the last 10Y from SEC filings and daily closes. The median is 14.6x, excluding 6 quarters with losses and 3 with near-zero earnings. The P/FCF mean of 73.6x is distorted in the same way, since FCF was close to zero or negative in 2023-2024. Koyfin&#8217;s forward P/E uses the next 12 months, which are almost entirely FY2027. On FY2026 non-GAAP EPS, the P/E is 14.5x.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bf5W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f073c97-f873-4576-8708-6d4f4853b7a5_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bf5W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f073c97-f873-4576-8708-6d4f4853b7a5_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bf5W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f073c97-f873-4576-8708-6d4f4853b7a5_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The PEG ratio says nothing here.</strong> The 5Y EPS growth estimate is 192.00% against a 9.82% mean, so the PEG of 0.03 is the result of an extreme growth number, not a sign that the stock is cheap.</p><p><strong>What does the price already assume?</strong> I start from the FY2027 consensus EPS and require 12% a year. Then MU needs ~13% annual EPS growth for 5 years if the multiple stays at 6x. At a 9x exit, ~4% a year is enough. At 12x, EPS can even decline slightly - FY2032 EPS of ~$161 is enough. So the price does not assume more growth. It assumes that the FY2027 level of earnings, 2.3x FY2026, is roughly where Micron stays.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. It compares the price with three lines: consensus forward EPS times 6x, 9x, and 12x. MU is just above the 6x line ($1,060), while 9x would mean $1,590 and 12x $2,120. In 2023, all three lines were below zero. Worth noting that the corridor applies the multiples to today&#8217;s forward EPS without discounting, so its lines are higher than my fair prices.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5zZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96782c30-cd4e-43f0-916f-2e20a9505e60_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k5zZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96782c30-cd4e-43f0-916f-2e20a9505e60_1200x800.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T36p!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddb00e3b-7525-4cbc-8e2b-065430706239_1929x914.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T36p!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddb00e3b-7525-4cbc-8e2b-065430706239_1929x914.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T36p!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddb00e3b-7525-4cbc-8e2b-065430706239_1929x914.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T36p!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddb00e3b-7525-4cbc-8e2b-065430706239_1929x914.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T36p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddb00e3b-7525-4cbc-8e2b-065430706239_1929x914.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My model normally projects consensus EPS 5 years forward, with future growth capped at 20% per year. <strong>For Micron, I do not grow it at all</strong>. Starting EPS is the FY2027 consensus of $176.69, the growth rate is <strong>0%</strong>, and EPS in FY2032 is also $176.69. The 20% cap is a ceiling, not a target, and at the top of a memory cycle, even flat earnings are an optimistic assumption.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>With the usual approach (FY2027 EPS growing at the 20% cap), FY2032 EPS would be $440, and even a 6x exit would give a fair price of $1,497. That is exactly the trap I described in July - the model would call MU cheap at the peak. In July, I used book value for the zone ($180-270, at 2-3x book). Book value per share has increased 37% since then, to $122, and from now on I prefer an earnings model with flat EPS, since it shows directly what the price assumes about the peak.</em></p></blockquote><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 6x, 9x, and 12x, and since my model applies them to peak earnings, they have to be peak multiples. 6x is today&#8217;s 6.2x rounded down, and it is also MU&#8217;s trailing P/E at the last earnings peak (6.1x in July 2022). In 2018, the multiple at the earnings peak went down to 2.6x, so 6x is not the worst case. 12x is still below the 10Y median trailing P/E of 14.6x. The median includes the recovery years, when the P/E was high because earnings were low, while my model applies the multiple to peak earnings. 9x is in the middle - a market that believes the SCAs only partly. Worth noting that the 30% margin of safety has a simple meaning here - the Bear Case MoS price equals the Bear Case fair price if FY2032 EPS is 30% below the FY2027 consensus.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 6x): fair price <strong>$602</strong> - MoS price $421<br>Base Case (exit P/E 9x): fair price <strong>$902</strong> - MoS price $632<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 12x): fair price <strong>$1,203</strong> - MoS price $842</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2qEN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25bfe386-e645-454c-8fc1-9adc8509fcf5_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU Accumulation Zone, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $1,097, MU is 82% above the Bear Case fair price, <strong>22% above the Base Case</strong>, and 9% below the Bull Case. The accumulation zone is <strong>$421-602</strong>, and MU last closed inside it on May 04, 2026, five months ago. The result depends most on the level of earnings after the peak. If FY2032 EPS is 30% below the FY2027 consensus, the fair prices decrease to $421/$632/$842. If Micron grows EPS 5% a year from that peak, they increase to $768/$1,152/$1,535, and MU would be 5% below the Base Case. Worth noting that the Bull Case of $1,203 is 21% below the average street target of $1,520. The street applies higher multiples to the peak earnings, and my model does not.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (12 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $107.50B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $99.34B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $84.97B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $58.96B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (80.72%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (63.80%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (44.27%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (67.49%, 88.26%, 44.56%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: Yes (~105% per year, from the FY2023 low)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: Yes (~34% per year to FY2029)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: negative in FY2023 -&gt; 88.26%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: negative in FY2023 -&gt; 67.49%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (a miss in Q1 FY2023)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (a miss in Q1 FY2023)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: No (a GAAP loss in FY2023)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (6 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($195.89B) exceed total liabilities ($57.51B) by 3.41x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: Yes ($68.27B of net cash)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: 3.7% (5Y mean: 23.6%)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: 3.61% (5Y mean: 18.63%)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): 846.0x (5Y mean: 89.8x)</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 8 of 9 (not passed: more diluted shares YoY)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (1 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: No (P/S 4.5x vs 3.5x and P/B 9.0x vs 3.3x; the P/E and P/FCF means are distorted by the 2023 downturn)</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: No (6.2x forward P/E vs 4.3-8.4x for memory competitors; SOXX ~21.7x)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: No (an oligopoly, but no excess returns through the cycle)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: Yes (73.64% vs 13.80% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (0 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: No (0.24%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: No (1,143M vs 1,125M diluted)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: No (only sales, including monthly sales by the CEO)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: +38.51%</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (192.00%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: ~$475 (base case: revenue growth -0.7%, net margin from 66.7% to 33.7%, 10.5% discount rate); overvalued by ~56%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (2.60%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p>MU is not a buy for me at this price, and if it belongs in a long-term portfolio, then as a small cyclical position, not as a core holding. Micron is one of three producers that matter in DRAM. FY2026 was the best year in its history: 81% gross margin, $59.0B of FCF, and $68.3B of net cash. MU trades at 6.2x FY2027 consensus earnings, which looks cheap, but at 9.0x book value and at a price that is fair only if FY2027 earnings last for 5 years. The SCAs make the next downturn smaller, but they cover only ~26% of revenue with a defined price and cap the upside of the largest contracts. My model holds FY2027 EPS flat, uses exit multiples of 6x/9x/12x, and gives fair prices of $602-1,203 with an accumulation zone of $421-602. At $1,097, MU is 22% above the Base Case and far above the zone. As I see it, the realistic bear case is not a collapse of AI demand but a normal memory downturn after new supply arrives in 2028, with earnings falling by half and the stock falling before them. Watch DRAM contract prices, the size and price of the buybacks from Dec 09, and the 2027 capex plans of Samsung and SK hynix, and judge the thesis on gross margin in the first quarter with falling prices, not on the record quarters.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eB_d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e471a4b-ebe0-40c8-890f-ad7a530e9d90_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eB_d!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e471a4b-ebe0-40c8-890f-ad7a530e9d90_2160x2700.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MU One-Pager (Author's summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Portfolio #003: September Overview, 8 of 9 Stocks in the Buy Zone]]></title><description><![CDATA[The portfolio lost 4.62% in September, mostly due to long-term interest rates. At the same time, 8 of my 9 stocks are now in their buy zones.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-003</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-003</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 05:01:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d9f4096e-9281-4d16-af19-0d09483b0a5a_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> September was a weak month: the portfolio lost 4.62%, while the S&amp;P 500 added 0.36%. YTD, it is at -0.90% against +12.47%, and since December 2021, at +88.83% against +66.63%. Most of the decrease came from long-term interest rates - EDV and First Solar together explain more than half of it. There were no trades, and every point of the September plan was done. At the end of the month, 8 of my 9 stocks were in their buy zones, against 6 of 9 a month ago.</p><h2>The track record</h2><p>In September, the portfolio lost <strong>4.62%</strong>, while the S&amp;P 500 added 0.36%. YTD, it is at <strong>-0.90%</strong> against +12.47%. Since December 2021, the portfolio is up <strong>88.83%</strong> against 66.63% for the S&amp;P 500, or 14.09% a year against 11.17%.</p><p>The YTD gap is ~13 points, and it has two sources. A third of the portfolio is in Treasuries: YTD, SGOV returned ~3%, and EDV lost ~12%. At the same time, FSLR and ADBE both lost ~32% YTD, and V, my largest position, gained only ~4%.</p><p>One comparison changed this month. QQQ is now ahead since inception: +93.34% against my +88.83%, or 14.65% a year against 14.09%. <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-002">In #002</a>, the portfolio was ahead of all four benchmarks. It is still ahead of the S&amp;P 500, VUG (12.64% a year), and SPYG (13.06%). The Sharpe ratio decreased to 0.82 from 0.90; beta (0.95) and the maximum drawdown (-19%, 123 days) did not change.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KsdP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ef4ba5-b8a5-4329-9380-cd7d1a3c5176_1861x694.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KsdP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ef4ba5-b8a5-4329-9380-cd7d1a3c5176_1861x694.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KsdP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ef4ba5-b8a5-4329-9380-cd7d1a3c5176_1861x694.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Portfolio vs Benchmarks, as of September 30, 2026 (Portseido)</figcaption></figure></div><p>As promised in #002, the final August number is now in the table: <strong>+1.62%</strong> against +2.54% for the S&amp;P 500. It is lower than the +2.50% I published because that number did not include Aug 31.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q-9h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3952187-f92f-43e7-bbcc-92b69ba110ba_961x836.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q-9h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3952187-f92f-43e7-bbcc-92b69ba110ba_961x836.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q-9h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3952187-f92f-43e7-bbcc-92b69ba110ba_961x836.png 848w, 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The calendar September is in the monthly table: -4.62% against +0.36%.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>All numbers in this issue are as of September 30, 2026, taken during the US trading session (around midday in New York), not after the close. The final September figure, with the full last day, will appear in the monthly table of #004.</em></p></blockquote>
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The stock is down 15% since the report.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/credo-analysis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/credo-analysis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c04d6f47-c9fe-4e2b-9d39-e2bdc6caa40e_1200x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid subscribers got this analysis on Sep 18, when the price was lower. <a href="https://longtermpick.com/subscribe">Upgrade</a> your subscription to get the next one early.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QTqE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad123b69-d9c7-45ff-a813-700399830226_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><span>Credo: 50% Consensus Growth for </span>24x<span> Earnings</span></figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> Credo (CRDO) sells the connections inside AI clusters: active electrical cables (AECs), optical transceivers and the chips inside them, and retimers. The </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-Technology-Group-Holding-Ltd-Reports-First-Quarter-of-Fiscal-Year-2027-Financial-Results/default.aspx"><span>Q1 FY2027 report</span></a><span> was another beat, and the company raised its full-year growth outlook to more than 85%. At the same time, the stock fell 20% the next day and is now 32% below its mid-August price. I see smaller beats, not a weaker business. The rest of the year depends on a new optical business, and stock-based compensation (SBC) is close to 20% of revenue in the Q2 guidance. Verdict: a very profitable company priced as if its growth were temporary. CRDO trades at 24x forward earnings for 50% consensus EPS growth, and the price is above the zone of my model; my full fair price math and the accumulation zone are at the end of this post.</span></p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>Credo reported Q1 FY2027 on Sep 01 with record revenue, a higher full-year growth outlook, and record non-GAAP EPS of $1.20. CRDO fell 20% the next day and 27% in 2 weeks. It is now 42% below its June high, while consensus EPS for the next 12 months is at a record. My idea here is to check whether the report changed the long-term economics of the company or only the shape of this year.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth is still very high, but the beats became small.</strong> Revenue increased 115% YoY to $479.0M, the seventh quarter in a row of triple-digit growth. In the three quarters before <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-Technology-Group-Holding-Ltd-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Fiscal-Year-2026-Financial-Results/default.aspx">Q4 FY2026</a>, Credo beat the top of its own revenue guidance by 12-18%. In the last two quarters, the beat was below 1%.</p></li><li><p><strong>The market prices in a much weaker future than analysts expect.</strong> The consensus 5Y EPS growth estimate is 50.0%, and CRDO trades at 24.1x forward earnings, a PEG ratio of 0.48. At a 12% required return and a 22x exit multiple, today&#8217;s price needs only ~17% annual EPS growth.</p></li><li><p><strong>The business is already very profitable.</strong> LTM gross margin is 67.07%, net margin 33.83%, and ROIC 20.8%. FCF over the last 12 months is $439M. Credo has no borrowings and $764M of cash and short-term investments.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple is near the bottom of its range.</strong> CRDO trades at 24.1x forward earnings, 47% above its 16.4x -1 standard deviation band. The 88.5x mean since the IPO comes from the loss-making years, so I do not use it. And this despite the fact that analysts expect record EPS for the next 12 months.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> two customers bring 71% of revenue, the second half depends on optical products that have just started to ship, SBC is ~20% of revenue in the Q2 guidance, and the diluted share count increased 5% in 1 year. My model takes this into account by capping future growth at 20%, far below consensus, and by using the 17x -1 standard deviation band as the Bear Case exit. With these limits, the price of $176 is 16% above my Bear Case fair price ($151) and 10% below the Base Case ($196).</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>EPS in this post is non-GAAP, since the estimates are built on it. The difference is large. In Q1, GAAP EPS was $0.67 against $1.20 non-GAAP, mostly because of SBC, acquisition costs, and the amortization of acquired intangibles. The 71% is the share of the two largest contracting customers in the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1807794/000162828026060111/crdo-20260801.htm">10-Q</a>. By end customer, the top four brought 84% of revenue.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p><span>Next Earnings Date: Dec 02, 2026 (estimated)</span><br><span>Market Cap: $33.06B</span><br><span>Sector: Information Technology | Industry: Semiconductors</span><br><span>Type: Large Growth</span><br><span>Short Interest: 3.3%</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Credo Technology Group was founded in 2008 in San Jose, California, and it is incorporated in the Cayman Islands. It started with serializer/deserializer (SerDes) technology - the circuits that move data between chips at high speed. Its engineers began to work on active electrical cables in 2017, and </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2019/Credo-Announces-Production-Availability-of-HiWire-Active-Electrical-Cables-09-04-2019/default.aspx"><span>production of the first HiWire AECs</span></a><span> started in 2019. An AEC is a copper cable with Credo chips at both ends, which clean and boost the signal. </span><strong>Credo created this product category, and AECs are still its largest business.</strong><span> The IPO was in January 2022 at $10 per share. Bill Brennan has been CEO for 13 years, and the two founders, Lawrence Cheng (CTO) and Job Lam (COO), are still in management and on the board.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ziby!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F030396af-519d-4f61-a4f9-efd9a05ffaf6_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ziby!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F030396af-519d-4f61-a4f9-efd9a05ffaf6_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The <strong>product range</strong> has four groups. AECs connect GPUs and servers with the first switch at distances of up to 7 meters. The optical business includes digital signal processors (DSPs) for optical transceivers, silicon photonics photonic integrated circuits (PICs) from the <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-Completes-Acquisition-of-DustPhotonics/default.aspx">DustPhotonics acquisition</a>, and ZeroFlap optical transceivers that Credo builds itself. Retimers (Screaming Eagle, Blue Heron, and Toucan) keep the signal clean inside servers and in scale-up networks. The rest is SerDes IP licensing and chiplets. Most products work with PILOT, Credo&#8217;s diagnostics software. <strong>The company is fabless</strong> - TSMC (TSM) makes its chips, and Amkor (AMKR) and ASE (ASX) package and test them. 616 of its 807 employees are engineers, <span>according to the </span><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1807794/000162828026043303/crdo-20260502.htm">10-K</a><span>.</span></p><p>Credo sells to hyperscalers and neoclouds directly and through cable and optical module makers. By shipment destination <span>(</span>Q1 10-Q<span>)</span>, 53% of Q1 revenue went to the US, 19% to Hong Kong, and 16% to Malaysia. <strong>Mainland China decreased from 23% of revenue a year ago to 0.2%.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/credo-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/credo-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/credo-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p><strong>The optical market is growing faster than almost any other part of the data center.</strong> According to LightCounting <span>(</span><a href="https://www.lightcounting.com/newsletter/en/january-2026-optics-for-ai-clusters-366">January 2026</a><span>)</span>, sales of Ethernet optical transceivers and co-packaged optics (CPO) for AI clusters reached $16.5B in 2025 and should reach $26B in 2026, +60% in both years. <span>In </span><a href="https://www.lightcounting.com/newsletter/en/april-2026-market-forecast-379">April 2026</a><span>,</span> it forecast 65% growth for all Ethernet transceivers in 2026, after +93% in 2024. <span>In </span><a href="https://www.lightcounting.com/newsletter/en/march-2026-ethernet-optics-382">March 2026</a><span>,</span> it wrote that there is &#8220;a reasonable chance&#8221; for AI cluster optics to reach $100B per year by 2030. To compare, Credo&#8217;s optical target of more than $600M for FY2027 is less than 3% of the 2026 market.</p><p><strong>Copper still makes most of the connections, and AECs extend its reach.</strong> <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/transcripts/credo-at-goldman-sachs-conference-optical-ramp-drives-bigger-vision-93CH-4896721">According to Brennan</a>, copper is still more than 95% of the connections in a data center, the same share as 12 years ago. AECs cover the short end of the pluggable market, up to 7 meters. According to Brennan, the only switch between the two media so far went the other way - copper replaced optics at lengths of up to 7 meters, first of all because it is more reliable, and also because it uses less power. Credo does not report AEC revenue separately, but <a href="https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2026/09/08/credo-crdo-q1-2027-earnings-call-transcript/">management says</a> it more than doubled in FY2025 and more than tripled in FY2026. I did not find a reliable, recent third-party estimate of the AEC market. The published ones are far below Credo&#8217;s own AEC sales (AECs brought over $230M of extra revenue in Q1 alone), so I do not use them.</p><p><strong>The buyers are few.</strong> LightCounting estimates that four cloud companies are responsible for more than 50% of AI spending on optical transceivers: Amazon (AMZN), Google (GOOGL), Meta (META), and Microsoft (MSFT). In its January report, it also expects optics to be 3.1% of the capex of the top 5 cloud companies in 2026, up from 2.7% in 2025. Credo has the same structure on a smaller scale, with two customers at 71% of revenue.</p><p><strong>The risk is the timing, not the size.</strong><span> In its newest forecast (April 2026), LightCounting writes that demand exceeds supply by 30%, and that the shortages should go away by the end of 2026. It also warns that transceiver sales usually drop once the shortages ease, even while capex still grows: "This will happen again in the current cycle, but we just don't know when." In March, it pointed to a possible flat or negative year in 2027-2028. Credo plans its fastest growth for exactly this period: ~20% QoQ in Q3 (November-January) and ~30% in Q4 (February-April). In my view, this is the most important market question for CRDO today. A pause in orders across the industry would hurt a company whose guidance needs acceleration.</span></p><div class="paywall-jump" data-component-name="PaywallToDOM"></div><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yVyR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59ebd20c-6ea8-4434-8602-5d4ee7d790e0_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yVyR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59ebd20c-6ea8-4434-8602-5d4ee7d790e0_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Every LTM margin is far above its 5Y mean.</strong> Gross margin is 67.07% (mean: 62.41%), EBIT margin 31.74% (-3.07%), net margin 33.83% (-1.66%), and FCF margin 27.57% (-9.5%). The means include the loss-making years before FY2025, so the more useful number is the trend. The non-GAAP gross margin stayed between 67.6% and 68.6% for five quarters, while quarterly revenue more than doubled. Management guides FY2027 at the same level as FY2026 (68.1%).</p><p>Let&#8217;s see where this margin comes from. Part of it is <strong>intellectual property</strong>. Credo owns 86 issued US patents and 52 in mainland China. In March 2025, it <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2025/Credo-Files-AEC-Patent-Infringement-Complaint-Against-Amphenol-Molex-TE-Connectivity-and-Volex-with-United-States-International-Trade-Commission/default.aspx">filed a complaint</a> with the US International Trade Commission (ITC) against Amphenol (APH), Molex, TE Connectivity (TEL), and Volex over its AEC patents. By March 2026, <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-and-TE-Connectivity-Reach-Settlement-in-Active-Electrical-Cable-Disputes/default.aspx">all four cases were settled</a> with license or cross-license agreements, and <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2025/Credo-Licenses-Its-Active-Electrical-Cable-Patents-To-The-Siemon-Company/default.aspx">Siemon</a> and <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-and-3M-Enter-Into-Patent-License-Agreement/default.aspx">3M (MMM)</a> also signed licenses for Credo&#8217;s AEC patents. The terms are confidential, so I cannot say what these licenses are worth. <strong>What I like: four large cable makers chose a license over a long fight.</strong></p><p><strong>The system approach</strong><span> matters even more. Credo designs the SerDes, the chip, the firmware, and the cable, manages the supply chain, and tests its cables with the customer's own switches and network cards before it ships them. Management </span><strong><span>calls this "probably our biggest competitive moat"</span></strong><span> and says the company never fails a customer qualification. I cannot verify the second claim. At the same time, it explains why hyperscalers stay: once a cable is qualified for a cluster, a second supplier has to pass the same qualification again. Next, </span><strong>cost</strong><span>. According to the 10-K, Credo's SerDes reaches similar performance to competitors on an older and cheaper chip process.</span></p><p><strong>The weak point is the customer's power.</strong><span> Two contracting customers brought 71% of Q1 revenue, and the remaining performance obligations were only $4.2M. According to the 10-K, Credo </span><strong><span>does not have long-term purchase commitments</span></strong><span> from its customers, and they can cancel or delay orders.</span></p><p><span>In my view, Credo has </span><strong><span>a narrow moat</span></strong><span>. The returns are high, and </span>the patents held up<span>, but the high profits are only 2 years old, and a customer can move volume to a second supplier after a new qualification.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4xcx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16f875f6-79da-449d-9ed3-5e97c48a843b_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4xcx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16f875f6-79da-449d-9ed3-5e97c48a843b_1200x800.png 424w, 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ROIC is 20.8% (5Y mean: 2.89%), ROE is 30.67% (4.0%), and ROA is 16.11% (1.81%). All three were negative or close to zero until 2025. ROIC decreased in the last quarter. GAAP operating income decreased 23% QoQ because of SBC and the amortization of acquired intangibles, and the DustPhotonics deal added $1.24B of goodwill and intangibles.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, subscribe.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>Own the whole link.</strong><span> Credo builds its own SerDes, DSPs, and, since the DustPhotonics deal, silicon photonics PICs. On top of that, it designs complete cables and transceivers. Management says </span><strong><span>Credo is the only vertically integrated player</span></strong><span> in optical transceivers and expects this to give it an advantage on both the cost of goods and the price. Competitors split the same stack between partners. For example, Marvell (MRVL) sells AEC DSPs to cable makers, and in December 2025, it launched a </span><a href="https://www.hpcwire.com/aiwire/2025/12/09/marvell-launches-strategic-initiative-to-accelerate-aec-ecosystem-and-hyperscaler-adoption/"><span>Golden Cable program</span></a><span> that gives them reference designs and software.</span></p><p><strong>Sell reliability, not only bandwidth.</strong><span> In an AI cluster, one unstable link (a "link flap") can force a reset of the whole cluster. According to management, customers have reported losing 10-20% of GPU utilization because of it. Credo developed ZeroFlap with input from xAI and Oracle (ORCL). According to Bill Brennan, xAI </span>can now bring<span> a cluster up in 5 days instead of 6-8 weeks with ZeroFlap AECs, and its uptime has reached 99.9%. ZeroFlap optical transceivers do the same for longer links. They measure the health of every link in real time and take an unstable link down before it breaks the cluster. The company says it is not targeting the commodity IEEE 1.6T transceiver market, but the parts of the network where reliability justifies a higher price.</span></p><p><strong>Optics as the second business.</strong><span> Management expects more than $600M of optical revenue in FY2027. ZeroFlap optics, silicon photonics PICs, and optical DSPs are each expected to bring more than $100M. The optical DSP business had record revenue in Q1, and the first PIC revenue came in the same quarter. The DustPhotonics team already has two design wins with major customers, with ramps late in FY2027 or in FY2028. By the end of FY2027, Credo plans to produce hundreds of thousands of optical units per month, and then </span><strong><span>double or triple that rate by the end of FY2028</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><strong>New products for FY2028.</strong><span> Active LED cables (ALCs) use micro-LEDs instead of lasers to reach 30 meters with the reliability of copper, and they are 75% smaller in volume than 7-meter AECs. OmniConnect gearboxes connect processors with LPDDR memory to solve the memory bottleneck in inference. </span>Management estimates the Credo content at thousands of dollars per GPU.<span> Both products should bring their first revenue in FY2028. Credo also </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-Joins-Open-CPX-MSA-Organization/default.aspx"><span>joined the </span>Open CPX MSA</a><span> and has design wins for near-package optics (NPO) in scale-up networks, with ramps starting in FY2028.</span></p><p><strong>Buy teams, not revenue.</strong><span> In 12 months, Credo made three acquisitions: </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2025/Credo-to-Acquire-Hyperlume-Inc-/default.aspx"><span>Hyperlume</span></a><span> (micro-LED technology, $92.0M, September 2025), </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2026/Credo-Acquires-CoMira-Solutions/default.aspx"><span>CoMira</span></a><span> (link layer and security IP, $35.1M, February 2026), and DustPhotonics (silicon photonics, $1.25B, May 2026). The 10-Q calls their effect on the results not material. As a result, the 115% growth in Q1 is almost entirely organic, and over 90% of the YoY increase came from higher AEC volumes.</span></p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xtP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0bdc3a4-eecc-4d2c-bdda-d71e1106018d_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xtP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0bdc3a4-eecc-4d2c-bdda-d71e1106018d_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The DustPhotonics deal halved the cash in one quarter.</strong><span> Cash and short-term investments fell to $764M from $1.44B in May. Credo paid $770M in cash, $169M in shares, and booked $310M of contingent consideration that depends on future milestones. As a result, goodwill and intangibles increased to $1.37B, which is 50% of the $2.73B equity. In my view, the price is high for a team with no material revenue yet, but it is 4% of the market cap, and ~38% of it is paid in shares or only if targets are met.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2C7P!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f298ae6-e8ac-4ac0-bfdc-6395a8ed5b5f_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2C7P!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f298ae6-e8ac-4ac0-bfdc-6395a8ed5b5f_1200x800.png 424w, 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Total assets are $3.01B against $284M of liabilities. Credo has no borrowings, and the $26M of debt in Koyfin is operating lease liabilities. 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF reached $439M</strong><span> over the last 12 months, a 27.57% margin, against a $50.1M 5Y mean. Capex is $62M, 3.9% of revenue. The weak spot is Q1. Operating cash flow was only $90.2M against $129.4M of net income, since working capital used $151.3M. Receivables increased $54.5M, and inventory increased $61.5M "to support unfulfilled backlog and related new product ramps". Another $25.3M went to refundable deposits that reserve manufacturing capacity. Inventory is now $313.1M, which is ~168 days of Q1 cost of revenue by my calculation.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QKBw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa716c5b2-21a7-48d4-a685-1e42f5526825_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QKBw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa716c5b2-21a7-48d4-a685-1e42f5526825_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QKBw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa716c5b2-21a7-48d4-a685-1e42f5526825_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Shares Outstanding, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The share count increases every year.</strong><span> Diluted shares increased 5.3% YoY to 194.4M, and management expects ~200M in Q2. The two largest increases were equity sales: a </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2023/Credo-announces-pricing-of-public-offering-12-06-2023/default.aspx"><span>public offering</span></a><span> of 8.94M new shares at $17.50 in December 2023, and an </span><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1807794/000162828026014017/crdo-20260131.htm"><span>at-the-market (ATM) program</span></a><span> that sold 4.8M shares for $736M of net proceeds from October 2025 to January 2026. Credo pays no dividend and does not buy back shares.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q8PJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebe0d85-c763-43c4-82e9-5ba94ba19706_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q8PJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebe0d85-c763-43c4-82e9-5ba94ba19706_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q8PJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebe0d85-c763-43c4-82e9-5ba94ba19706_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Shareholder Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>As a result, </span><strong>shareholder yield is -2.29%</strong><span> against a -3.43% 5Y mean. 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO SBC and SBC % of Revenues, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>SBC is the main cost that the non-GAAP numbers hide.</strong><span> LTM SBC is $235M, 14.78% of revenue, against a 14.67% 5Y mean. In Q1, SBC increased 148% YoY to $88.0M, and the Q2 guidance implies ~$104M, ~20% of revenue. In Q1 alone, Credo granted 2.1M restricted stock units (RSUs) and 1.9M performance units (PSUs). The PSUs include a </span><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1807794/000162828026039474/crdo-20260528.htm"><span>special award</span></a><span> for the CEO - up to 1.44M shares in six tranches, which require trailing revenue of $2.5-7.5B and a stock price of $244.70-489.40 before June 2031. What I like: both hurdles have to be met (with one exception for the first two tranches), and the first revenue hurdle is already the FY2027 consensus. </span><strong><span>LTM SBC equals 54% of FCF</span></strong><span>, so FCF after SBC is only $203M.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gok3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F620f1992-a734-43de-a2d8-f37045c25936_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gok3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F620f1992-a734-43de-a2d8-f37045c25936_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Expenses, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Operating costs grow slower than revenue, but faster than planned. Over the last 12 months, cost of revenue was $524M, R&amp;D $341M, and SG&amp;A $221M. In Q1, non-GAAP operating expenses were $95.2M, above the $86-90M guidance, since R&amp;D for new products increased. Management expects non-GAAP operating expenses to grow ~55% in FY2027, against more than 85% revenue growth.</p><p>As I see it, Credo allocates capital in an <strong>aggressive but focused way</strong>. All the cash goes into R&amp;D, inventory, and technology teams, and shareholders pay for it with dilution instead of receiving a return.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;160909fa-699b-45dc-b6a3-b7d7df47312b&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Adobe (ADBE) makes the standard software for documents and creative work (Acrobat, Photoshop, Premiere) and sells marketing software to large companies. The Q3 FY2026 report was a beat and a raise, and the business is still one of the most profitable in software. At the same time, the stock is at 9.&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Adobe: The Cheapest Software Giant on the Market&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-15T05:01:59.825Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/67bf14d6-065e-4c2d-92d9-fa3993f07649_1080x1080.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:215478624,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:8,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The fastest growth in the group at one of the lowest multiples.</strong> LTM revenue grew 165%, faster than Broadcom (AVGO), Marvell, and Astera Labs (ALAB). At the same time, CRDO trades at 24.1x forward earnings, against 44.8x for Marvell and 54.0x for Astera Labs.</p></li><li><p><strong>The inventor of the AEC category.</strong> Credo started production of AECs in 2019, and Microsoft was its first AEC customer. In 2025-2026, four cable makers settled Credo&#8217;s patent cases with licenses or cross-licenses, and two more companies licensed the patents.</p></li><li><p><strong>Stable margins during a very fast ramp.</strong> The non-GAAP gross margin was 67.6-68.6% in each of the last five quarters, while quarterly revenue increased from $223M to $479M. Management guides the same margin level for FY2027, even with the optical ramp.</p></li><li><p><strong>A net cash balance sheet after a large deal.</strong> Credo paid $770M in cash for DustPhotonics and still has $764M of cash and short-term investments, no borrowings, and a 1.0% Debt/Equity ratio.</p></li><li><p><strong>More products for the same customers.</strong> Credo works with 5 hyperscalers and a growing number of neoclouds. Optics should bring more than $600M in FY2027, and ALCs, OmniConnect, and near-package optics add new revenue from FY2028.</p></li></ul><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>Customer concentration.</strong> Two contracting customers brought 71% of Q1 revenue, and the top four end customers brought 84%. The remaining performance obligations are only $4.2M, and customers have no long-term purchase commitments. The CEO himself describes the hyperscalers as &#8220;surging and then pausing&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>The second half depends on products that have just started to ship.</strong> The CFO expects ~20% sequential growth in Q3 and ~30% in Q4. The first PIC revenue came only in Q1, and the first 1.6T DSP revenue is expected later this fiscal year. If the optical ramp slips by one or two quarters, the FY2027 growth outlook is too high.</p></li><li><p><strong>Heavy SBC and dilution.</strong> SBC is 14.78% of LTM revenue and ~20% in the Q2 guidance. The diluted share count increased 5.3% in 1 year. In Q1, GAAP EPS was only 56% of non-GAAP EPS.</p></li><li><p><strong>AECs become easier to copy.</strong> Marvell <a href="https://investor.marvell.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/136/marvell-extends-connectivity-leadership-with-industrys-first-1-6t-pam4-dsp-for-active-electrical-cables">introduced a 1.6T DSP</a> for AECs in 2024 and started a program with reference designs for cable makers in December 2025. Astera Labs sells <a href="https://www.asteralabs.com/news/astera-labs-reports-first-quarter-2026-financial-results/">smart cable modules</a> for AECs, and the four cable makers from the patent cases now have licenses. Brennan says new entrants show that the market is large. In my view, more suppliers are the main threat to the 68% gross margin.</p></li><li><p><strong>Weaker cash conversion and a large inventory.</strong> Q1 operating cash flow was 70% of net income, and inventory increased 25% QoQ to $313M. Goodwill and intangibles are now $1.37B, so a failed optical ramp would also be an accounting problem.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong><span> the beats became small exactly when the plan became more ambitious. Revenue in Q4 FY2026 and Q1 FY2027 came in only 0.5% and 0.8% above the top of the guidance, after 12-18% in the three quarters before. Even the top of the Q2 guidance ($535M) is +99.6% YoY, so the streak of triple-digit growth ends unless Credo beats it by more than $1M. The CFO's path for Q3 is only ~56% YoY, since Q3 FY2026 was a very strong quarter. A pause at a large customer already happened once. In February 2023, Credo's largest customer </span><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1807794/000162828023003504/crdo-20230214.htm"><span>reduced its demand forecast</span></a><span>; the company cut its quarterly revenue guidance to $30-32M (consensus was above $45M), and CRDO fell 47% in one day. FY2024 revenue then increased only 4.8%. </span><strong>The biggest risk</strong>, as I see it, is<span> a repeat of 2023 at one of the two largest customers while the optical business is still small. My fair price does not include this risk, so it has to be handled with the size of a position.</span></p><h2>Competitors</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gB2o!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda5614d1-da17-451b-8fd5-aa530575f67d_2437x1386.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gB2o!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda5614d1-da17-451b-8fd5-aa530575f67d_2437x1386.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gB2o!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda5614d1-da17-451b-8fd5-aa530575f67d_2437x1386.png 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><span>CRDO vs Competitors (Data: Koyfin, </span>Sep 19, 2026<span>)</span></figcaption></figure></div><p>I compare Credo with 3 semiconductor companies and the sector ETF. In the 10-K, Credo names <strong>Broadcom, Marvell, and Astera Labs</strong> as its principal competitors, together with &#8220;various cable and optical transceiver suppliers&#8221;. Broadcom makes DSPs, SerDes, and custom AI chips for hyperscalers, and it also sells infrastructure software. Marvell sells optical DSPs and DSPs for AECs. Astera Labs makes retimers and switches for scale-up networks. In AECs, Marvell and Astera Labs sell chips and modules to cable makers, while Credo sells the complete cable. The cable makers from the patent cases are competitors too, but they sell many other products, so their multiples say little about AECs. The iShares Semiconductor ETF (SOXX) shows the level of the whole sector.</p><p><strong>CRDO is not the cheapest name here, and Broadcom is the real alternative.</strong><span> The forward P/E is 20.7x for Broadcom, 24.1x for Credo, 44.8x for Marvell, and 54.0x for Astera Labs. SOXX trades at ~21.5x. Consensus 5Y EPS growth is 54.69% for Broadcom, 52.49% for Astera Labs, 50.0% for Credo, and 45.81% for Marvell. As a result, the PEG ratio is 0.38 for AVGO and 0.48 for CRDO, against 0.98-1.03 for MRVL and ALAB, and ~1.1 for SOXX. The strong point of Credo is LTM revenue growth: 165.11%, against 98.48% for Astera Labs and 30.62-48.69% for the other two.</span></p><p><strong>On returns and margins, Credo is second after Broadcom.</strong> ROIC is 26.49% for Broadcom, 20.8% for Credo, 19.42% for Astera Labs, and 4.95% for Marvell. Broadcom also has the highest gross margin (75.52%), net margin (42.94%), and FCF margin (44.22%). Credo is second in net and FCF margin. On the balance sheet, Credo is the strongest, with a 1.0% Debt/Equity ratio, against 59.6% for Broadcom.</p><p>In my view, <strong>the next-best alternative is Broadcom</strong>. It has a lower P/E, a lower PEG ratio, higher margins, and a higher ROIC. The difference is the exposure. Broadcom is a much larger and more diversified company, with custom chips, networking, and software, and it has much more debt. Credo is a pure play on AI connectivity, with the fastest revenue growth in the group, net cash, and a much higher customer concentration. For me, CRDO makes sense only as a bet on this specific market, not as a cheaper Broadcom. On valuation alone, Broadcom wins.</p><h2>Past</h2><p>Q1 FY2027 results (quarter ended August 1, USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Revenue: $479.0M, +115% (+10% QoQ), above the top of the $465-475M guidance</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP EPS +131% to $1.20; GAAP EPS +97% to $0.67</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP gross margin 68.0% (67.6% a year ago); non-GAAP operating margin 48.2% (43.1%)</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP operating expenses +75% to $95.2M, above the $86-90M guidance</p></li><li><p>Operating cash flow $90.2M and FCF $82.9M; inventory +$62M QoQ to $313.1M</p></li><li><p>LTM: revenue $1.59B, net income $538M, FCF $439M, and ROIC 20.8%</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AMfc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb63ce91-b565-41e2-8b2d-f81049c138e8_2427x944.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Revenue vs Guidance, Q1 FY2026-Q2 FY2027 (Data: Credo, Sep 01, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Why did CRDO fall 42% from Aug 14 to Sep 15?</strong> The stock was already 27% below its August high when the report came out. Here are the reasons, starting with the most important one:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The reaction to the report.</strong> CRDO fell 8.65% on Sep 01, before the release, and 20.04% on Sep 02, while SOXX increased 0.23% that day.</p></li><li><p><strong>Small beats.</strong> Revenue was $4M (0.8%) above the top of the guidance and 0.7-1.2% above the consensus <span>(</span><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/credo-technology-group-holding-ltd-211502984.html">Zacks</a><span> and </span><a href="https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/crdo/earnings/q1-2027-report">TipRanks</a><span>)</span>. EPS of $1.20 beat the $1.17 consensus by 2.6%. In the first three quarters of FY2026, the beats were much larger, so the market read it as a slowdown.</p></li><li><p><strong>The GAAP gross margin.</strong> It decreased from 68.2% to 64.5%, and the Q2 guidance is 62.9-64.9%. Some analysts saw pricing pressure in it. The main reason is accounting: $11.0M of amortization of the DustPhotonics intangibles and $5.7M of SBC in cost of revenue. The non-GAAP margin was 68.0%, at the midpoint of the guidance.</p></li><li><p><strong>Operating expenses.</strong> Non-GAAP operating expenses were $95.2M, above the $86-90M guidance, and GAAP operating expenses more than doubled YoY.</p></li><li><p><strong>The sector.</strong> On <a href="https://www.tikr.com/blog/credo-stock-fell-13-in-a-single-session-heres-where-the-stock-could-go">Aug 18</a> and Sep 14, CRDO fell 13.03% and 7.89%, while SOXX fell 4.96% and 5.63%. Coherent (COHR) fell ~13% on both days, and Astera Labs fell 11.74% on Sep 14. From Aug 14 to Sep 15, SOXX lost 9%, and Astera Labs lost 21%.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Still, the numbers in the report were strong.</strong> The Q2 guidance midpoint ($530M) is 5% above the Zacks consensus before the report ($502.69M), and the company raised its full-year growth outlook. In my view, the reaction is only partly justified. The worry about the second half is fair, since it depends on new optical products. The worry about the gross margin is not, since the non-GAAP margin did not change.</p><p><strong>Over a longer period, the record is uneven.</strong> Revenue increased from $58.7M in FY2021 to $1.34B in FY2026, and the 3Y revenue CAGR is 93.5%. The path was not smooth. FY2023 revenue ($184.2M) missed the company&#8217;s <a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/news/news-details/2022/Credo-Technology-Group-Holding-Ltd-Reports-First-Quarter-of-Fiscal-Year-2023-Financial-Results-08-31-2022/default.aspx">own target</a> of &#8220;at least $200 million&#8221;, and in FY2024, revenue increased only 4.8% after the largest customer reduced its demand forecast. Credo had GAAP net losses from FY2021 to FY2024 and returned to profit in FY2025 ($52.2M). In FY2026, net income reached $472.3M, and GAAP EPS reached $2.51.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x3LV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd88a74f0-83ca-4c98-80f4-d5653f898342_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x3LV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd88a74f0-83ca-4c98-80f4-d5653f898342_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x3LV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd88a74f0-83ca-4c98-80f4-d5653f898342_1200x800.png 848w, 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Since its first trading day on Jan 27, 2022, CRDO returned </span><strong>1,410%, or 79.5% per year</strong><span>, against 14.66% per year for the S&amp;P 500 (VOO). Right now, it is 42% below its June high, and earlier this year, it increased 245% from its March low in less than 3 months. </span><strong>Beta is 3.23.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tPc2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F410d75d8-c406-495b-b7b5-8186ebafc57c_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tPc2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F410d75d8-c406-495b-b7b5-8186ebafc57c_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO vs VOO, Total Return since 2022 (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Koyfin shows a 70.74% CAGR &#8220;over 5 years&#8221; for CRDO, but the stock has traded for 4.6 years, and the chart starts from the first month-end close ($12.12). I calculated the returns from the daily closes instead: $11.65 on Jan 27, 2022 and $175.89 on Sep 18, 2026, with dividends reinvested for VOO.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png" width="838" height="222" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:222,&quot;width&quot;:838,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:16311,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/216113501?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BB99!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae77d61f-463e-4d0e-a555-e67af2f7ed96_838x222.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2027 $2.50B (+87.36%), FY2028 $3.88B (+54.96%), FY2029 $5.07B (+30.86%) - <strong>the growth is expected to slow every year</strong></p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $6.31 -&gt; $9.70 -&gt; $12.45 (FY2027-FY2029); FY2027 EPS is 82% above the FY2026 non-GAAP EPS of $3.46</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 50.0%, against a 33.56% mean since 2022 and a 59.83% +1 standard deviation band. To compare, non-GAAP EPS was $0.70 in FY2025 and $3.46 in FY2026</p></li><li><p>Analysts: 18 of 19 rate the stock Buy or Strong Buy (4 Strong Buy, 14 Buy, and 1 Hold), average target <strong>$282.47</strong>, +60.59% from here (the range is $185.00-350.00)</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: FY2027 revenue growth of more than 85% (raised from more than 80% in June), optical revenue of more than $600M, a non-GAAP gross margin broadly consistent with FY2026, ~55% growth in non-GAAP operating expenses, and a non-GAAP net margin of ~50%; Q2 revenue $525-535M, a non-GAAP gross margin of 67-69%, and non-GAAP operating expenses of $100-105M</p></li></ul><p><strong>What must go right.</strong><span> The CFO </span><a href="https://investors.credosemi.com/news-events/events/event-details/2026/2026-Goldman-Sachs-Communacopia--Technology-Conference-2026-38_rYV_ZBi/default.aspx"><span>described the path</span></a><span> at the Goldman Sachs conference on Sep 10: ~11% sequential growth in Q2, ~20% in Q3, and ~30% in Q4. That gives ~$2.47B of FY2027 revenue and a $1B quarter "within our sights" in early FY2028. In my view, the plan is realistic if three things happen: the optical products ramp on time, the AEC business keeps growing with the move to 1.6T, and the gross margin stays near 68% while optics becomes a larger part of revenue. The first one is the least certain. My model needs only 20% annual EPS growth over 5 years. That is why the stock does not need the full plan. It needs the business to keep growing after FY2027. The next checkpoints are the ALC demonstration at the Open Compute Project (OCP) summit in October and the Q2 report in early December.</span></p><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p><span>Current vs mean since IPO:</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Earnings: 24.1x vs 88.5x</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Sales: 11.4x vs 14.2x</span><br><span>Price/FCF: 75.4x vs 195.3x</span><br><span>Price/Book: 12.1x vs 12.4x</span><br><span>PEG: 0.48 vs 2.88</span><br><span>Forward Earnings Yield: 3.6%</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32N-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a38dab9-fe16-4fa7-8946-fc537cc18dd4_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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On GAAP earnings, CRDO trades at 62.2x LTM EPS, and the FCF yield is only 1.33%. To compare, SOXX trades at ~21.5x forward earnings. In my view, CRDO is priced slightly above an average semiconductor company, although its PEG ratio is 2.3x lower (0.48 vs ~1.1).</span></p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The means start in 2022, when Credo had no profit, so the forward P/E reached almost 400x in 2023, and the 88.5x mean is not usable. Price/FCF has data only from mid-2024, when FCF became positive. Also, Koyfin&#8217;s 24.1x uses next-12-months EPS ($7.30), which includes part of FY2028. On FY2027 EPS of $6.31, the P/E is 27.9x. 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO P/FCF and P/B, since 2022 (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!89ZJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ff07c1-7c48-4a98-8535-c1697813d390_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!89ZJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ff07c1-7c48-4a98-8535-c1697813d390_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!89ZJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ff07c1-7c48-4a98-8535-c1697813d390_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!89ZJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ff07c1-7c48-4a98-8535-c1697813d390_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!89ZJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ff07c1-7c48-4a98-8535-c1697813d390_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG, since 2022 (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The growth estimate is above its mean, and the PEG is near its lowest level.</strong> The 5Y EPS growth estimate is 50.0% against a 33.56% mean, and the PEG ratio is 0.48 against a 2.88 mean. The mean PEG is also distorted by 2023, but even SOXX has a PEG of ~1.1, which is 2.3x higher.</p><p><strong>What does the price already assume?</strong> If I require 12% per year, CRDO needs ~24% annual EPS growth for 5 years when the multiple decreases to 17x. At a 22x exit, ~17% is enough, and at 30x, ~10%. Consensus expects ~53% per year from FY2026 to FY2029. A reverse DCF shows that the current price implies 41.4% annual revenue growth for 5 years, while consensus expects ~56% per year until FY2029.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. Its three dashed lines are the consensus forward EPS multiplied by my exit multiples (17x, 22x, and 30x), and the black line is the price.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tqAg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133867d1-159d-4efe-b8c5-09573b9ef379_1200x800.png" width="1200" height="800" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Fair Value Corridor, since 2022 (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!poeU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6642e6d1-8e97-4161-8259-2e93efc5ef19_1932x924.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The model starts from the FY2027 consensus EPS of $6.31 and grows it for 5 years. Consensus expects 50.0% per year, which is 2.5x my 20% cap, so the model uses <strong>20%</strong>. Credo pays no dividend. As a result, EPS reaches $15.70 in FY2032, while consensus already expects $12.45 in FY2029.</p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 17x, 22x, and 30x. 17x is the -1 standard deviation band (16.4x today), so this case assumes that CRDO stays at the bottom of its range for 5 years. At the 20% cap, 17x is a PEG of 0.85. 22x is where CRDO traded right after the September 1 report, a PEG of 1.1. 30x is the ceiling of my method, a PEG of 1.5 at the 20% cap.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 17x): fair price <strong>$151</strong> - MoS price $106<br>Base Case (exit P/E 22x): fair price <strong>$196</strong> - MoS price $137<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price <strong>$267</strong> - MoS price $187</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4N3-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7edb9755-d4b1-4d3f-b13f-27c246728113_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO Accumulation Zone (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>At $176, CRDO trades </span><strong>10% below the Base Case</strong><span>. It is also 16% above the Bear Case fair price. My accumulation zone is </span><strong>$106-151</strong><span>, so the price is above it. Growth is the input that moves the result most. If EPS grows 15% per year, not 20%, the fair prices fall to $122/$158/$216, and CRDO is 44% above the Bear Case. At the same time, 15% would already mean a very sharp slowdown from the ~53% that consensus expects until FY2029. Worth noting that the average street target ($282) is above my Bull Case ($267), so my corridor is more conservative than the street.</span></p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (12 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $1.07B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $505M</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $538M</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $439M</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (67.07%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (33.83%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (27.57%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (20.8%/30.67%/16.11%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: Yes (~94% per year)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: Yes (~56% per year over the next 3 years)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: negative in FY2024 -&gt; 30.67%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: negative in FY2024 -&gt; 20.8%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises since the IPO in a row: No (in line in Q3 FY2023 and Q4 FY2024)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises since the IPO in a row: No (a miss in Q2 FY2023)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: No (losses until FY2024)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (5 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($3.01B) exceed total liabilities ($284M) by 10.6x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: Yes ($738M of net cash, with cash and short-term investments of $764M against $26M of lease liabilities)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: 1.0% (5Y mean: 2.9%)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: 0.95% (5Y mean: 2.83%)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): Yes (no borrowings)</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 6 of 9 (not passed: operating cash flow below net income, lower current ratio YoY, and more shares outstanding)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; mean since IPO: Yes</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: No (P/Fwd E 24.1x vs SOXX at ~21.5x and AVGO at 20.7x)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: Yes (narrow)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 since the IPO: Yes (79.5% vs 14.7% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (1 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: Yes (9.06%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: No (194M vs 185M diluted)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: No ($178M of sales, mostly under 10b5-1 plans)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: +60.59%</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (50.0%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: ~$102 (base case: revenue growth 28.2% - below consensus, 10.1% discount rate); overvalued by ~42%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (3.3%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p><span>CRDO belongs in a long-term portfolio as a small, high-risk growth position, not as a core holding. Credo created the AEC category and turned it into a very profitable business, with a 67% gross margin, a 21% ROIC, net cash, and revenue that grew 115% in the last quarter. CRDO trades at </span>24.1x<span> forward earnings and a PEG of </span>0.48<span>, </span>not far from<span> its -1 standard deviation band and </span>slightly above<span> the whole semiconductor sector, although analysts expect 50% annual EPS growth. I cap growth at 20% in my model and use exit multiples of 17x/22x/30x. My fair prices range from $151 to $267, with an accumulation zone of $106-151. </span>At $176, CRDO is 16% above the top of that zone.<span> For me, the realistic bear case is not the end of AI spending but a pause at one of the two largest customers while the optical ramp is late, as in 2023, when the stock fell 47% in one day. For this reason, the position should stay small. Accumulate gradually inside the zone with a multi-year horizon, and judge the thesis on optical revenue in the second half and the non-GAAP gross margin, not the share price.</span></p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5zqs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d8394fa-498c-4e75-9e61-c881b0bf7c0b_2160x2700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5zqs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d8394fa-498c-4e75-9e61-c881b0bf7c0b_2160x2700.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">CRDO One-Pager (Author's summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Adobe: The Cheapest Software Giant on the Market]]></title><description><![CDATA[A software giant with 1 billion users trades at 9.4x earnings. The market might be pricing the wrong story.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 05:01:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/67bf14d6-065e-4c2d-92d9-fa3993f07649_1080x1080.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I5Zi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e227109-cad2-4118-8d1f-3a4ecbf8b5e9_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Adobe: The Cheapest Software Giant on the Market</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> Adobe (ADBE) makes the standard software for documents and creative work (Acrobat, Photoshop, Premiere) and sells marketing software to large companies. The </span><a href="https://news.adobe.com/news/2026/09/adobe-q3fy26-financial-results"><span>Q3 FY2026 report</span></a><span> was a beat and a raise, and the business is still one of the most profitable in software. At the same time, the stock is at 9.4x forward earnings, since the market expects AI tools to replace paid Adobe seats. I see a slowdown, not a decline. Without the </span><a href="https://news.adobe.com/news/2026/04/adobe-completes-semrush-acquisition"><span>Semrush acquisition</span></a><span>, annual recurring revenue (ARR) grows ~9%, and buybacks provide half of the EPS growth. Verdict: a high-quality business priced for decline. Organic growth and the operating margin still move in the wrong direction. ADBE is just above my accumulation zone; my full fair price math and the accumulation zone are at the end of this post.</span></p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>Adobe reported Q3 FY2026 on Sep 10 with record revenue, a higher full-year EPS target, and record Q3 operating cash flow. Over 5 years, consensus forward EPS more than doubled, and the share price lost 62%. My idea here is to separate what is really slowing inside the business from what the price already assumes.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth is slower than the headline, but it is still there.</strong> Revenue increased 13% YoY to $6.76B, and total ARR increased 11.2% to $27.50B. Both numbers include Semrush, which Adobe bought in April. Without it, I estimate revenue growth at ~11% and ARR growth at ~9%.</p></li><li><p><strong>The price assumes much less than consensus.</strong> The consensus 5Y EPS growth estimate is 13.92%, and ADBE trades at 9.4x forward earnings with a PEG ratio of 0.67. At a 12% required return, the free cash flow after stock-based compensation (SBC) implies only ~3.5% long-term growth.</p></li><li><p><strong>The business is still one of the most profitable in software.</strong> LTM gross margin is 89.25%, the FCF margin is 40.79%, ROIC is 39.19%, and FCF reached $10.59B. The diluted share count decreased by 6.8% in 1 year.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple already fell below every historical anchor.</strong> ADBE trades at 9.4x forward earnings against a 24.5x 5Y mean and a 15.2x -1 standard deviation band. And this despite the fact that consensus EPS for the next 12 months has increased every year.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> AI tools make a paid Creative Cloud seat less necessary, organic ARR growth slides below 8%, the non-GAAP operating margin keeps declining, and a new CEO takes over on Dec 01. My model takes this into account by keeping today&#8217;s 9x multiple as the Bear Case exit. Even then, ADBE is only 5% above my Bear Case fair price of $240.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Adobe&#8217;s fiscal year ends in late November, so FY2026 ends soon. EPS in this post is non-GAAP because the estimates are built on it. GAAP EPS is ~$18 for FY2026, mostly because of SBC. The organic numbers are my estimates. The company disclosed ~$40M of revenue and ~$480M of ARR from Semrush for its first month. Its FY2026 targets include ~$280M of Semrush revenue for 7 months, which is ~$120M per quarter.</em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p><span>Next Earnings Date: 10 Dec 2026 (estimated)</span><br><span>Market Cap: $100.26B</span><br><span>Sector: Information Technology | Industry: Software</span><br><span>Type: Large Value</span><br><span>Short Interest: 4.5%</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Adobe Inc. is a software company from San Jose, California, founded in 1982 by John Warnock and Charles Geschke. The first product was PostScript - the page description language behind desktop publishing. Photoshop followed in 1990, and the PDF format in 1993. In 2013, the company stopped selling boxed software and moved the creative suite to Creative Cloud subscriptions. </span><strong>Subscriptions are now 97% of revenue.</strong><span> Shantanu Narayen has been CEO since 2007. On Dec 01, 2026, Anil Chakravarthy (at Adobe since 2020, before that the CEO of Informatica) becomes CEO, and Narayen moves to Executive Chair.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iPXl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01b47cf2-a4a3-45c6-b2b3-9ebde8d77363_1199x695.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iPXl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01b47cf2-a4a3-45c6-b2b3-9ebde8d77363_1199x695.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The </span><strong>product range</strong><span> splits into two customer groups. The first one is Business Professionals &amp; Consumers ($1.91B in Q3, +16% YoY): Acrobat, Reader, Acrobat Sign, and Express (the document and quick-design tools for everyday users). The second one is Creative &amp; Marketing Professionals ($4.65B, +13% YoY): Creative Cloud (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, Lightroom, InDesign, After Effects), Firefly (the generative AI studio, plus its enterprise version), and Adobe CX Enterprise for marketers (Experience Platform, Experience Manager, and GenStudio). Semrush is reported inside Creative &amp; Marketing Professionals.</span></p><p>Distribution is direct (web, app stores, and inside sales) plus resellers and multi-year enterprise agreements. By geography, 59% of revenue comes from the Americas, 27% from Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, and 14% from Asia.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, subscribe.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p>The market itself is large. At its <a href="https://www.adobe.com/cc-shared/assets/investor-relations/pdfs/amju76er354.pdf">March 2024 investor meeting</a>, Adobe estimated its addressable market at ~$205B for 2024 and ~$293B for 2027, which is <strong>~13% growth per year</strong>. Customer experience software is ~$155B of the 2027 figure, creative software ~$91B, and document software ~$47B. In April 2026, the company <a href="https://quartr.com/events/adobe-inc-adbe-adobe-summit-2026-the-digital-experience-conference_3evRzZWh">described</a> the opportunity as expanding to new surfaces such as AI chatbots and agentic browsers. If the estimate is right, Adobe&#8217;s organic ARR grows slower than its market. <strong>The risk is not fewer users, but fewer paid seats per user.</strong></p><p><strong>Adobe&#8217;s audience is growing faster than its revenue.</strong> More than 1 billion people use Adobe products every month, up more than 20% YoY. The creative freemium base (Firefly, Express, and the web and mobile versions of Photoshop, Premiere, and Lightroom) crossed 100 million monthly active users (MAU), up more than 70% YoY. Acrobat and Express together are used by more than 900 million people (up more than 25% YoY), and Acrobat AI Assistant users doubled in one quarter.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXGW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F746bd84f-66c4-499b-a353-adb7a671639a_2520x1403.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXGW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F746bd84f-66c4-499b-a353-adb7a671639a_2520x1403.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Users vs Revenue, Q3 FY2026 (Data: Adobe, Sep 10, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The competitors grew faster from much smaller bases.</strong> Figma (FIG) grew revenue 48% YoY to $370M in Q2 2026 and guides ~39% growth for the year, but it still reported a GAAP net loss of $112M in the quarter. Canva is private. It <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/canva-gets-4b-revenue-llm-140000998.html">ended 2025</a> with ~$4B of ARR and more than 265 million MAU. Recently, it <a href="https://fortune.com/2026/08/12/canva-startup-growth-ai-costs-revenue-forecast-by-third/">cut its revenue growth forecast</a> from 30% to 20%, since it slowed its AI rollout to reduce the cost of AI tasks. In addition, image and video models from OpenAI and Google (GOOGL) produce good-enough visuals for free or inside a chatbot subscription. To compare, <strong>Adobe&#8217;s LTM revenue of $25.97B is ~18x Figma&#8217;s full-year guidance</strong>.</p><p><strong>AI revenue is small, but it grows fast.</strong> AI-first ending ARR is more than $650M, growing more than 150% YoY. That is 2.4% of total ARR. Firefly ARR from the app and credit packs grew 40% QoQ. In my view, the model matters more than the size - Adobe sells the generative features as credits and higher plans, instead of giving them away to defend the base.</p><p><strong>The marketing business grows faster than the creative one, but part of it is bought.</strong> Ending ARR for Experience Manager, GenStudio, and Experience Platform each grew more than 20% YoY. Digital Experience subscription revenue increased 22% YoY in Q3, and I estimate ~9 points of that is Semrush. Without it, the marketing side grew ~13%, against 11% for Digital Media (the creative and document products). More than 20,000 enterprises use Adobe&#8217;s customer experience software. CX Enterprise Coworker (an AI agent for marketing workflows) had more than 1,700 customers and early adopters after it became generally available in June.</p><p><strong>The problem is monetization, not the audience.</strong><span> Total ARR growth decreased from 13.8% in </span><a href="https://www.adobe.com/cc-shared/assets/investor-relations/pdfs/01906202/b75st5a4rwea.pdf"><span>Q1 FY2024</span></a><span> to 11.2% now. The FY2026 target is 10.2%, and it already includes the ~$480M of ARR that Adobe bought with Semrush. Net new ARR in Q3 was $0.40B against $0.66B a year ago. In June, the company </span><a href="https://www.investing.com/news/transcripts/earnings-call-transcript-adobe-beats-q2-2026-forecasts-stock-dips-93CH-4738625"><span>said</span></a><span> it had decided "to defer previously planned Creative Cloud second half line optimizations" (planned price changes) to push the free products first. The CEO put half of the ARR impact on this decision and half on the freemium push.</span></p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9BV0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5248d75-8fc1-49d7-b632-531658ab9812_1200x695.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9BV0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5248d75-8fc1-49d7-b632-531658ab9812_1200x695.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9BV0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5248d75-8fc1-49d7-b632-531658ab9812_1200x695.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The LTM margins are still at or above their 5Y means:</strong> gross margin is 89.25% against an 88.48% mean, EBIT margin is 35.70% against 35.71%, net margin is 28.05% against 28.01%, and FCF margin is 40.79% against 39.47%. The quarterly trend in 2026 is weaker. The non-GAAP gross margin decreased from 90.5% in <a href="https://www.adobe.com/cc-shared/assets/investor-relations/pdfs/01906202/b75st5a4rwea.pdf">Q3 FY2025</a> to 89.5%, since subscription cost of revenue increased 24% YoY against 14% growth in subscription revenue. Semrush explains only a small part of it, since its gross margin was 80.5% in 2025. The company does not explain the rest, but I think the main reason is the compute cost of generative AI features.</p><p>Let&#8217;s see where this margin comes from. Most of it is <strong>switching costs</strong>. File formats: PDF is an ISO standard that Adobe created, and the PSD, AI, and INDD files of Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign are the working formats of design studios and print shops. Next, training: design schools teach Adobe tools, and job descriptions ask for them. Next, the bundle: Creative Cloud sells 20+ applications in one subscription, so an alternative has to replace the whole workflow, not one app. <strong>The weak point is pricing power.</strong> Adobe <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/transcripts/earnings-call-transcript-adobe-beats-q2-2026-forecasts-stock-dips-93CH-4738625">deferred</a> its planned Creative Cloud price changes this year, so the moat has not been tested with higher prices in the AI era.</p><p><strong>Figma is the clearest test of the moat.</strong> In 2022, Adobe agreed to buy Figma for ~$20B, half in cash and half in stock. In December 2023, the companies <a href="https://news.adobe.com/news/news-details/2023/adobe-and-figma-mutually-agree-to-terminate-merger-agreement">terminated the deal</a>, since there was no clear path to approval from the European Commission and the UK Competition and Markets Authority. Adobe paid a $1B termination fee. Today, Figma is a listed competitor with 136% net dollar retention, which means its existing customers spend 36% more every year.</p><p>Worth mentioning also the <strong>enterprise contracts</strong>. Large customers sign multi-year agreements, and remaining performance obligations (RPO) of $22.16B equal 85% of LTM revenue. 67% of them are expected to be recognized over the next 12 months. Management reports &#8220;continued strength in retention&#8221; across enterprise customers, but it does not disclose a retention rate, so I cannot check it.</p><p><span>The marketing software is different. Adobe built most of it through acquisitions (Omniture in 2009, Marketo and Magento in 2018, Semrush in 2026), and it competes directly with Salesforce (CRM). I count it as </span><strong>the main source of growth, not as part of the moat</strong><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XiFk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbe65d1d-2112-4576-a38e-124bbb165bfe_1200x695.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XiFk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbe65d1d-2112-4576-a38e-124bbb165bfe_1200x695.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XiFk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbe65d1d-2112-4576-a38e-124bbb165bfe_1200x695.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The returns on capital still support the moat: </span>ROIC is 39.19%<span> (5Y mean: 30.93%), ROE is 61.90% (41.90%), and ROA is 19.73% (16.14%). Worth noting that ROE is inflated by buybacks, since $55.6B of repurchased stock reduces the equity to $11.76B. ROIC is the cleaner number here, and it decreased slightly in the last quarter after 2 years of increases.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/adobe-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p><strong>Free first, paid later.</strong> Express, Firefly, Reader, and the web versions of the flagship apps have free tiers, and the paid step is a credit pack, a higher plan, or a team seat. The company states that this builds &#8220;long-term durable growth&#8221;. The data confirms the first half of the plan. The second half, conversion into ARR, is not visible yet. On the Q3 call, Anil Chakravarthy said that engagement &#8220;is starting to translate into ARR&#8221;, but by my estimate, organic ARR growth decreased from ~10.5% in Q2 to ~9% in Q3. The <a href="https://news.adobe.com/news/2026/08/adobe-mcit-and-humain-expand-partnership">newest example</a> is Saudi Arabia, where the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology and HUMAIN make Firefly and Express available to 27 million citizens and residents.</p><p><strong>Agents inside the flagship apps.</strong> The Creative Agent now works in Photoshop and Premiere, the Productivity Agent in Acrobat turns documents into reports, slides, and audio summaries, and CX Enterprise Coworker executes marketing workflows. Adobe also routes tasks to third-party AI models inside its own apps. What I like: Adobe positions Firefly as commercially safe, which matters for enterprises that publish the output. Disney (DIS) Imagineering <a href="https://news.adobe.com/news/2026/06/adobe-and-disney-imagineering-collaborate">is integrating</a> Firefly Foundry into its theme park design toolkit.</p><p><strong>Go where the documents are opened.</strong> Acrobat is now available inside ChatGPT, Chrome, Claude, Edge, and WhatsApp. Instead of waiting for users to open Acrobat, Adobe puts it inside the tools they already use. Student Spaces in Acrobat targets universities, where the next generation of business professionals learns its software.</p><p><strong>Buy the missing pieces.</strong> Semrush (closed on Apr 28) is now part of Adobe Brand Visibility - a tool that shows brands how they appear in ChatGPT, Google AI Mode, Copilot, and Perplexity. Paid customers of the brand visibility solutions doubled QoQ. Topaz Labs (an AI video and image enhancement company with more than 1 million users) is the next deal, <a href="https://www.investing.com/news/transcripts/earnings-call-transcript-adobe-tops-q3-2026-estimates-but-shares-fall-93CH-4897022">expected to close</a> in Q4.</p><p><strong>A new leadership team.</strong><span> In March, Shantanu Narayen said he would step down once the board found a successor. On Sep 03, the board chose Anil Chakravarthy, who manages the customer experience business and worldwide field operations. David Wadhwani, president of the creativity and productivity business and seen as a candidate, then said he would leave. CFO Dan Durn left on Jun 15 for Marvell (MRVL), and Steve Day is the interim CFO. As I see it, the board chose the enterprise marketing side to lead the company, and the creative side lost its leader in the same week.</span></p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-svJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6675749-878e-4070-9896-f38fbf384d7e_1200x692.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-svJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6675749-878e-4070-9896-f38fbf384d7e_1200x692.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The balance sheet moved from net cash to net debt in 9 months.</strong><span> Cash and short-term investments decreased from $6.60B </span><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/796343/000079634325000135/adbeex991q425.htm"><span>at the end of FY2025</span></a><span> to $5.64B, and borrowings increased from $6.21B to $6.36B. As a result, net cash of $0.39B became net debt of $0.72B. The Semrush deal explains most of it, since </span><strong><span>buybacks already use ~90% of FCF</span></strong><span>. Adobe paid ~$1.9B, ~4x the $471M of ARR that Semrush reported at the end of 2025. In 2025, Semrush grew revenue 18% with a 12% non-GAAP operating margin. In my view, the price is reasonable, but the deal adds growth, not margin. Worth noting that Koyfin's total debt of $6.76B also includes $0.40B of lease liabilities.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xg4L!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23a796e7-7cac-4f54-bcac-143557258e23_1200x692.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xg4L!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23a796e7-7cac-4f54-bcac-143557258e23_1200x692.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xg4L!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23a796e7-7cac-4f54-bcac-143557258e23_1200x692.png 848w, 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Debt/Equity is 57.5% against a 41.1% 5Y mean, and Debt/Capital is 36.50% against 28.57%. </span>Interest coverage based on funds from operations (FFO) is 41.6x<span> against a 55.0x mean. 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>FCF reached $10.59B</strong><span> over the last 12 months, a 40.79% margin, against an $8.05B 5Y mean. Capex is $214M, less than 1% of revenue. Operating cash flow of $2.52B was a Q3 record.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KGSn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c6dc14-5b59-4901-abe7-f9c9287213d6_1200x692.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KGSn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c6dc14-5b59-4901-abe7-f9c9287213d6_1200x692.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KGSn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c6dc14-5b59-4901-abe7-f9c9287213d6_1200x692.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Shares Outstanding and Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Adobe pays no dividend and returns cash through buybacks. </span><strong>The buyback yield is 9.41%</strong><span> against a 4.67% 5Y mean. The share count decreased from ~477M in 2021 to 397.5M. In Q3 alone, the company bought 9.5M shares for $2.23B, 92% of Q3 FCF, and $24.55B remains under the </span><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/adobe-announces-25-billion-stock-buyback-2026-04-21/"><span>April 2026 authorization</span></a><span> (~25% of the market cap). What I like: at 9.4x earnings, each dollar of buybacks retires ~2.6x more shares than at the 24.5x mean. Worth noting that past buybacks were made at much higher prices. In FY2025, Adobe bought 30.8M shares for $11.28B (~$366 per share on average), and ADBE now trades 31% below that average.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!52e1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51bd0bd3-3d9c-40ba-8322-cb21c6255c5e_1200x704.png" width="1200" height="704" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Shareholder Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Shareholder yield is 9.17%</strong><span> against a 4.42% 5Y mean. It is 0.24 points below the buyback yield, since Adobe added a small amount of debt over the last 12 months.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hM9B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc41b3467-772b-4cf8-bb3e-5bb68c4f6e5e_1200x701.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hM9B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc41b3467-772b-4cf8-bb3e-5bb68c4f6e5e_1200x701.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hM9B!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc41b3467-772b-4cf8-bb3e-5bb68c4f6e5e_1200x701.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE SBC and SBC % of Revenues, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>SBC is $2.07B<span>, 7.97% of revenue, down from ~8.9% in 2023. The buybacks are ~4.6x SBC in dollars, so the share count decreases even after the dilution. At the same time, SBC is the main reason why the FY2026 GAAP EPS target (~$18) is ~26% below the non-GAAP one.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XqTJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ddfdab-8069-4c3a-a7f9-e0a6d265540b_1200x692.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XqTJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ddfdab-8069-4c3a-a7f9-e0a6d265540b_1200x692.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XqTJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ddfdab-8069-4c3a-a7f9-e0a6d265540b_1200x692.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Expenses, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Operating costs grow faster than revenue this year. Over the last 12 months, sales and marketing were $7.15B, R&amp;D $4.69B, G&amp;A $1.92B, and cost of revenue $2.79B. </span>In Q3, non-GAAP operating expenses increased 16% YoY<span> against 13% revenue growth, and GAAP R&amp;D expenses increased 18%. As a result, the non-GAAP operating margin decreased from 46.3% to 44.0%. By my estimate, Semrush explains ~0.6 points of that, since its margin is much lower. Management targets ~45% for FY2026 against 46.2% in FY2025.</span></p><p><span>In my view, the capital allocation is </span><strong><span>disciplined but not yet proven</span></strong><span>. The FY2025 buybacks lost value, and the extra spending has created users, not yet ARR.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;8b573878-04e8-42ad-aab6-59fc75931bb8&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Uber (UBER) is the world's largest ride-hailing and delivery platform. Over 200 million people use it at least once a month, across 70+ countries. The business is in its best shape ever - bookings increased 24% in Q2, trailing free cash flow passed $10B for the first time, and ROIC reached 24%. At the sa&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Uber: 27% Consensus Growth for 20x Earnings&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-08T05:01:24.369Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KNL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4180b4e2-12b0-4cd1-9f46-bf554052123e_1200x600.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:214142661,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:10,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The cheapest high-return company in its group.</strong> ADBE trades at 9.4x forward earnings with a PEG ratio of 0.67, while Salesforce, Intuit (INTU), Autodesk (ADSK), and ServiceNow (NOW) trade at 13.3-29.3x. Adobe also has the highest ROIC and FCF margin of the 5.</p></li><li><p><strong>Two standards nobody has replaced.</strong> PDF and Photoshop have been the defaults for more than 30 years, and more than 400 billion PDFs are opened in Acrobat every year. So far, AI tools have added users to Adobe&#8217;s free products instead of taking them away.</p></li><li><p><strong>Cash flow that pays for the AI investment.</strong> $10.59B of FCF, capex of $214M, and $22.16B of contracted revenue in RPO. Adobe increased R&amp;D 18% YoY in Q3 and still bought back ~$9.4B of stock over the last 12 months.</p></li><li><p><strong>Buybacks at a low price.</strong> The diluted share count decreased 6.8% in 1 year, and $24.55B of authorization remains. Consensus expects ~9% revenue growth and ~13% EPS growth for FY2027. Most of the gap comes from buybacks.</p></li><li><p><strong>The derating has already happened.</strong> From ~50x forward earnings in 2021 to 9.4x, while ROIC increased from ~26% to 39.19%. The downside from further derating is smaller at 9x than it was at 25x.</p></li></ul><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>AI competes for the seat.</strong> If a marketing team needs 3 Creative Cloud seats instead of 10, Adobe&#8217;s ARR decreases even if its AI features are the best. That would push revenue growth below the ~9% consensus for FY2027 and make the EPS estimates in my model too high.</p></li><li><p><strong>Organic growth is slowing.</strong> Without Semrush, I estimate Q3 ARR growth at ~9% and the Q4 revenue guidance at ~8% growth. JPMorgan (JPM) <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/jpmorgan-resets-adobe-target-key-211047173.html">notes</a> that Adobe expects net new ARR to decline for the full FY2026.</p></li><li><p><strong>Margins are declining.</strong> The non-GAAP operating margin decreased 2.3 points YoY in Q3, and the subscription gross margin decreased from 91.2% to 90.4%. If compute costs keep growing faster than revenue, EPS growth will come mostly from buybacks.</p></li><li><p><strong>New management in a difficult year.</strong> A new CEO from Dec 01, the head of the creative business leaving, and an interim CFO since June. The planned Creative Cloud price changes are deferred, and the next CEO has to decide when to bring them back.</p></li><li><p><strong>Net debt and GAAP earnings.</strong> Net cash became net debt of $0.72B in 9 months. On GAAP EPS, ADBE trades at 13.9x FY2026 earnings, not 10.3x. The difference is mostly SBC, which is a real cost to shareholders even when buybacks offset the dilution.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong><span> the free products grow much faster than the revenue. ARR growth decreased to 11.2%, and ~2 points of that was bought with Semrush. Even an analyst with a positive rating says so. On Sep 11, JPMorgan </span><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/jpmorgan-resets-adobe-target-key-211047173.html"><span>cut its target</span></a><span> from $340 to $315 and kept its Buy rating. The analyst pointed to 8% RPO growth and the deferred Creative Cloud pricing. If organic ARR growth falls below 7% and stays there, my 9x Bear Case multiple is too optimistic, not too conservative. In my view, </span><strong><span>the key risk is</span></strong><span> the conversion of free users into paying ones, not the quality of the AI features. Position size should reflect the chance that I am wrong here.</span></p><h2>Competitors</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_kwy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6139f44-ab66-45b8-a978-84de1c3fe472_2520x1387.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_kwy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6139f44-ab66-45b8-a978-84de1c3fe472_2520x1387.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_kwy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6139f44-ab66-45b8-a978-84de1c3fe472_2520x1387.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE vs Competitors (Data: Koyfin, Sep 11, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>I compare Adobe with </span><strong>4 large application software companies</strong><span>. Salesforce is the leader in customer and marketing software; Autodesk has the closest business model (design software sold as subscriptions); Intuit is a quality benchmark in application software; the market treats ServiceNow as a winner of AI in software. Figma and Canva compete more directly in design, but Figma has no 5Y history as a public company, and Canva is private.</span></p><p><strong>ADBE is the cheapest of the 5 on every price multiple.</strong><span> The forward P/E is 9.4x against 13.3x for Intuit, 16.3x for Autodesk, 16.9x for Salesforce, and 29.3x for ServiceNow. Growth does not explain the gap. Consensus 5Y EPS growth is 13.92% for Adobe, 14.02% for Intuit, 16.22% for Salesforce, 16.42% for Autodesk, and 24.45% for ServiceNow. As a result, the PEG ratio is 0.67 for ADBE and 0.99-1.20 for the others. To compare, ServiceNow is expected to grow EPS ~1.8x faster and trades at ~3.1x the multiple. The weak spot is LTM revenue growth - Adobe's 12.03% is ahead of Salesforce (11.23%) only.</span></p><p><strong>On returns and margins, Adobe leads the group.</strong><span> ROIC is 39.19% against 26.54% for Autodesk, 17.20% for Intuit, 8.51% for Salesforce, and 6.55% for ServiceNow. Adobe also has the highest net margin (28.05%), FCF margin (40.79%), and EBITDA margin (37.56%). Autodesk has the higher gross margin (92.50% against 89.25%). Debt/Equity of 57.5% is in the middle: Intuit is at 44.3%, ServiceNow at 67.5%, and Salesforce and Autodesk are above 100%.</span></p><p><span>In my view, no other company here has a ROIC above 30%, an FCF margin above 40%, and a P/E below 10x at the same time. </span><strong>The next-best alternative on quality is Autodesk</strong><span>, with a 26.54% ROIC and 16.42% expected EPS growth, but at 16.3x earnings. There are reasons for the discount. Adobe has the most direct exposure to AI-generated images and video of the 5, and its revenue growth is the second lowest. The market pays ~29x earnings for ServiceNow, which it sees as a winner of AI, and ~9x for ADBE, since it sees Adobe's creative software as a loser. So far, the data supports a much smaller difference than that.</span></p><h2>Past</h2><p>Q3 FY2026 (ended August 28, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Revenue +13% to $6.76B (+12% constant currency), including ~$120M from Semrush, by my estimate</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP EPS +15% to $6.13, while non-GAAP net income increased 7%; GAAP EPS +11% to $4.62</p></li><li><p>Total ARR +11.2% to $27.50B; net new ARR $0.40B against $0.66B a year ago</p></li><li><p>Non-GAAP operating margin 44.0% against 46.3% a year ago</p></li><li><p>Operating cash flow $2.52B (a Q3 record); 9.5M shares repurchased for $2.23B</p></li><li><p>LTM: revenue $25.97B, net income $7.29B, FCF $10.59B, and ROIC 39.19%</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did ADBE fall 14% in the first 2 weeks of September?</strong> Most of the move happened before the report. The reasons, from the largest to the smallest:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The leadership change.</strong> On Sep 03, the board chose Anil Chakravarthy as the next CEO, and David Wadhwani said he would leave. ADBE fell 6.73% on Sep 04 and 3.47% on Sep 08.</p></li><li><p><strong>The Q4 revenue guidance.</strong> The $6.825B midpoint is 0.4% below the $6.85B LSEG consensus and implies ~10% growth after 13% in Q3. Adobe beat the midpoint of its own Q3 revenue guidance by $65M but raised the full-year target by only $51M, so the implied Q4 decreased by ~$14M.</p></li><li><p><strong>The organic slowdown.</strong> Without Semrush, the Q4 guidance is ~8% growth, by my estimate.</p></li><li><p><strong>The forward indicators.</strong> RPO grew 8% YoY to $22.16B, after 13% in Q2.</p></li><li><p><strong>Freemium without conversion yet.</strong> The free products bring users, but ARR growth decreased, and the planned Creative Cloud price changes are deferred.</p></li></ul><p><strong>At the same time, the report itself was solid.</strong> Revenue, EPS, and both customer groups came in above the top of Adobe&#8217;s own guidance. Revenue beat the LSEG consensus by 0.9% and EPS by 0.7%, and consensus FY2027 EPS increased from $27.50 to $27.67 the day after the report. On Sep 11, ADBE closed 1.4% higher. In my view, the leadership change explains the size of the move better than the numbers do, since the report changed the implied Q4 revenue by only ~$14M.</p><p><strong>The longer history is more important.</strong> GAAP EPS increased from $10.02 in FY2021 to $17.91 over the last 12 months, and LTM EPS growth is 11.61% against a 9.82% mean. In FY2021, GAAP EPS decreased 7% after a one-time tax benefit in FY2020, and in FY2022, it increased only 0.8%. Consensus forward EPS more than doubled over 5 years, from ~$13 to $26.89.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P37V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f950f05-0d76-4e06-934c-09bafb59084d_1197x691.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P37V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f950f05-0d76-4e06-934c-09bafb59084d_1197x691.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P37V!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f950f05-0d76-4e06-934c-09bafb59084d_1197x691.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>At the same time, the stock was a poor investment. The total return was </span><strong>-17.49% per year over 5 years</strong><span> against 12.60% for the S&amp;P 500 (VOO), and 9.41% per year over 10 years against 15.25%. The whole difference is the multiple, which decreased from ~50x forward earnings in 2021 to 9.4x.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NngE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4863bf76-4ba6-4c88-a486-35664c7e0a78_1200x696.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NngE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4863bf76-4ba6-4c88-a486-35664c7e0a78_1200x696.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NngE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4863bf76-4ba6-4c88-a486-35664c7e0a78_1200x696.png 848w, 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class="image-caption">ADBE Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2026 $26.61B (+11.96%), FY2027 $29.02B (+9.05%), FY2028 $31.47B (+8.44%) - the slowdown is already in the estimates</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $24.48 -&gt; $27.67 -&gt; $31.42 (FY2026-FY2028); the FY2026 number is inside the company&#8217;s guidance, and FY2027 EPS increased 1.0% since Aug 24</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 13.92%, against a 15.88% 5Y mean and below the -1 standard deviation band (14.52%); it decreased from ~17.6% at the end of 2024 to ~13% in early 2026. To compare, non-GAAP EPS grew ~14% per year from FY2021 ($12.48) to FY2025 ($20.94)</p></li><li><p>Analysts: 23 of 40 rate the stock Hold (4 Strong Buy, 8 Buy, 23 Hold, 4 Sell, and 1 Strong Sell), average target <strong>$279.05</strong>, +10.63% from here (the range is $190.00 to $377.07)</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: FY2026 revenue $26.576-26.626B, non-GAAP EPS $24.45-24.50, ending ARR growth 10.2% (Semrush included), and non-GAAP operating margin ~45%; Q4 revenue $6.80-6.85B and non-GAAP EPS $6.30-6.35</p></li></ul><p><strong>What has to happen for the thesis to work.</strong><span> Consensus expects ~9% revenue growth and ~13% EPS growth in FY2027. In my view, this is realistic if three things happen: organic ARR growth stays at ~8-9%, the non-GAAP operating margin stops declining at ~44%, and buybacks keep reducing the share count by ~5% a year. The buybacks are the most reliable part, since they depend on FCF, not on AI. The first two are the ones to check. My model assumes 13.92% EPS growth per year for 5 years, so all three have to hold well beyond FY2027. The next checkpoints are </span><a href="https://max.adobe.com/"><span>Adobe MAX in November</span></a><span> and the December report, which normally includes the targets for the next fiscal year and will be the first one under the new CEO.</span></p><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p><span>Current vs 5Y mean:</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Earnings: 9.4x vs 24.5x</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Sales: 3.5x vs 9.1x</span><br><span>Price/FCF: 9.5x vs 25.9x</span><br><span>Price/Book: 8.5x vs 13.7x</span><br><span>PEG: 0.67 vs 1.57</span><br><span>Forward Earnings Yield: 9.7%</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gnF1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13f4156b-d45a-46b7-aab6-2a1033e7c428_1200x690.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE P/Fwd E and P/Fwd S, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>All five multiples are below their -1 standard deviation bands.</strong><span> The forward P/E is 9.4x against a 15.2x band, Price/Sales is 3.5x against 5.6x, and Price/FCF is 9.5x against 15.6x. ADBE trades at a 9.7% forward earnings yield and a ~10.6% FCF yield. To compare, the 4 competitors trade at 13.3-29.3x forward earnings. In my view, these yields are high for a company whose revenue still grows ~11% organically.</span></p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The 5Y means include late 2021, when ADBE traded at 40-50x forward earnings, so the 24.5x P/E mean is inflated, and I do not use it as the Base Case. Also, Koyfin&#8217;s 9.4x uses next-12-months EPS (mostly FY2027, since the fiscal year ends in November). On FY2026 EPS of $24.48, the P/E is 10.3x. The exit multiples in my model start from today&#8217;s 9.4x.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oRdQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe68700db-c2f8-48c7-8da4-041fcf79b87b_1200x698.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oRdQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe68700db-c2f8-48c7-8da4-041fcf79b87b_1200x698.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oRdQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe68700db-c2f8-48c7-8da4-041fcf79b87b_1200x698.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG Ratio, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The market cut the multiple much more than the growth.</strong> The 5Y EPS growth estimate decreased from a 15.88% mean to 13.92%, while the PEG ratio decreased from a 1.57 mean to 0.67. Even at the mean growth rate, today&#8217;s P/E would be a PEG of ~0.6.</p><p><strong>What does the price already assume?</strong> With my 12% required return, ADBE needs ~15% annual EPS growth if the multiple stays at 9x. If the multiple recovers only to 12x, ~9% EPS growth is enough, and at 15x, ~4% is enough.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section. It applies the three exit multiples of my model (9x, 15x, and 20x) to the consensus forward EPS and compares the result with the price.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EaH9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c3a4aa4-3741-4698-926c-b625235cd6ee_1200x697.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EaH9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c3a4aa4-3741-4698-926c-b625235cd6ee_1200x697.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SUrW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778cdd5-90cf-4a32-bc8e-16ca4256ea6c_1920x918.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>My model projects consensus EPS 5 years forward. It takes the risk of overly optimistic estimates into account by capping future growth at </span>20% per year<span>. Here the cap does not bind. The consensus 5Y estimate is 13.92% per year, and Adobe pays no dividend, so the model uses </span><strong><span>13.92%</span></strong><span>. Starting EPS is $24.48 (FY2026), which compounds to $46.97 in FY2031.</span></p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 9x, 15x, and 20x. 9x is today&#8217;s multiple rounded down, so this case assumes the market never re-rates ADBE, even with 14% EPS growth. 15x is the -1 standard deviation band (15.2x), where ADBE traded at the end of 2025, and a PEG of ~1.1. 20x is a PEG of ~1.4 and still below the 24.5x 5Y mean, which the 2021 period inflates.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 9x): fair price <strong>$240</strong> - MoS price $168<br>Base Case (exit P/E 15x): fair price <strong>$400</strong> - MoS price $280<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 20x): fair price <strong>$533</strong> - MoS price $373</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-pK5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4576e687-fae8-479d-ace9-0aba8736ce42_1199x693.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE Accumulation Zone (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $252, ADBE trades 5% above the Bear Case fair price and <strong>37% below the Base Case</strong>. The accumulation zone is <strong>$168-240</strong>. The model is sensitive to growth. At 10% annual EPS growth instead of 13.92%, the fair prices decrease to $201/$336/$447, and ADBE would be 25% above the Bear Case. Since growth is the least certain input here, the lower end of the zone ($168) is a more conservative anchor than the Bear Case fair price. Worth noting that the Base Case of $400 is 6% above the highest street target ($377). The corridor is more optimistic than the street on the multiple, with the same consensus EPS.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (11 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $23.18B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $9.27B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $7.29B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $10.59B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: Yes (89.25%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (28.05%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: Yes (40.79%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: Yes (39.19%/61.90%/19.73%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: No (~10.5% per year)</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: No (~10% per year over the next 3 years)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: ~36% -&gt; 62%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: ~26% -&gt; 39%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: No (in line in Q3 FY2022 and Q4 FY2022)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: Yes</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: No (GAAP decline in FY2021 after a one-time tax benefit in FY2020)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (5 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($29.98B) exceed total liabilities ($18.22B) by 1.65x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: No ($0.72B of net debt, with cash and short-term investments of $5.64B against $6.36B of borrowings)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: 0.58 (5Y mean: 0.41)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: 0.37 (5Y mean: 0.29)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): 41.6x</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: 8 of 9 (not passed: higher current ratio YoY)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: Yes</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: Yes (the lowest P/E, P/S, and P/FCF among the competitors)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: Yes (narrow)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: No (-17.49% vs 12.60% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (2 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: No (0.45%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: Yes (395M vs 424M diluted)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: Yes (a director in June)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (4 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: +10.63%</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: Yes (13.92%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: ~$579 (base case: revenue growth 7.7% - below consensus, 8.8% discount rate); undervalued by ~56%</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: Yes (4.5%)</p></li></ul><h2>Verdict</h2><p>ADBE belongs in a long-term portfolio as a satellite value position, not as a core holding, until organic growth and the operating margin stabilize. The company is the standard in documents and creative software, with more than 1 billion monthly users, an 89% gross margin, a 39% ROIC, and $10.6B of FCF that goes into buybacks. ADBE is priced at 9.4x forward earnings and a PEG of 0.67, below its -1 standard deviation band on every multiple. My model uses the consensus 13.92% growth and today&#8217;s 9x multiple as the Bear Case. The fair price corridor is $240-533, and the accumulation zone is $168-240. At $252, ADBE is just above that zone. In my view, the realistic bear case is not a crash but dead money: organic ARR growth slides to ~7%, the multiple stays at 9x, and the return is mostly the buyback yield. Accumulate inside the zone with a multi-year horizon, and judge the thesis on organic ARR growth and the non-GAAP operating margin, not the share price.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TyxP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F001b3a24-f97f-4f59-922c-5326e76987a1_1414x1799.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TyxP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F001b3a24-f97f-4f59-922c-5326e76987a1_1414x1799.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ADBE One-Pager (Author&#8217;s summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Uber: 27% Consensus Growth for 20x Earnings]]></title><description><![CDATA[The market is busy pricing the robotaxi threat. Meanwhile, the business grew bookings 24% and produced its first $10B year of free cash flow.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 05:01:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KNL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4180b4e2-12b0-4cd1-9f46-bf554052123e_1200x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KNL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4180b4e2-12b0-4cd1-9f46-bf554052123e_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Uber: 27% Consensus Growth for 20x Earnings</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> Uber (UBER) is the world's largest ride-hailing and delivery platform. Over 200 million people use it at least once a month, across 70+ countries. The business is in its best shape ever - bookings increased 24% in Q2, trailing free cash flow passed $10B for the first time, and ROIC reached 24%. At the same time, the stock is down 16% over the last year, at 19.7x forward earnings for ~27% consensus EPS growth - a PEG of 0.74. The market is pricing one fear: autonomous vehicles. This post is my attempt to weigh that fear against the numbers. </span>Verdict: at $76, the stock is 20% below my Bear Case fair price, deep inside the accumulation zone. <span>My full fair price math and the accumulation zone are at the end of this post.</span></p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>The gap is simple to state. Uber's users, bookings, and free cash flow are at all-time highs, yet the stock lost 16% over the past year. Everything in this post hangs on whether the reason for that loss (the robotaxi story) deserves the price it already collected.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth remains strong where it matters.</strong> Gross bookings increased 24% YoY in Q2, to a record $58.0B, and 208 million people now use the platform monthly (+16% YoY) - the company added more first-time users over the last 12 months than in any period of the last 5 years. Uber One members now account for more than 70% of delivery bookings.</p></li><li><p><strong>The growth is not priced in.</strong> Consensus expects ~27% EPS growth per year over the next 5 years: $3.36 this year, $4.38 next, $5.46 in 2028. UBER trades at 19.7x forward earnings against that - a PEG of 0.74.</p></li><li><p><strong>Quality stopped being the question.</strong> ROIC is 23.97%, ROE is 37.16%, the FCF margin is 18.32%, and Debt/Equity fell to 0.52 against a 0.88 historical mean. The company that burned cash until 2022 now buys back 4% of its shares a year.</p></li><li><p><strong>The derating already happened.</strong> Uber&#8217;s early P/E history is useless (the company lost money until 2023), but the readable metrics agree: P/B is at 5.8x, exactly its -1 standard deviation band; P/S is below its mean; PEG is 0.74.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> Robotaxis remove the driver, and the driver is the reason an aggregator exists. Waymo already sells rides through its own app in San Francisco and Los Angeles, Tesla (TSLA) promises the same, and a vertical winner does not need Uber in the cities where it operates. My model takes this into account by capping growth at 20% against the 26.8% consensus, and by using today&#8217;s 20x multiple as the Bear Case exit - a world where the market never changes its mind about Uber. Even that scenario prices the stock above today&#8217;s quote. The math is in the Fair Price section.</p></li></ul><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Nov 03, 2026 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: ~$155B<br>Sector: Industrials<br>Industry: Ground Transportation<br>Type: <span>Large Growth<br></span>Short Interest: 2.3%</p></blockquote><p><span>Uber is a marketplace. It matches riders with drivers, hungry people with restaurants and couriers, and shippers with carriers. </span><strong><span>208 million people</span></strong><span> use the platform at least once a month, in </span><strong><span>over 70 countries</span></strong><span>. The company reports in three segments, and </span><a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2026/Uber-Announces-Results-for-Second-Quarter-2026/default.aspx"><span>Q2 shows</span></a><span> their weight: Mobility generated $29.0B of bookings (+22% YoY), Delivery $27.5B (+26%), and Freight $1.6B (+25%). Worth noting that </span><strong>delivery now grows faster than rides</strong><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X51b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92fbbae7-3a4f-4ffb-bfb1-247d28ba6301_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Income Statement, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The product range grew <strong>far beyond a taxi app</strong>. In Mobility: everything from Moto and UberX Share at the cheap end to Black and Reserve at the expensive end. In Delivery: restaurants, groceries and retail, and increasingly advertising on top of the order flow. Uber One ties the segments together, and <strong>membership reached another all-time high</strong> in Q2.</p><p>The deal history shows <strong>the same pattern for years</strong>: buy the regional leader (Careem), buy the missing piece (Postmates, Transplace), keep equity when leaving a market (Didi in 2016, Grab (GRAB) in 2018, a ~25% stake in Aurora after selling its own AV unit in 2020).</p><p>The company is managed by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/">Dara Khosrowshahi</a> (LinkedIn), CEO since 2017. He came from Expedia, took Uber public in 2019, and led the company through the turn from heavy losses to real profitability. The CFO is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/balaji-krishnamurthy-cfa/">Balaji Krishnamurthy</a> (LinkedIn). The marketplace behind the leadership grows on both sides: a record 10.2 million drivers and couriers earned over $25B on the platform in Q2, more than 400,000 merchants participate in Uber One offers (+50% YoY), and the membership program is backed by 35+ outside partners, from Delta (DAL) and Marriott (MAR) to PayPal (PYPL) and Disney+ (DIS).</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, subscribe.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p>The core question for Uber is <strong>what autonomous vehicles (AV) do to a demand aggregator</strong>. Everything else about the company is going well, and the market knows it - which is exactly why the stock trades on this one question.</p><p>The market itself keeps growing - trips on the platform increased 18% YoY to 3.9 billion in a single quarter, and Uber <strong>remains the largest player</strong> in both categories it serves. AVs today are still a small share of the market. Waymo (the clear technology leader) has a fraction of a percent of Uber&#8217;s quarterly trip count.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hJlk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa93e72d5-7a60-4a33-9502-b0e3a06c9797_2593x1498.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hJlk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa93e72d5-7a60-4a33-9502-b0e3a06c9797_2593x1498.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hJlk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa93e72d5-7a60-4a33-9502-b0e3a06c9797_2593x1498.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Operating Metrics (Uber Q2 2026 Earnings Presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Worth noting the geography. Only about </span>30% of Uber's US gross bookings<span> (and ~25% of its profits) come from the top 20 cities - exactly where robotaxis arrive first. The rest of the volume lives in suburbs, smaller towns, and 70+ countries, where the AV economics </span><strong><span>do not work yet and will not for years</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p>The demand side of ride-hailing is not linear - it spikes at 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. A robotaxi fleet has to own enough cars for the peak (and burn capital at noon) or own too few (and lose the customer). Uber&#8217;s human drivers flex with the peak. And the company answers the fear with data: in the most mature AV markets (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Phoenix), Uber reports <strong>a higher category share than a year ago</strong> - both citywide and inside the AV operating zones. So far, robotaxis are growing the category instead of eating the aggregator. In my view, that is why the most likely outcome is <strong>not replacement but partnership</strong> - the AV companies build the cars, and the aggregator with 208 million users fills them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8rfT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffbdefafb-f888-4754-8a76-8e3d191209d5_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8rfT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffbdefafb-f888-4754-8a76-8e3d191209d5_1200x800.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Revenue Estimates vs Price, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The chart above is the whole situation in one picture: revenue estimates at a record, price 22% below its high. As a result, the bear narrative needs a strong argument to justify the gap.</span></p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!672Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ef19e87-afc8-48c4-b69a-11a773f226f7_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!672Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ef19e87-afc8-48c4-b69a-11a773f226f7_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!672Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ef19e87-afc8-48c4-b69a-11a773f226f7_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Gross margin is 40.75% against a 34.7% mean, the FCF margin is 18.32% against an 8.73% mean, and the operating margin went from deeply negative to 12.13%. The one line that fell is the net income margin - it spiked above 30% in 2025, when the <a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2025/Uber-Announces-Results-for-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2024/default.aspx">one-time 2024 tax benefit</a> was inside the trailing window, and normalized to 17.34% as the benefit rolled off. The company that lost 40 cents per revenue dollar in 2022 now keeps 17 cents of it as net income.</p><p><strong>The moat is the network effect, and it can be measured.</strong> Uber has 208 million monthly users, and they take 18-19 trips per quarter on average. To compare, DoorDash (DASH) gets 12-15 orders per user and Lyft (LYFT) gets 8-9 rides over the same period. Uber has also averaged ~15% user growth since 2022 against ~10% at Lyft - and this despite the fact that Uber&#8217;s base is several times larger. More riders attract more drivers, more drivers cut wait times, shorter waits attract more riders. Every trip provides data for the pricing and matching algorithms, so the marketplace gets better as it gets bigger. That is the flywheel.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z0bR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5a040d-6ed2-479c-910d-97ba28c8f449_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z0bR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5a040d-6ed2-479c-910d-97ba28c8f449_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z0bR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf5a040d-6ed2-479c-910d-97ba28c8f449_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, and ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The returns confirm it. </span><strong>ROIC went from deeply negative to 23.97%</strong><span>, ROE to </span>37.16<span>%, ROA to </span>6.88<span>%. A marketplace at scale is a very good business.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;8ba6aa72-f601-473b-9623-e4ef3393f6e3&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: First Solar (FSLR) is the largest thin-film solar module manufacturer in the Western Hemisphere, and its Q2 2026 report was built on margin, not sales: earnings beat estimates by 43%, even as revenue fell 3.7% YoY to $1.06B. Gross margin reached 44.0% LTM, helped by Section 45X manufactur&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;First Solar: 21% 5-Year EPS Growth for 11x Forward Earnings&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-25T05:00:53.140Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AlZA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63b74f18-bddb-4e88-bd5a-a73a2a53e575_1200x600.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:211682190,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:7,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p>Mobility and Delivery <strong>share one subscription</strong>, one map, and one payment method. Uber One membership is at a record; members order more often, and ~40% of eligible members are active across both Mobility and Delivery - <strong>the subscription is the switching cost</strong> for this business. Advertising grows on top of the order flow as an almost pure-margin layer.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GxDf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feabd7d88-5298-4a1b-8e0d-096f5b4ded09_3072x1728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GxDf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feabd7d88-5298-4a1b-8e0d-096f5b4ded09_3072x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GxDf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feabd7d88-5298-4a1b-8e0d-096f5b4ded09_3072x1728.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Uber One Engagement (Uber Q2 2026 Earnings Presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>The largest deal in company history.</strong> Uber <a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2026/Uber-Publishes-Offer-Document-for-its-Takeover-Offer-for-Delivery-Hero/default.aspx">agreed to acquire</a> Delivery Hero (DHER), which expands the platform to nearly 100 markets and almost doubles the number of markets where Uber offers both rides and delivery - from 34 to 58. The company counts 50 million+ newly eligible cross-platform users, and Uber One extends to all of them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png" width="1456" height="819" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iXNG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe11d6c70-c859-4d0e-a3ee-9acabcfe487f_3072x1728.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The Delivery Hero Acquisition (Uber Q2 2026 Earnings Presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Commercialize everyone's cars, build none.</strong> Uber <a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2020/Aurora-is-acquiring-Ubers-self-driving-unit-Advanced-Technologies-Group-accelerating-development-of-the-Aurora-Driver/default.aspx">sold</a> its own autonomous unit to Aurora in 2020 (keeping ~25%), and its stated ambition now is to be the commercialization platform for autonomous mobility. The numbers behind the words: AVs are already live on Uber in 7 cities, with a target of up to 15 by year-end, and partners have committed ~120,000 vehicles to the network. The 2026 deployment roster counts more than 20 companies: Waymo, Wayve, Nuro, Zoox, WeRide, and Pony.ai on the self-driving side, with carmakers and fleet operators around them. Wayve's cars <a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2026/Wayve-and-Uber-Launch-First-Ever-Autonomous-Rides-in-the-UK-2026-VoFQI1WbQi/default.aspx"><span>received London licenses</span></a> in August and launched supervised rides in the UK in early September. The logic is simple: if many AV makers compete, the aggregator picks the terms. So Uber works to make sure many compete, including through an AV Labs team that collects millions of miles of driving data each month for its partners.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JQ6h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf5a82-f294-45c1-a862-ed3a28df200b_3072x1728.png" width="1456" height="819" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER AV Commercialization Map (Uber Q2 2026 Earnings Presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong><span>Cost discipline.</span></strong><span> Sales and marketing falls as a share of revenue year after year. Stock-based compensation fell from over 7% of revenue in 2022 to 3.5%. Capital expenditure is $308M on $55B of revenue - the company owns software, not cars. And on Sep 02, Uber </span><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/uber-technologies-uber-cuts-3-181747399.html"><span>announced</span></a><span> </span><strong>3,300 job cuts</strong><span> (10% of the workforce, the largest reduction since the pandemic) and a 20% reduction in managers. The company states the goal is fewer management layers and more resources for the delivery and AV investments.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WMNJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F796a622b-ec8e-427d-bcf5-ccd4c80141de_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WMNJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F796a622b-ec8e-427d-bcf5-ccd4c80141de_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WMNJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F796a622b-ec8e-427d-bcf5-ccd4c80141de_1200x800.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Cost Structure, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png" width="1200" height="800" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xNQd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2199dded-b286-46f4-9efd-bff7f94c1e4b_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The balance sheet is solid but not excellent. Total debt is $14.7B against $5.4B of cash; Uber has a </span><strong>net debt position of ~$9.3B</strong><span>. The trend is what matters: Debt/Equity fell to 0.52 against a 0.88 historical mean, Debt/Capital is 0.34, and FFO covers interest 22.6x against a 9.0x mean. Worth noting that the debt edged up over the last year - the balance sheet improvement comes from earnings, not from repayment.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!09HK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06ce929f-8d83-4f0b-b9b2-5e3f8e46b04c_1200x800.png" width="1200" height="800" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Leverage and Interest Coverage, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Free cash flow is the story of the decade for this company - from a trailing burn of more than $1B in early 2022 <strong>to $10B </strong>over the last 12 months. Capex is minimal, so operating cash and free cash are almost the same number.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_rl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80c61670-0f6b-40b2-98c6-97e853d85baf_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_rl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80c61670-0f6b-40b2-98c6-97e853d85baf_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_rl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80c61670-0f6b-40b2-98c6-97e853d85baf_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Free Cash Flow, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>There is no dividend. Instead, Uber buys back stock: $510M in Q2 alone, with a stated plan of directing <strong>roughly half of free cash flow to repurchases</strong>. The diluted share count declined ~4% YoY, and the trailing buyback yield is 4.2%. With SBC down to 3.5% of revenue, the buyback is real: it reduces the count instead of hiding dilution.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRDt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5d027d3-f0eb-461d-9b40-02c929cd61cb_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRDt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5d027d3-f0eb-461d-9b40-02c929cd61cb_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRDt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5d027d3-f0eb-461d-9b40-02c929cd61cb_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Shares Outstanding vs Buyback Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Worth mentioning also the Q2 exception. Buybacks were smaller than usual because <strong>~$4B went into a ~37% economic interest in Delivery Hero</strong> - the first step of the full acquisition, with the rest funded through existing liquidity and debt, and closing targeted for the second half of 2027. Management states gross leverage stays below 2x through the deal.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mn36!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1b821e3-d8ab-4129-9a5b-76a34130903b_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mn36!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1b821e3-d8ab-4129-9a5b-76a34130903b_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mn36!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1b821e3-d8ab-4129-9a5b-76a34130903b_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Stock-Based Compensation, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The network effect.</strong> 200 million users taking 18-19 trips a quarter - the highest engagement in the industry, and it reinforces itself.</p></li><li><p><strong>Asset-light economics.</strong> $308M of capex on $55B of revenue. Uber owns the marketplace, while drivers own the cars.</p></li><li><p><strong>The cash machine.</strong> Trailing FCF passed $10B for the first time, an 18.3% margin, and a buyback that retires 4% of the shares annually.</p></li><li><p><strong>Diversification.</strong> Two large segments plus freight, 70+ countries, and only ~30% of US bookings from the top 20 cities. A robotaxi launch in one place does not touch most of the business.</p></li><li><p><strong>The data flywheel.</strong> Billions of trips provide data for pricing and matching algorithms that competitors cannot replicate at smaller scale - and that AV companies will need.</p></li></ul><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The AV question.</strong> Waymo and Tesla can build their own demand apps and bypass the aggregator. The Waymo relationship is already cooling: the exclusive partnerships in Austin and Atlanta <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/24/uber-and-waymo-to-end-exclusivity-arrangement-in-atlanta-and-austin.html">expire</a> in the first half of 2028, and the two companies lobby for opposite regulatory frameworks.</p></li><li><p><strong>Regulation.</strong> The business model depends on drivers being contractors, not employees. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_22">California&#8217;s Proposition 22</a> went Uber&#8217;s way, but there are many jurisdictions, and one unfavorable ruling can reprice the whole cost structure.</p></li><li><p><strong>GAAP noise.</strong> Uber&#8217;s stakes in Didi, Grab, and Aurora swing reported earnings every quarter. In Q2 alone, revaluations added a $1.6B pre-tax benefit - GAAP EPS came in at $1.17 against $0.81 Non-GAAP. Trailing EPS of $4.58 is inflated the same way, so I use consensus EPS everywhere in this post.</p></li><li><p><strong>Low switching costs.</strong> A rider with two apps installed pays whoever is cheaper. Uber One softens this, but the platform still has to win on price and wait time every single day.</p></li><li><p><strong>Ambitions cost money.</strong> Uber plans to commit over $10B (equity stakes, infrastructure, and vehicle offtake commitments) to bring AVs to market, and the Delivery Hero acquisition adds debt to the balance sheet on top. Both strain the asset-light story - the company <a href="https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2026/Uber-Announces-Results-for-Second-Quarter-2026/default.aspx">states</a> it is evaluating financing structures with third-party capital providers for the AV deployments.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong><span> if Waymo proves the vertical model in the top places, Uber's pricing power in its densest, most profitable markets erodes first - and the market will not wait for the suburbs to confirm it.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/uber-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Competitors</h2><p>The competitor set depends on the segment. In US ride-hailing, it is Lyft; in delivery, it is DoorDash and Instacart (CART); internationally, it is Didi, Grab, and Bolt; in the AV scenario, potentially Waymo and Tesla. I made the comparison in numbers.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6o0z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50324aea-3448-4577-b613-49cca7c72a59_2063x1158.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6o0z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50324aea-3448-4577-b613-49cca7c72a59_2063x1158.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6o0z!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50324aea-3448-4577-b613-49cca7c72a59_2063x1158.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER vs Competitors (Data: Koyfin, Sep 04, 2026)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>DoorDash is the one real operational rival.</strong> Consensus expects 45% EPS growth from DoorDash over the next 5 years against Uber&#8217;s 27%, and charges 34.6x forward earnings against Uber&#8217;s 19.7x. On PEG, the two are almost identical: 0.77 against 0.74. The difference is what the buyer gets today. Uber trades at 15.3x free cash flow with a 23.97% ROIC; DoorDash trades at 37.1x free cash flow with a 6.27% ROIC. At the same price per unit of growth, Uber is the one that already produces the cash and the returns.</p><p><strong>Lyft looks like the cheapest stock in the table.</strong> The 9.2x P/E comes with negative expected EPS growth over the next 5 years, and the PEG of 2.55 is the worst in the set - the multiple is low because the earnings are expected to decline. The 42.32% net income margin with a 64.21% ROIC is not operational either - in Q4 2025, Lyft released the valuation allowance on its deferred tax assets and booked a $2.9B one-time benefit. The 0.69% EBITDA margin shows the operating reality. Uber recorded the same kind of benefit in 2024, so I treat both the same way and look at cash instead. On cash, Lyft is genuinely cheap at 5.9x P/FCF, but cheap with declining earnings is a value case, not a growth case.</p><p><strong>Instacart is the cheapest per unit of growth.</strong> A PEG of 0.47 with a 72.58% gross margin is the best-looking line in the table. But Instacart is a one-category company, and both Uber and DoorDash are pushing into groceries with much larger user bases. The 11.4x multiple prices in the risk that the growth does not survive that competition. Grab is the opposite case - the market pays 3.0x forward sales for Southeast Asian growth with a negative FCF margin and a 1.65% ROIC today. Worth noting that Uber holds equity stakes in both Grab and Didi, so the international competition is partly owned by Uber itself.</p><p>In my view, Uber is the only company in the set that combines expected EPS growth above 25%, a ROIC above 20%, and a free cash flow multiple below 20x. DoorDash has the growth without today&#8217;s returns, Lyft has the cash without the growth, and Instacart&#8217;s discount is the price of competing with the first two. Debt changes nothing here: Debt/Equity ranges from 1.3% at Instacart to 51.9% at Uber, and every company in the table generates positive free cash flow against it.</p><h2>Past</h2><p>The last report (Q2 2026) was strong: gross bookings reached a record $58.0B, <strong>+24% YoY</strong> (+22% in constant currency), once again above the high end of the company&#8217;s own outlook. Revenue grew 12% to $14.2B - the gap versus bookings comes from business model changes that cut ~8 points off reported revenue growth. Adjusted EBITDA increased 33% to $2.8B (4.9% of bookings), and Non-GAAP EPS grew 35% to $0.81. The only soft spot was Brazil, the highest-volume market on the platform - a driver shortage in Moto cost ~2 points of global trips growth. The trailing 12 months: revenue $55.2B, net income $9.6B, FCF $10.1B.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zex-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa92ac43-8cc0-4539-b5f3-4746d8c2590f_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zex-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa92ac43-8cc0-4539-b5f3-4746d8c2590f_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zex-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa92ac43-8cc0-4539-b5f3-4746d8c2590f_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The EPS chart tells the whole 5-year arc: </span><strong>from -$5 in 2022 to +$4.58 today</strong><span>. There is no smoothing in that line - the whole swing happened in about 30 months.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D5Yg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda2231ca-4ae9-4785-96f7-8511e5068d84_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D5Yg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda2231ca-4ae9-4785-96f7-8511e5068d84_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D5Yg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda2231ca-4ae9-4785-96f7-8511e5068d84_1200x800.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER vs VOO: Total Return CAGR, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>A 14.8% 5Y CAGR against 12.8% for the S&amp;P 500 (VOO) - ahead, but not by what the business did. The last year explains it: -16%, driven not by results but by the AV narrative. The selling started with the February guidance (19% bookings growth at the midpoint - a deceleration) and accelerated on every Waymo headline since. </span><strong>Why did the stock fall on strong numbers?</strong><span> Because the market is not pricing this year. It is pricing the terminal value of an aggregator in a robotaxi world.</span></p><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png" width="829" height="218" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:218,&quot;width&quot;:829,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:23700,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/214142661?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5kzf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07b96ec3-eeac-42eb-a035-ed5943dc28e2_829x218.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Revenue consensus: $57.96B this year (+11.42%), $66.84B in 2027 (+15.32%), $76.22B in 2028 (+14.05%).</p></li><li><p>EPS consensus: $3.36 -&gt; $4.38 -&gt; $5.46 (+37.34%, +30.2%, +24.56%).</p></li><li><p>The 5Y forward EPS growth estimate is 26.8%.</p></li><li><p>Analysts: 51 cover the stock; the average rating is Strong Buy, the average target is $101.81 (range $70-150), which is +34% above the current price.</p></li><li><p>Company guidance for Q3: gross bookings of $58.25-60.25B (+18-22% constant currency, with ~1 point of currency headwind) and Non-GAAP EPS of $0.84-0.88 (+28-35%), which translates to Adjusted EBITDA of $2.86-2.96B. The midpoint implies a step down from Q2&#8217;s pace - that deceleration, not the results, is what the market keeps selling.</p></li></ul><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br>P/E (NTM): 19.7x (mean not usable)<br>P/S (NTM): 2.5x vs 2.7x<br>P/FCF (LTM): 15.3x (mean not usable)<br>P/B (LTM): 5.8x vs 8.7x (at the -1 SD band)<br>PEG (NTM): 0.74 vs 0.72<br>EV/EBITDA (NTM): 13.0x</p></blockquote><p><strong><span>Analyst&#8217;s note:</span></strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Uber&#8217;s 5Y valuation means are mostly unusable. The company was unprofitable until 2023, so the P/E &#8220;mean&#8221; of 41x and the P/FCF mean of 50x average in the loss-making years - I do not use them anywhere in my model. And I use the forward P/E, not the trailing 17x: trailing GAAP earnings include revaluations of the Didi, Grab, and Aurora stakes, so the consensus $3.36 for this year is the honest denominator. The metrics that survive the history check: P/S, P/B, and PEG.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lllJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2e82878-31f8-4a59-99a5-f992e7b10262_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lllJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2e82878-31f8-4a59-99a5-f992e7b10262_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lllJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2e82878-31f8-4a59-99a5-f992e7b10262_1200x800.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER EPS Growth Estimate and PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The readable metrics agree with each other: P/S slightly below its mean, P/B exactly at its -1 standard deviation band, PEG at 0.74. For a company growing bookings 24%, <strong>none of that reads expensive</strong>.</p><p>One chart frames this whole section:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png" width="1200" height="800" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyLT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbccf0431-7873-48c3-93c9-d7619cb890d5_1200x800.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Fair Value Corridor (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png" width="1456" height="691" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MNee!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2df232-c9a5-4ea1-9da5-9518b6eb582b_1909x906.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Fair Price Model and Projections (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The model takes the consensus EPS for this year ($3.36) and grows it for 5 years. Consensus says 26.8% a year, but <strong>my model caps growth at 20%</strong> (the cap is a rule). The result is multiplied by three exit multiples and discounted back.</p><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are <strong>20x/25x/30x</strong>: the Bear Case is today&#8217;s multiple (19.7x, rounded to 20x) - a market that never re-rates Uber; the Base Case is 25x - a PEG of 1.25 on my capped growth, since the polluted historical mean gives me nothing to anchor on; the Bull Case is 30x - a PEG of 1.5, the most my own rules allow me to pay for any stock.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 20x): fair price: <strong>$95</strong>; MoS price: <strong>$66</strong><br>Base Case (exit P/E 25x): fair price: <strong>$119</strong>; MoS price: <strong>$83</strong><br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price: <strong>$142</strong>; MoS price: <strong>$100</strong></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER Accumulation Zone (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $76, the stock is <strong>20% below the Bear Case fair price</strong> - deep inside the accumulation zone, and below even the Base Case MoS price of $83. To say it plainly, the current quote assumes less than a never-re-rated multiple on a growth rate cut by a quarter.</p><p><strong>Verdict:</strong><span> UBER belongs in a long-term portfolio as a large-cap growth holding. </span>The business is the largest ride-hailing and delivery aggregator in the world: 208 million users, an 18% FCF margin, and a buyback of 4% of the shares a year.<span> The stock trades at 19.7x forward earnings with a PEG of 0.74, and P/B is at its -1 standard deviation band. My corridor is $95-142, and the accumulation zone is everything up to the Bear Case fair price of $95; at $76, the price is 20% below it. The realistic bear case here is not a crash but dead money - the multiple stays where it is while every Waymo headline resets the AV debate, and the stock stays cheap until the terminal-value question gets an answer. Buy with a multi-year horizon, and judge the thesis on bookings growth and the FCF margin, not the share price.</span></p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (11 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $22.5B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $6.7B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $9.6B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $10.1B</p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (40.75%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (17.34%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (18.32%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mostly</mark> (23.97%/37.16%/6.88%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: ~18% per year</p></li><li><p>Revenue Growth Forecast: ~14% per year over the next 3 years</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: negative in 2022 -&gt; 37.16%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: negative in 2022 -&gt; 23.97%</p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>No</span></mark><span> (2025: -0.05%)</span></p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>No</span></mark><span> (2025: -11.71%)</span></p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY for the last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (losses until 2023)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (4 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets exceed total liabilities by 1.76x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: <mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> ($14.7B of debt against $5.4B of cash)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.52</mark> (historical mean: 0.88)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.34</mark></p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">22.6x</mark></p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>6 of 9</span></mark><span> (not passed: Higher ROA yoy, Higher Current Ratio yoy, and Higher Asset Turnover yoy)</span></p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; mean: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (on the usable metrics: P/S, P/B, PEG)</p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: <mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mixed</mark> (below DASH and GRAB, above LYFT and CART)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (narrow, network effects)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (14.8% vs 12.8% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (1 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: <mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (3.95%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (-4%)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>No</span></mark><span> (</span>the CFO bought in February<span>)</span></p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (4 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+34%</mark> (average target $101.81)</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (26.8%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">undervalued by 12%</mark> <span>(86.85)</span></p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (2.3%)</p></li></ul><h2>Watchlist Note</h2><p>The largest ride-hailing and delivery aggregator. 19.7x fwd earnings, PEG 0.74, P/B at -1SD; 5Y means unusable (losses until 2023). Consensus +27%/yr, model capped at 20% -&gt; fair value $95/$119/$142, zone up to $95 - price deep inside, below Base MoS $83. Watch: bookings growth &gt;= 20%, FCF margin &gt;= 15%, Waymo/AV headlines, gig-worker rulings. Next report: Nov 03 (estimated).</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jwUP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c935de2-3ce0-4655-8524-bcfb7768d4c8_1414x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jwUP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c935de2-3ce0-4655-8524-bcfb7768d4c8_1414x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jwUP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c935de2-3ce0-4655-8524-bcfb7768d4c8_1414x2000.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">UBER One-Pager (Author&#8217;s summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Watchlist #001: 10 Stocks I Would Buy at the Right Price]]></title><description><![CDATA[The first public version of my watchlist: 10 companies that passed every quality test and wait for their price.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-001</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-watchlist-001</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 05:01:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d0d24d23-cbcd-4d4f-937a-f9d2d35bd20e_1080x1080.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> This is the watchlist I promised in </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-002"><span>Portfolio #002</span></a><span>. 10 companies passed the same quality tests as my portfolio stocks. Each entry has Bear/Base/Bull fair prices, the buy zone where the math works without any re-rating, and a note on how I set the exit multiples. 6 of the 10 are in their buy zones right now. Every zone gets rechecked in the monthly portfolio issues.</span></p><h2>Why trust these zones</h2><p>The fair price models here are the same ones I publish in <a href="https://longtermpick.com/archive">my analyses</a>, so their track record is public. The <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026">August 4 Microsoft analysis</a> put the fair price at $567 with the stock at ~$457 - three weeks later, the stock was $514. The <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/nvidia-analysis-2026">July 28 NVIDIA analysis</a> identified an accumulation zone of $181-258 while the market argued about peak AI demand - the stock is $217 today, still inside that zone, and the quarter reported since then showed +106% revenue growth. And the honest side of the same coin: the <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis">Reddit analysis</a> identified a $149-213 accumulation range at a $160 price - the stock is $145 now, below the bottom of it. I also bought <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026">On Holding</a> inside its zone at ~$38 - the stock is below $28. Zones are not a prediction of the bottom - they mark the price where the math stops needing optimism.</p><p>Worth noting that the same screens that feed this watchlist hold <strong>5 of my 9 portfolio stocks</strong> today. The list below is not a separate universe - it is the queue my next buys come from.</p><h2>How names enter and leave this list</h2><p><span>A name enters in two steps. The </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest#%C2%A7the-watchlist"><span>screens</span></a><span> find the numbers - the same quality tests my portfolio stocks pass. Then I review the business myself and build the fair price model you see in every entry. A screen finds numbers - it does not find moats. I try to find moats in my detailed analyses.</span></p><p><span>To be clear about what this list is not: a watchlist entry is not a finished deep dive. The full analysis comes before any buy - that rule stays. A name leaves through two doors only: I buy it, and it moves to the portfolio; or a quality test breaks, and I remove it with the reason stated. </span>A name never leaves for going up in price.<span> A stock that ran away from its zone simply waits in the list. The list holds </span><strong><span>15 names at most</span></strong><span>, because every name has a live fair price model that must be refreshed after every report. The zones get rechecked in every monthly portfolio issue.</span></p><h2><span>Explanations</span></h2><p>The method is the one from Portfolio #002: consensus EPS, grown for 5 years at consensus growth plus the dividend yield (capped at 20% in total), multiplied by three exit P/E multiples and discounted at 12% a year. Fair price = the Base Case. Buy zone = the Bear Case fair price.</p><p>The exit multiples are never invented numbers. Each one is a real anchor from the stock&#8217;s own history: today&#8217;s multiple, the -1 standard deviation band, the 5Y mean, or the +1 standard deviation band. <strong>The Bear Case is the pessimism that already happened</strong> - the lower of today&#8217;s multiple and the -1 standard deviation band, so the buy zone assumes no recovery at all. <strong>The Base Case is the norm I actually believe</strong> - the 5Y mean, unless the mean is poisoned by a bubble or pre-profit years. Then I step down to the next anchor I trust, and I say so in the entry. <strong>The Bull Case is the most I would pay myself</strong> - and it never exceeds 30x, because at my 20% growth cap, 30x is a PEG of 1.5, the ceiling from the <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">Manifest</a>. When two multiples land next to each other, that is not a rounding accident. It is the model saying the derating has already happened, or that the ceiling already binds.</p><h2><strong>NFLX</strong></h2><blockquote><p>Next earnings: Oct 16 (estimated)<br>Fair price: $122<br>Buy zone: up to $117<br>Curr Price/Fair Price: 0.68 (<mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">32% undervalued</mark>)<br>PEG: 1.10</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ut-A!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea1751bc-5c90-4220-ba65-32533390c6a3_1918x917.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">NFLX Fair Price Model and Projections (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Netflix (NFLX) is the largest paid streaming service in the world, with 325 million subscribers and the biggest TV entertainment audience both in the US and internationally. The model is on-demand series, films, and documentaries, without regular live or sports. The advantage is economies of scale - one content budget spreads over a base no competitor matches. And since 2022, advertising has grown as a second revenue stream, and the company expects it to roughly double this year.</p><p>The stock fell 33% over the last year while consensus still expects <strong>~21% EPS</strong> growth over the next 5 years. NFLX is at 23.3x forward earnings - below its -1 standard deviation band (24.6x) and far below its 33.6x 5Y mean. My exit multiples are <strong>23x/24x/30x</strong>: today&#8217;s multiple, the -1 standard deviation band, and my 30x bull ceiling. At $83, the stock is 29% below the Bear Case fair price - the scenario where the multiple never recovers at all.</p><p>What I watch: the 5Y EPS estimate. It already came down from a 25.7% mean to 21.2%; my model caps growth at 20% anyway, so the fair prices move only if the estimate falls below that.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Netflix&#8217;s 5Y mean P/E of 33.6x includes the 2021 period at 55-60x forward earnings. In my view, that mean is inflated, so the model does not use it. The Base Case takes the -1 standard deviation band instead, and the Bull Case is capped at 30x - at my 20% growth cap, that is a PEG of 1.5, the most I allow myself to pay for any stock.</em></p></blockquote><p>Below is the list of the other 9 entries. 5 of them are in their buy zones right now. The cheapest one trades at a PEG of 0.37, the deepest fell 56% in a year, and one is on the list precisely because I refuse to buy it at today&#8217;s price. Each entry has the fair price model, the buy zone, and the one thing that would change my mind. At the end - the whole list in one comparison table.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Portfolio #002: August + Fair Prices for All 9 Stocks]]></title><description><![CDATA[The August plan checked line by line, and an updated fair price model for all 9 stock positions. Data as of August 30, 2026.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-002</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-002</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 05:01:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/501d6c8d-1155-4508-8739-36e63c4b2e16_1200x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> August: </span>+2.50%<span> vs +2.88% for the S&amp;P 500. Since December 2021, the portfolio is up </span>+99.68%<span> vs +66.58% for the index. The August plan from #001 was executed: I sold more SGOV, added to </span>NVDA<span> the day after its report, and started a small </span>RDDT<span> position. One trade was not in the plan (</span>UBER<span>), and I explain it below. Treasuries went from 40% to </span>33%<span> of the portfolio. This month, every stock position has an updated fair price model, and </span>6 of 9 stocks are in or at their buy zones<span>. The full math is in the Quick overview at the end of this post.</span></p><h2>The track record</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tTd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e51e33b-3a1e-45a8-9b22-462bef68f48b_1848x694.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tTd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e51e33b-3a1e-45a8-9b22-462bef68f48b_1848x694.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tTd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e51e33b-3a1e-45a8-9b22-462bef68f48b_1848x694.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Total Return vs Benchmarks, as of August 30, 2026 (Portseido)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Since inception in December 2021, the portfolio compounds at </span><strong>15.71% a year</strong><span> - ahead of the S&amp;P 500 (11.37%), QQQ (14.39%), VUG (14.46%), and SPYG (14.49%). Beta is 0.95; the max drawdown is -19%. The method is unchanged and documented in </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001">issue #001</a><span>: TWR returns via Portseido, percentages and not dollars, 4 benchmarks.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8U9H!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1dd5219-7c5a-4fe9-9275-c28f97a932df_966x845.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8U9H!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1dd5219-7c5a-4fe9-9275-c28f97a932df_966x845.png 424w, 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YTD, I remain behind: +4.79% vs +12.44%. The reason is the same as in #001: a large treasury block while the market keeps running. That block got smaller in August - the details are below.</span></p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>All numbers in this issue are as of August 30, 2026 - the last trading day included is Friday, August 28.</em></p></blockquote>
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I looked into whether the market or the earnings are telling the truth.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 05:00:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AlZA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63b74f18-bddb-4e88-bd5a-a73a2a53e575_1200x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AlZA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63b74f18-bddb-4e88-bd5a-a73a2a53e575_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">First Solar: 21% 5-Year EPS Growth for 11x Forward Earnings</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> First Solar (FSLR) is the largest thin-film solar module manufacturer in the Western Hemisphere, and its Q2 2026 report was built on margin, not sales: earnings beat estimates by 43%, even as revenue fell 3.7% YoY to $1.06B. Gross margin reached 44.0% LTM, helped by Section 45X manufacturing tax credits and a growing mix of US-made modules. The stock trades at 10.8x forward earnings and a PEG ratio of 0.51, with $1.5B of LTM free cash flow and roughly $1.5B of net cash on the balance sheet. Strong backlog through 2030. Even so, the stock is down 14% YTD on tariff uncertainty, global module oversupply, and its dependence on US clean-energy policy. Verdict: the earnings power is improving faster than the price. My full fair price math and the accumulation zone are at the end of this post.</span></p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>First Solar <a href="https://investor.firstsolar.com/financials/quarterly-results/default.aspx">reported second-quarter 2026 results</a> with earnings 43% above consensus and a fourth straight quarter of margin expansion, even as revenue fell 3.7% YoY. The stock is still down 14% YTD. Below are my main points of view.</p><ul><li><p><strong>The growth is in earnings and backlog, not yet in revenue.</strong> The contracted backlog stands at 45.1 gigawatts, worth $13.6B through 2030, and consensus expects EPS to grow from $17.60 in FY2026 to $23.09 in FY2027 and $29.19 in FY2028, even as reported revenue guidance for 2026 is roughly flat at $4.9-5.2B.</p></li><li><p><strong>The market is not paying for that growth.</strong> Consensus expects a 21.3% EPS growth rate over the next 5 years, and the PEG ratio is now 0.51 - the cheapest of its solar-equipment competitors that are still growing at all.</p></li><li><p><strong>The margin profile keeps improving.</strong> 44.0% gross margin LTM, 32.5% net margin, 16.5% ROIC, $1.5B of FCF, and roughly $1.5B of net cash - both margins are the highest among its competitors.</p></li><li><p><strong>The multiple has compressed.</strong> The forward P/E is 10.8x against a 30.4x 5Y mean (inflated by 2022-23&#8217;s near-zero earnings), even as EPS estimates for 2026 through 2028 keep increasing.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> a $60-80M net tariff headwind assumed for 2026, a pending Section 232 investigation that could affect close to 1.8 gigawatts of finished Southeast Asia capacity, intense competition from Chinese crystalline-silicon manufacturers, and a 2026 guidance built on $2.10-2.19B of Section 45X tax credits. My model takes this into account. Even then, the stock trades below my Bear Case fair price.</p></li></ul><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p><span>Next Earnings: 27 Oct 2026 (estimated)</span><br><span>Market Cap: $24.24B</span><br><span>Sector: Information Technology<br>Industry: Semiconductors and Semi-Equipment</span><br><span>Type: Mid Core<br>Employees: ~7,900</span><br><span>Short Interest: 9.20%</span></p></blockquote><p><span>First Solar, Inc. is headquartered in Tempe, Arizona, and is the </span><strong><span>world's largest</span></strong><span> thin-film photovoltaic (PV) solar module manufacturer and the largest PV solar module manufacturer in the Western Hemisphere. It was founded in 1999 and incorporated in 2006. </span>Unlike most of the solar industry, which relies on crystalline silicon, First Solar uses a proprietary cadmium telluride (CdTe) thin-film technology<span> - a process that represents </span><strong><span>only about 5%</span></strong><span> of the global solar module market. Worth noting that this is also why the stock is filed under Semiconductors and Semiconductor Equipment rather than a solar-specific industry: a CdTe module is, </span><strong><span>technically, a semiconductor product</span></strong><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a3TQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff75d51a6-2493-4c1a-b39e-dcadc2495627_3000x1789.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a3TQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff75d51a6-2493-4c1a-b39e-dcadc2495627_3000x1789.png 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The company designs, manufactures, and sells solar modules that convert sunlight into electricity, and it provides operations and maintenance (O&amp;M) services to system owners after installation. </span><strong>Modules are its only reportable segment.</strong></p><p><span>Production runs across 4 countries: the United States, India, Malaysia, and Vietnam. The international lines are being scaled back as manufacturing </span><strong><span>shifts toward the US</span></strong><span>. Domestic capacity is expected to reach about 14 gigawatts once current expansions are complete, and the company sells almost entirely to project developers, system integrators, and utility-scale renewable energy operators, with an estimated 30% historical share of the US utility-scale solar market.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, become a subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p>Global solar module manufacturing is a scaled, commoditized industry. <strong>Production is heavily concentrated in Asia</strong>, with China alone responsible for roughly two-thirds of global capacity, and crystalline silicon is the dominant technology at about 95% of the market. Falling module prices have made solar economically competitive against traditional generation almost everywhere, but the module makers themselves have historically captured little of that value - the segment has a long history of thin and volatile returns on invested capital.</p><p>First Solar is outside that commodity race in two ways. First, its cadmium telluride technology is a <strong>genuinely different manufacturing process</strong>, with a simpler supply chain and no dependence on polysilicon pricing. Second, and more important, it is <strong>the largest domestic solar manufacturer</strong> in a market that US trade and tax policy has increasingly closed to low-cost imports. The <a href="https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12809">Section 45X manufacturing credit</a> pays roughly $0.17 per watt for US-made modules, and FSLR domestic factories ran at 98% utilization in <a href="https://investor.firstsolar.com/events-and-presentations/events/event-details/2026/First-Solar-Q2-2026-Financial-Results/default.aspx">Q2 2026</a>.</p><p>The bear case says this is a policy-dependent position that disappears once incentives fade, or global oversupply pushes prices down again. <strong>The contracted backlog is the counterargument</strong>: 45.1 gigawatts worth $13.6B through 2030, with US production substantially booked through 2028. That is more revenue visibility than most cyclical manufacturers get, even if the multiple the market pays for it should stay modest.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-9L1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4eaeed6e-0180-4a4a-98ad-7b602f9cf83f_1398x840.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-9L1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4eaeed6e-0180-4a4a-98ad-7b602f9cf83f_1398x840.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>As I see it, First Solar <strong>does not have</strong> a structural moat in the traditional sense. Solar modules are a commoditized product, and crystalline-silicon competitors can copy a price cut quickly. <strong>What protects the business today is policy, not technology</strong>: trade barriers and the Section 45X credit have fenced off the domestic market from the low-cost Chinese supply that dominates the rest of the world.</p><p>What still separates First Solar from its competitors is that its cadmium telluride process is a genuinely different technology - simpler, with a shorter supply chain, and no dependence on polysilicon pricing. That gives it a lower carbon footprint and stronger yields in hot, humid climates, but <strong>it does not give it a durable cost advantage</strong>. On a pre-credit basis, FSLR cost per watt runs modestly above its crystalline-silicon competitors. Without the 45X credit, the moat argument would be much weaker.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>I am calling this a no-moat business on purpose, even though the balance sheet and the backlog are genuinely strong. A moat has to survive a change in policy, and First Solar&#8217;s current advantage mostly does not.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Contracted demand is the more durable protection.</strong><span> The backlog runs 45.1 gigawatts and $13.6B through 2030, and US production is substantially booked through 2028. Developers pay a premium for that certainty: the average selling price on new US bookings was $0.36 per watt in Q2 2026, with room to charge more through so-called technology adjusters as CuRe and perovskite improvements roll out.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!afZY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e1650dc-7e33-4771-a5b1-0d2596223cce_2995x1785.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!afZY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e1650dc-7e33-4771-a5b1-0d2596223cce_2995x1785.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Efficiency: ROIC, ROE, ROA, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The returns on capital </span><strong><span>confirm the improvement</span></strong><span>, even without a classic moat. ROIC is 16.5% against a 14.0% 5Y mean, ROE is 18.5% against 16.2%, and ROA is 8.6% against 7.3%. </span><strong>All three increased sharply from below 6% in 2023</strong><span> to today's levels, as the tax-credit-driven margin expansion flowed straight to the bottom line. Among its solar-equipment competitors, only Nextpower (NXT) does better on this measure, at 23.6% ROIC; Enphase (ENPH), Sunrun (RUN), and SolarEdge (SEDG) are all in the mid-single digits or negative.</span></p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p>Here, I would like to define four choices that create the strategy. First, <strong>US-first manufacturing</strong>. Domestic capacity is on track to reach about 14 gigawatts once current expansions are complete, and a new finishing facility in South Carolina will let the company complete modules started at its international plants inside the United States. Management gives priority to integrated US factories when allocating production, which reduces dependence on short-cycle international demand.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png 424w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lJks!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73b0dfd3-e8c9-4d3c-8822-faa502673ebf_1021x614.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Corporate Responsibility (Company&#8217;s presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Second, <strong>contract discipline over volume</strong>. Management continues to focus on pricing, contract quality, and balanced risk terms rather than booking volume for its own sake. The result is the backlog of 45.1 gigawatts - demand from large corporate energy users and data-center customers adds to that pipeline.</p><p>Third, <strong>a technology roadmap built around CuRe and perovskites</strong>. FSLR has started customer notifications tied to CuRe contract adjusters, the first step in converting performance improvements into future revenue. Management says factory and field results have exceeded expectations across several climates. The company is also advancing a perovskite program, with a Series 6 pilot line expected in the first half of 2027 - the next differentiation wave once crystalline silicon closes the current efficiency gap.</p><p>Fourth, <strong>capacity as the only real margin lever</strong>. Roughly 80% of operating expenses are fixed, and long-term pricing power on the panels themselves is limited, so further capacity growth (not price increases) is what expands operating margins from here. Every gigawatt added toward the 14-gigawatt US target flows mostly to the bottom line once it is running.</p><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png" width="3000" height="1785" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v0nU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1aac41-f4c2-4b60-8f22-8801cfe0f88c_3000x1785.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The balance sheet is </span><strong><span>very conservative</span></strong><span>. Total assets are $13.4B against $10.3B of equity and just $3.1B of liabilities. </span>Cash and short-term investments are $1.7B against only $194M of total debt<span> - net cash of roughly $1.5B. FFO interest coverage is 55.8x against a 43.5x 5Y mean. </span><strong>Debt/Equity is just 1.9%</strong><span>, next to 51.9% for Enphase, 98.9% for SolarEdge, and 292.5% for Sunrun. Whatever tariffs or module pricing do next, First Solar is not a solvency risk.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRyK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4c0da8-4df1-4a0c-900f-902b9c560c4b_3000x1784.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRyK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4c0da8-4df1-4a0c-900f-902b9c560c4b_3000x1784.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qRyK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e4c0da8-4df1-4a0c-900f-902b9c560c4b_3000x1784.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR FFO Coverage, Debt/Equity and Debt/Capital, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>FCF only turned reliably positive in 2025, after years of funding capacity expansion from the balance sheet. LTM FCF is $1.5B, a 27.9% margin, against a 5Y mean of -6.1%. The company was still burning cash as recently as 2023 and 2024 while it built out its US and India capacity. There is </span>no dividend and effectively no buyback<span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LK6w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F598f1ff2-b57a-415d-b72a-2bf3da1f2da9_3000x1795.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LK6w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F598f1ff2-b57a-415d-b72a-2bf3da1f2da9_3000x1795.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LK6w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F598f1ff2-b57a-415d-b72a-2bf3da1f2da9_3000x1795.png 848w, 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R&amp;D spending is comparatively small at $269.7M LTM - this is a manufacturing-scale business, not an R&amp;D-intensive one. Stock-based compensation is only 0.44% of revenue LTM, low even by the standards of a capital-intensive industry.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kkpj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83c446f7-e224-4c67-be08-fc0257c0fa24_2995x1782.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kkpj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83c446f7-e224-4c67-be08-fc0257c0fa24_2995x1782.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kkpj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83c446f7-e224-4c67-be08-fc0257c0fa24_2995x1782.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Shares Outstanding, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>A strong balance sheet in a cyclical industry.</strong> Net cash of roughly $1.5B, FFO interest coverage of 55.8x, and almost no debt. FSLR has the resources to outlast competitors that have failed in past solar-industry downturns.</p></li><li><p><strong>Demand visibility most manufacturers do not have.</strong> A 45.1 gigawatt, $13.6B backlog running through 2030, with US production substantially committed through 2028.</p></li><li><p><strong>US policy has fenced off its core market.</strong> Section 45X tax credits worth $2.10-2.19B are built into 2026 guidance, trade barriers keep low-cost imports out, and the company holds an estimated 30% share of the US utility-scale market.</p></li><li><p><strong>Cheap on every basis.</strong> 10.8x forward earnings, a PEG of 0.51, a Price/Book of 2.3x, and a 9.3% forward earnings yield - all near the low end of their own history. <span>The PEG is the cheapest among </span>competitors still posting positive growth<span>.</span></p></li><li><p><strong>Margins keep expanding.</strong> 44.0% gross margin LTM against a 31.4% 5Y mean, 32.5% net margin against 20.1%, and a 16.5% ROIC that is still rising - both margins are the highest of its competitors.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/first-solar-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>Earnings depend on a tax credit that could change.</strong> 2026 guidance assumes $2.10-2.19B of Section 45X credits - a large share of projected profitability. Any reduction in incentive value or added compliance complexity would reduce margins directly.</p></li><li><p><strong>No structural cost advantage.</strong> On a pre-credit basis, First Solar&#8217;s cost per watt runs modestly above its crystalline-silicon competitors, and the broader industry is fiercely competitive and commoditized. SolarEdge&#8217;s own swing from a deeply negative gross margin in early 2025 back to positive within a year shows how quickly conditions can turn even for a US-listed equipment name.</p></li><li><p><strong>Tariffs cut both ways.</strong> 2026 guidance assumes a net $60-80M tariff impact. A pending <a href="https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/entry-summary/232-tariffs-aluminum-and-steel-faqs">Section 232</a> investigation could affect close to 1.8 gigawatts of finished Southeast Asia capacity, and the company is already carrying about $30M of quarterly underutilization costs there.</p></li><li><p><strong>Revenue is flat to down in 2026.</strong> Guidance of $4.9-5.2B implies a roughly flat year after the Southeast Asia capacity pullback. This year&#8217;s story is funded by margin and tax credits, not volume.</p></li><li><p><strong>Little cushion in a drawdown.</strong> No dividend and effectively no buyback; a Beta of 1.75 and 1Y volatility near 54% mean large swings around every catalyst.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong> a 9.2% short interest is real money betting the policy tailwind fades faster than the market expects. Their case is straightforward: the solar module industry has a long history of poor returns on invested capital, Chinese crystalline-silicon manufacturers have far more capacity than global demand needs, and roughly a third of First Solar&#8217;s own manufacturing footprint is in Southeast Asia, exactly where US tariff policy is least settled. If Section 45X credits shrink or a Section 232 ruling goes the wrong way, the earnings growth behind today&#8217;s cheap multiple could prove temporary. As I see it, the balance sheet and the contracted backlog are real protections, but the position only works if the policy backdrop holds, and that is not something a spreadsheet can fully price in.</p><h2>Competitors</h2><p>The competitors set here is: Enphase Energy (the quality benchmark, though its own growth has stalled), SolarEdge Technologies (a turnaround still working through a brutal 2024-2025 drawdown), Sunrun (the residential installer, financed with far more debt than the rest of the group), and Nextpower (a smaller name with the best returns on capital of the 5).</p><p>The obvious comparison set of large crystalline-silicon module manufacturers like JinkoSolar and Canadian Solar has too little fresh data on the tools I use for this series, so this is the US-listed solar-equipment group.</p><p>On forward P/E, First Solar is at 10.8x. Sunrun is lower at 9.3x; Enphase is at 20.3x, Nextpower at 21.1x, and SolarEdge at a distorted 84.3x - a symptom of earnings that only recently turned positive again.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze7F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc200dc1f-c240-4682-8535-84f22f48ea62_3000x1787.png" width="3000" height="1787" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: P/Fwd E, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Consensus 5Y EPS growth tells the more interesting story<span>: First Solar's 21.3% is </span><strong><span>the highest in the group</span></strong><span>. Nextpower is next at 15.9%, and then the numbers turn negative: Sunrun's is roughly flat at -1.0%, Enphase's is -9.5%, and SolarEdge's is -92%. As a result, FSLR's </span><strong><span>PEG of 0.51 is the cheapest</span></strong><span> growth-adjusted multiple among the names still actually growing; Sunrun is at 0.76 and Nextpower at 1.33. Enphase and SolarEdge's PEG numbers are not meaningful here, since a PEG built on shrinking or near-zero forward earnings does not measure the same thing.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9yov!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ec0a7cf-c0b7-483e-91ee-faca26037f5e_3000x1787.png" width="3000" height="1787" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>On returns on capital, </span><strong><span>Nextpower actually leads</span></strong><span> the group at a 23.6% ROIC, though that is down sharply from above 50% in 2022 as its base of invested capital has grown. First Solar is next at 16.5% and rising; Enphase is at 4.9%, Sunrun is close to breakeven at 0.3%, and SolarEdge is destroying capital at -17.1%, still recovering from its drawdown.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Df4F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75c58d48-00f9-4e9e-9344-13974722f131_3000x1783.png" width="3000" height="1783" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: ROIC, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>First Solar's Debt/Equity is 1.9%, and Nextpower's is 1.5% (both essentially unlevered) against 51.9% for Enphase, 98.9% for SolarEdge, and 292.5% for Sunrun. </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RyCU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21ed5fa9-17a8-42cd-9fa0-cd5031ac5524_3000x1789.png" width="3000" height="1789" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: Debt/Equity, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>On margins, </span><strong><span>First Solar also leads</span></strong><span>: 44.0% gross margin and 32.5% net margin, both the highest of the 5.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: Gross Profit Margin, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X-AZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38c45bda-d463-457c-9613-4d41321661f7_2993x1788.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs Competitors: Net Income Margin, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>In my view, First Solar is not the best business in this group by ROIC alone - Nextpower's returns are still better. But it is </span><strong><span>the only one that combines</span></strong><span> real growth, the highest margins, and a sub-1 PEG all at once.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;a4ad78b1-1b34-491a-991a-9d4e753ef9eb&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: On (ONON) reported its highest gross margin ever and raised its margin outlook: 65.4% (best in sportswear), with full-year gross margin guidance raised to 65%. Still, the stock fell on weaker US demand, HOKA (DECK) and a rebirth of Nike (NKE), the strong franc, and 6.4% short interest. It now trades at&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On Holding: 21.6% Growth for 17x Earnings&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-18T05:01:28.528Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b1694db9-cc49-4517-af3e-aa480d35db04_1200x600.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:210907708,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:7,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Past</h2><p>Q2 2026 (ended June 30, all USD, YoY):</p><ul><li><p>Net sales $1.06B, down 3.7% (missed consensus by 0.4%)</p></li><li><p>EPS $3.92, beat consensus by 43.1%, up 23.3% from $3.18</p></li><li><p>Gross profit $605M, up 21% from $499.9M; gross margin expanded about 12 points to 57% for the quarter</p></li><li><p>Adjusted EBITDA $644M, up 15%, with margin expanding 990 basis points to 60.9%</p></li><li><p>Cash and equivalents $1.69B, down from $2.80B at year-end 2025; no long-term debt, versus $282.6M at year-end 2025</p></li><li><p>Contracted backlog: 45.1 gigawatts worth $13.6B through 2030, with 1.9 gigawatts of new US bookings during the quarter at $0.36 per watt</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTYh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd36cd06-3844-4a0c-abe8-1989d61ecc88_3000x1790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTYh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd36cd06-3844-4a0c-abe8-1989d61ecc88_3000x1790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTYh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd36cd06-3844-4a0c-abe8-1989d61ecc88_3000x1790.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Why is the stock still down 14% YTD, after a quarter like this? I see three reasons, in order of importance:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The 2026 top line is flat to down.</strong> Guidance of $4.9-5.2B implies a roughly flat-to-negative year after the Southeast Asia capacity pullback, and Q2 sales themselves missed consensus and fell 3.7% YoY.</p></li><li><p><strong>The policy overhang never really lifted.</strong> A $60-80M net tariff impact, a pending Section 232 investigation, and a 2026 guidance built on $2.10-2.19B of Section 45X credits keep the stock trading on Washington news as much as on its own numbers.</p></li><li><p><strong>Cash on the balance sheet fell sharply on paper.</strong> $1.69B at the end of Q2, down from $2.80B at year-end 2025, even though this mostly reflects the normal seasonal timing of credit monetization and capacity spending rather than a change in the business.</p></li></ul><p>Worth noting also what a headline-only read misses: gross margin expanded 12 points, and adjusted EBITDA grew 15% despite the sales miss, and the backlog still runs through 2030. A business shedding revenue for structural reasons does not usually see margin expand like this.</p><p><strong>The longer history matters more.</strong> LTM revenue reached $5.38B, net income $1.75B, and FCF $1.50B. Every margin is above its 5Y mean: gross margin 44.0% against 31.4%, net margin 32.5% against 20.1%, and FCF margin 27.9% against a negative 6.1% mean - the company was still burning cash on a trailing basis as recently as 2023 and 2024.</p><p>Total return of 162.16% over 5 years (21.26% per year) against 90.01% for VOO (13.70% per year); and the gap holds over 10 years too, at 16.97% per year against 15.42%. FSLR has already beaten the market by a wide margin, and at 10.8x forward earnings, it does not look like a stock that needs to keep doing that to still be attractively priced.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HM3y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67320e08-c0e7-4f01-b9fc-326ad5bd4260_2998x1781.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HM3y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67320e08-c0e7-4f01-b9fc-326ad5bd4260_2998x1781.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR vs VOO: Total Return, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qjvF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0212b409-3957-4e1e-aa8b-2f9e0c084a6b_831x217.png 424w, 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class="image-caption">Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2026 $5.05B (-3.31%), FY2027 $5.91B (+17.07%), FY2028 $6.53B (+10.49%) - <strong>the flat year is 2026 only</strong></p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $17.60 -&gt; $23.09<span> -&gt; $29.19 (FY2026 - FY2028)</span></p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 21.30%, almost exactly in line with its own 20.41% mean - the growth outlook itself has held steady while the multiple compressed</p></li><li><p>Analysts: Buy (9 Strong Buy / 15 Buy / 10 Hold / 1 Sell / 1 Strong Sell, 36 covering), average target $270.97, +20.13% from here (the range is $150.00 to $402.00)</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: FY2026 sales of $4.9-5.2B, gross profit of $2.4-2.6B, module shipments of 17-18.2 gigawatts, and capital expenditure of $0.8-1B</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FY 2026 Guidance (Company&#8217;s presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p><span>Current vs 5Y mean:</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Earnings: 10.8x vs 30.4x</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Sales: 4.4x vs 4.1x</span><br><span>Price/FCF: 16.2x vs 27.3x</span><br><span>Price/Book: 2.3x vs 2.6x</span><br><span>PEG: 0.51 vs 2.23</span><br><span>Forward Earnings Yield: 9.3%</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Price/Book is 2.3x against a 2.6x mean, and Price/FCF is 16.2x against a 27.3x mean. On a Price/Sales basis, FSLR is actually slightly above its own mean, at 4.4x versus 4.1x - the one multiple here that has not compressed. </span><strong>First Solar now trades at a 9.3% forward earnings yield</strong><span>. To me, that is a high yield for a business consensus expects to grow EPS at over 20% a year.</span></p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The 5Y mean here is distorted by 2022 and early 2023, when First Solar&#8217;s earnings were near zero. A near-zero denominator sent the forward P/E and PEG to extreme, meaningless levels for several quarters, which drags the 5Y average up to 30.4x and 2.23 respectively. I do not use those means anywhere in my model. The exit multiples in the Fair Price section start from today&#8217;s levels, not from the distorted average.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k2XV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67d23a56-86d5-4580-bc69-f3236bdb61ea_3000x1801.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k2XV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67d23a56-86d5-4580-bc69-f3236bdb61ea_3000x1801.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR P/FCF and P/B, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dumo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f5fa145-a1c0-4b6f-8810-1e2524f1b2d6_3000x1796.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dumo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f5fa145-a1c0-4b6f-8810-1e2524f1b2d6_3000x1796.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dumo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f5fa145-a1c0-4b6f-8810-1e2524f1b2d6_3000x1796.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dumo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f5fa145-a1c0-4b6f-8810-1e2524f1b2d6_3000x1796.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dumo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f5fa145-a1c0-4b6f-8810-1e2524f1b2d6_3000x1796.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>One chart frames this whole section. The corridor below takes the consensus forward EPS estimate and multiplies it by my 3 exit multiples: 11x, 15x, and 20x.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAjL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1c771ce-83f9-4497-97d6-28f13826dbdb_3000x1785.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAjL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1c771ce-83f9-4497-97d6-28f13826dbdb_3000x1785.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAjL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff1c771ce-83f9-4497-97d6-28f13826dbdb_3000x1785.png 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2kNF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0a8601f-083f-406b-8d04-3caddb62b8ff_2088x953.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My standard model projects EPS 5 years forward and takes the slowdown risk into account by capping future growth at <strong>20% per year</strong>. Consensus for the next 2 years runs above that (+31.2% for FY2027, +26.4% for FY2028), so my projection is below the consensus average. There are no dividends to add. Starting EPS is $17.62 (FY2026), which gives $43.84 in FY2031.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Consensus moved to $17.60 for FY2026 after I had built the model, which starts from $17.62. The 0.1% difference is well within the 30% margin of safety, so I did not rebuild it. On the newer number, the Bear Case is $273 instead of $274.</em></p></blockquote><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 11x, 15x, and 20x. 11x is close to where the stock already trades today - the current NTM multiple is actually a touch below even that. 15x is a modest re-rating, still well under the 30x-plus levels First Solar traded at during 2022-23&#8217;s near-zero-earnings stretch. 20x assumes First Solar earns something closer to a quality-industrial multiple once the policy backdrop proves durable over a full cycle. The 30.4x historical mean plays no role, because it is distorted by the near-zero earnings of 2022 and early 2023.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 11x): fair price <strong>$274</strong> - MoS price $192<br>Base Case (exit P/E 15x): fair price <strong>$373</strong> - MoS price $261<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 20x): fair price <strong>$498</strong> - MoS price $348</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f7Uw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd711dff-635a-4d7e-9d72-dada822331b7_3000x1795.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR Price vs Fair Price, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $225.56, the stock trades <strong>18% below the Bear Case fair price</strong>, inside the accumulation zone of $192-274. <span>Worth noting that </span>my Base Case of $373 is still below the highest street target of $402<span>.</span></p><p><strong>Verdict:</strong> First Solar belongs in a long-term portfolio as a policy-levered value-and-growth position - not a core holding, and sized like a cyclical industrial with real regulatory risk attached. The company is the largest thin-film solar module manufacturer in the Western Hemisphere, protected less by technology than by US trade and tax policy. The stock trades at 10.8x forward earnings and a PEG of 0.51, among the cheapest multiples in its competitor group despite having the best margins of the 5. My model&#8217;s corridor runs $274-498, with an accumulation zone of $192-274; at $225.56, the stock is inside that zone. I&#8217;ve <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001">owned the company</a> for more than 1.5 years and am going to hold it further. The realistic bear case here is not a demand decline but a policy shock - a cut to Section 45X credits or an adverse Section 232 ruling would reduce earnings directly, since a large share of 2026&#8217;s projected profitability runs through the tax credit line rather than the module business itself. Buy with a multi-year horizon, and judge the thesis on the durability of US manufacturing policy and the pace of the backlog converting into shipped, credit-qualified gigawatts - not the share price.</p><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong>Profitability (10 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$2.37B</mark></p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1.81B</mark></p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1.75B</mark></p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1.50B</mark></p></li><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (44.0%)</p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (32.5%)</p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (27.9%)</p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mostly</mark> (16.5% / 18.5% / 8.6%)</p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">~26% per year</mark></p></li><li><p>Exceptional Revenue Growth Forecast: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mixed</mark> (FY2026 guidance is down 3.3%, but FY2027-2028 consensus implies ~14% CAGR)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">~7% -&gt; 18.5%</mark></p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">~6% -&gt; 16.5%</mark></p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (Missed: 2021, 2022, and 2023)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (Missed: 2024 and 2025)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (Decline in 2022)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (6 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($13.39B) exceed total liabilities ($3.07B) <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">by 4.4x</mark></p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">-$1.54B</mark> (cash and short-term investments of $1.73B against $194M of debt)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.02</mark> (5Y mean: 0.07)</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.02</mark> (5Y mean: 0.07)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage (FFO): <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">55.8x</mark></p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">8 of 9</mark></p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark></p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mixed</mark> (cheaper than most named competitors on forward P/E, but a forward Price/Sales of 4.62x that runs above the broader solar sub-industry&#8217;s 2.13x)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark></p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (21.26% vs 13.70% CAGR)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (1 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (5.54%)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (slight, steady dilution)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys in the last 6M: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark></p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (+20.13%)</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (21.30%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: $205, <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">overvalued by 10%</mark></p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (9.20%)</p></li></ul><h2>Watchlist Note</h2><p>Largest thin-film solar module manufacturer in the Western Hemisphere. No economic moat but a strong balance sheet: net cash ~$1.5B, Debt/Equity 0.02, FFO coverage 55.8x. Gross margin 44.0%. Backlog 45.1GW/$13.6B through 2030. Trades at 10.8x forward earnings, PEG 0.51, 9.3% forward earnings yield. The best margins in its competitor group at one of the cheapest multiples. Down 14% YTD. Fair price corridor $274-498; accumulation zone $192-274. Risks: heavy dependence on Section 45X tax credits ($2.10-2.19B of 2026 guidance), tariff and Section 232 uncertainty, no structural cost advantage over crystalline silicon, no dividend or buyback.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CsKN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19492ed4-b50e-4cf3-84c3-aef08d039b0e_1414x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CsKN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19492ed4-b50e-4cf3-84c3-aef08d039b0e_1414x2000.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FSLR One-Pager (Author&#8217;s summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[On Holding: 21.6% Growth for 17x Earnings]]></title><description><![CDATA[The fastest-growing sportswear brand fell 14% in one day. I read the report and I think the market read it wrong.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 05:01:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b1694db9-cc49-4517-af3e-aa480d35db04_1200x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8KK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3eb26d19-9b0e-4ab0-962c-698500beb290_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8KK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3eb26d19-9b0e-4ab0-962c-698500beb290_1200x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8KK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3eb26d19-9b0e-4ab0-962c-698500beb290_1200x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8KK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3eb26d19-9b0e-4ab0-962c-698500beb290_1200x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l8KK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3eb26d19-9b0e-4ab0-962c-698500beb290_1200x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">On Holding: 21.6% Growth for 17x Earnings</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> On (ONON) reported its highest gross margin ever and raised its margin outlook: </span>65.4%<span> (best in sportswear), with full-year gross margin guidance raised to 65%. Still, the stock fell on weaker US demand, HOKA (DECK) and a rebirth of Nike (NKE), the strong franc, and 6.4% short interest. It now trades at </span>17.3x forward earnings<span> against a 53x mean since IPO. Consensus expects ~25% annual EPS growth over the next 5 years; the PEG ratio is now 0.70. The strategy is premium-only, DTC-first, beyond running shoes, and sustainability. On sells its shoes at full price; the innovation pipeline and the athletes support the premium prices. ROIC is 17.1% and rising while the company is still building stores and warehouses. I see a running brand that becomes a sportswear house with a young audience. </span>The stock trades below my Bear Case fair price, inside the accumulation zone. The full model is at the end of this post.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>On <a href="https://investors.on-running.com/home/default.aspx">reported Q2 2026 results</a> with 21.6% constant currency growth, its highest gross margin ever, and a raised margin outlook. As a result, the stock fell 14% on the report; YTD decline is 33%. The business and the price now tell two different stories, and this post is my intention to explain which one is correct and why.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Growth remains strong where it matters.</strong> Direct-to-consumer (DTC) grew +34.3% constant currency, Asia-Pacific +54.7%, and full-year guidance expects low-20% constant currency growth with gross margin raised to 65%.</p></li><li><p><strong>Valuation is low relative to growth.</strong> Consensus expects ~25% annual EPS growth over the next 5 years. The PEG ratio is now 0.70.</p></li><li><p><strong>The fundamentals remain strong.</strong> 65.4% gross margin (best in sportswear), 12.3% net margin, 17.1% ROIC, $542M of FCF, and ~$0.8B of net cash.</p></li><li><p><strong>The stock derating has already happened.</strong> 17.3x forward earnings against a 53x mean since IPO - around the -1 standard deviation band. Despite the fact that forward EPS estimates have continued to rise.</p></li><li><p><strong>The bear case:</strong> weaker US demand, HOKA and a rebirth of Nike, the strong franc, and 6.4% short interest. My model takes this into account by capping future growth at 20%. Even then, the stock trades below my Bear Case fair price.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em><span>All prices and multiples in this post are in </span>USD<span>, because ONON is the NYSE listing. On itself is a Swiss company and reports in </span>CHF<span>.</span></em></p></blockquote><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p><span>Next Earnings Date: 10 Nov 2026 (estimated)</span><br><span>Market Cap: $10.36B</span><br><span>Sector: Consumer Discretionary | Industry: Textiles, Apparel and Luxury Goods</span><br><span>Type: Mid Growth</span><br><span>Short Interest: 6.4%</span></p></blockquote><p><span>On Holding AG is a Swiss premium sportswear company from Zurich. It was founded in 2010 by former professional triathlete Olivier Bernhard together with David Allemann and Caspar Coppetti. </span><strong><span>Roger Federer</span></strong><span> has been an investor and product partner since 2019. </span>CloudTec<span> cushioning is </span>their core technology<span>. Newer technologies include the LightSpray one-piece upper (a robot sprays the shoe in minutes) and the SURREAL superfoam that debuts in the Cloudsurfer 3 later this year.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f6c7b7e-f8d8-4987-aa15-4f1d2ed8ae01_2993x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f6c7b7e-f8d8-4987-aa15-4f1d2ed8ae01_2993x1927.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Income in USD, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The </span><strong><span>product range</span></strong><span> covers road running (Cloud, Cloudsurfer, Cloudmonster, Cloudrunner), racing (Cloudboom Strike, LightSpray), trail (Cloudvista, Cloudultra), tennis (THE ROGER line), training shoes, lifestyle (Cloudtilt, Cloudnova), plus a fast-growing apparel and accessories business. Distribution is a mix of premium wholesale and DTC: own stores, e-commerce, and the app. DTC is </span><strong>45.7% of sales</strong><span> and rising - the main source of the high gross margin.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSEF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F239503db-846e-44ea-9c62-9fd90802ed2e_1832x925.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sSEF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F239503db-846e-44ea-9c62-9fd90802ed2e_1832x925.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Revenue by Distribution in CHF, 5Y (StockAnalysis)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Market Overview</h2><p>The primary question I see for On is whether the Q2 slowdown is real demand weakness or mostly a temporary effect. The answer determines if 17x forward earnings is an investment opportunity or rather a fair price for a slowing business.</p><p>Global sportswear is a <strong>slow-growth market</strong> where the leader stumbled. Nike spent 2 years fixing itself and is only now recovering; Adidas is still in a turnaround. The premium running niche they both neglected was taken over by two brands: <strong>HOKA and On</strong>. From my perspective, the difference between those two matters a lot. HOKA scaled fast through run-specialty stores and is now decelerating - consensus expects only 7.2% EPS growth for Deckers (HOKA) over the next 5 years. On took the other (slower) road with its own stores, its own app, and full price. <strong>And On is the one still compounding at 20%+.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5SsQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fdb1465-1d17-4b6c-b895-4aca6baa6417_2083x818.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5SsQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fdb1465-1d17-4b6c-b895-4aca6baa6417_2083x818.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">On at a Glance (Company's IR page)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The brand is <strong>still early in its growth</strong>. On sells in 90+ countries but has sold only 50M+ pairs of shoes in its entire history. To compare, Nike sells that amount in a season. <strong>Global brand awareness is only 30%.</strong> This is the growth story - most future customers have not met the brand yet. Where awareness is already high, the results follow. Asia-Pacific grew +54.7% constant currency in Q2 (now over 20% of sales) - Japan, South Korea, and Greater China all performed well. The <strong>first stores</strong> in Sao Paulo and Copenhagen were opened only weeks ago. I see there is still a lot of room to <strong>expand geographically</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GzXr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85034066-4b8d-49ac-989a-53a46732bee6_1819x936.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GzXr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85034066-4b8d-49ac-989a-53a46732bee6_1819x936.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GzXr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85034066-4b8d-49ac-989a-53a46732bee6_1819x936.png 848w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Revenue by Region in CHF, 3Y (StockAnalysis)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The customer mix indicates that we are still in the <strong>early stages</strong>. Consumers under 34 buy the Cloudtilt as streetwear, not as running equipment. Apparel grew <strong>+56.2%</strong> constant currency and accessories <strong>+102.2%</strong>, both from small bases. This is how a running brand becomes a sportswear house: shoes build the brand, apparel monetizes it at scale. To compare, Lululemon (LULU) needed 20 years for the same transition in the opposite direction.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HKtA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5405f888-fa86-411e-9fc0-9c6976e4bf65_1831x932.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Revenue by Product Group in CHF, 5Y (StockAnalysis)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Shoes became a fashion category with a performance core. The winners are the brands that <strong>own a recognizable silhouette</strong>. On owns two (the Cloud and the Cloudtilt) and sells them at full price, while most of the industry discounts.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Personally, I run regularly. Right now my primary running shoes are from Adidas, but I&#8217;ve been looking at On for a long period of time.</em></p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, become a subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png" width="2998" height="1918" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v721!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc19b88f-34bb-4b3e-85e1-0f2003b1c9f1_2998x1918.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>As I see it, the moat is narrow but real. It is shown in one number: <strong>65.4% gross margin</strong>. To compare, Nike is in the mid-40s, Deckers (HOKA) in the mid-50s, Lululemon just under 60.</p><p>Let&#8217;s see what produces this margin. <strong>Full-price discipline:</strong> On sells out instead of marking down, even in a promotional market. Next, the <strong>DTC</strong> mix of 45.7% of sales removes the middleman on nearly half the business.</p><p>The <strong>innovation pipeline</strong> protects the price point. CloudTec created the brand in 2010. The first prototype was pieces of garden hose glued to an outsole; the improved version won the ISPO BrandNew award before the company had real revenue. Today the stack includes <strong>thirteen named technologies</strong>: the CloudTec family (Phase, Sphere, Connect), the Helion superfoams, the Speedboard plate, Missiongrip for trail, and now SURREAL, which ships in the Cloudsurfer 3 later this year. <strong>A premium brand needs a reason to charge premium prices</strong> - On keeps creating new ones.</p><p>LightSpray is a special case. I see it as a <strong>manufacturing moat</strong>, not just a shoe. What is it? A robot arm sprays the entire upper in minutes; there is no stitching and no assembly line. The process produces up to 65% less CO2 than a conventional racing upper; production can happen close to the customer instead of in an Asian factory. A foam recipe can be copied in a season, but a robotic production process is <strong>much harder to copy</strong>. LightSpray started as an elite racing product and now is rolling into core franchises like the Cloudmonster.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp" width="1456" height="1092" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1092,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LNl9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21fd7fdd-28ec-402d-b6e9-a3504bf30e52_4378x3283.webp 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">LightSpray Robotic Manufacturing (Company&#8217;s website)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Worth mentioning also the <strong>athletes</strong>. On Labs in Zurich puts elite athletes in the same room as the engineers. Hellen Obiri wins marathon majors in the shoes, Kristian Blummenfelt validates them in triathlon, the On Athletics Club builds track credibility, and Iga Swiatek and Ben Shelton carry the tennis line after Federer&#8217;s playing career. For a performance brand, <strong>podium wins</strong> are the best advertising. The under-34 audience that buys the Cloudtilt follows the same athletes on social media.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0j-T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd46f9496-00fc-4cfd-a352-4a641215cbf0_2048x1365.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0j-T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd46f9496-00fc-4cfd-a352-4a641215cbf0_2048x1365.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0j-T!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd46f9496-00fc-4cfd-a352-4a641215cbf0_2048x1365.jpeg 848w, 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All four are at or near record highs and continue to rise.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uicE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3943ee5f-9014-4d65-98ae-f21588374b33_2985x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uicE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3943ee5f-9014-4d65-98ae-f21588374b33_2985x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uicE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3943ee5f-9014-4d65-98ae-f21588374b33_2985x1920.png 848w, 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ROIC </span><strong><span>increased from ~11% to 17.1%</span></strong><span> in 3 years while the company was still building stores and warehouses. The </span>24% ROE comes with very little leverage<span> (Debt/Equity is only 0.30). Every franc On reinvests creates value thanks to a </span>cost of capital around 9-10%<span>. To compare, Deckers (HOKA) is still ahead at 33.8% - that is the level On's returns can grow into as the store base matures.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;d08c1e20-ab5f-4c31-8ce5-01194fff8f1e&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Reddit is the biggest archive of human conversation on the internet and is currently the fastest-growing ad platform on a large scale. The share dropped 21% following the Q2 report and has fallen 30% so far this year, even though revenue increased by 61% (achieving eight quarters in a row of growth above 60%) wit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Reddit: 61% Growth, Priced for 20%&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-11T05:01:32.994Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e314e66c-1649-4979-898e-9e7cd5996b7c_4000x2741.avif&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:209906326,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:11,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q1Dc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e994686-0e2b-473d-bbee-3d4a09d06c14_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Business Strategy</h2><p>Here, I would like to define four choices that create the strategy. First, <strong>premium-only</strong> - On does not chase volume. Wholesale sell-in is deliberately managed, discounts are rare, and management repeats in every call that they only pursue growth that protects and promotes the brand. This quarter proved their statement - they accepted +4.8% in wholesale instead of pushing extra volume into the channel.</p><p>Second, <strong>DTC-first</strong>. Management describes its own stores as &#8220;highly profitable premium brand hubs&#8221;. Worth noting that the store network is still small by competitors&#8217; standards - the Sao Paulo and Copenhagen openings were the first ones in those markets (15 years into the company&#8217;s life). Every point of DTC mix adds gross margin. At 45.7% of sales, there is <strong>still a long way to go</strong>.</p><p>Third, <strong>beyond running shoes</strong>. Apparel and accessories are the fastest-growing product lines. At the same time, tennis is becoming a real franchise: Federer&#8217;s THE ROGER line started it, and the current team keeps it visible on tour. Though these businesses are still small next to running shoes. Each new category is sold through stores and the app that the shoe business already paid for.</p><p>Fourth, <strong>the next generation of customers</strong>. I do not buy stocks for sustainability reports, but I pay attention when sustainability is a sales argument. Their <a href="https://www.on.com/en-de/stories/innovating-a-virgin-fossil-free-future-at-on">stated goal</a> is fossil-free materials with circular systems. The LightSpray emissions cut is a product feature; Cyclon is a subscription where the customer returns the shoe for recycling. Together with the Right to Run community program and a memorable mission (&#8220;ignite the human spirit through movement&#8221;), this is a brand that the youngest cohort of buyers picks for its responsibility. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The balance sheet is </span><strong><span>simple and conservative</span></strong><span>. Cash and short-term investments of $1.49B against $696M of total debt - that means roughly </span>$0.8B of net cash<span>. Debt/Equity is only 0.30, and FFO interest coverage is 21.8x. There is </span><strong><span>no dividend and no buyback</span></strong><span>; the share count grows slightly (buyback yield is -0.12%). Worth noting that stock-based compensation is only 2.25% of revenue, down from over 20% in the IPO era. In my opinion, </span><strong><span>the dilution problem is solved</span></strong><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I8K7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2a2b0d-10e9-44a6-ba61-c481f985252d_2995x1932.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I8K7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2a2b0d-10e9-44a6-ba61-c481f985252d_2995x1932.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I8K7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b2a2b0d-10e9-44a6-ba61-c481f985252d_2995x1932.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON FFO Coverage, Debt/Equity and Debt/Capital, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>FCF of $542M funds the store network and inventory without new debt. The FCF history shows the </span><strong><span>maturation of the business</span></strong><span>: negative through 2022 - 2023 while the company built inventory and logistics; positive and growing from 2024.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhtK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ff00e80-61ac-4b91-90da-976255a4fde8_3000x1938.png" width="3000" height="1938" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON FCF and FCF Margin, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LwFJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F337bbf7f-68a4-4fa6-b5ac-6370e6b680fa_3000x1933.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON SBC and SBC % of Revenues, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The best growth and margin combination among the competitors.</strong> Consensus expects ~25% EPS growth over the next 5 years, and the 65.4% gross margin is above every major sportswear competitor. Normally, an investor pays for one of those. Here both come in one stock.</p></li><li><p><strong>Margin expansion has a built-in driver.</strong> DTC is 45.7% of sales and rising; every extra point of the mix adds gross margin. The store network is still small by competitors&#8217; standards, so this driver has years left.</p></li><li><p><strong>The balance sheet is safe.</strong> Net cash of ~$0.8B, FCF margin of 13.6%, interest coverage of 21.8x. Whatever the consumer does the next year, On is not a solvency risk.</p></li><li><p><strong>The brand is still early.</strong> 90+ countries but only 30% global awareness; 50M+ pairs sold in the company&#8217;s history; apparel and accessories growing 50%+ constant currency from small bases. Most future customers have not met the brand yet.</p></li><li><p><strong>The derating has already happened.</strong> From 200x+ at IPO to 17x forward, while net income margin increased from negative to 12.3% and ROIC increased to 17.1%.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/on-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>A consumer cyclical in a promotional market.</strong> Americas at +4.5% reported is the weaker part, since shoes are discretionary spending. A potential US recession would hit both volume and the wholesale channel.</p></li><li><p><strong>Currency and tariffs.</strong> On reports in CHF, sells mostly in dollars, and absorbs US import tariffs. The strong franc removed about 8 points of reported growth this quarter and can keep doing it. This does not touch the business quality, but it does touch the headline numbers the market trades on.</p></li><li><p><strong>Competition is a meaningful risk.</strong> HOKA is bigger in run specialty, Nike is recovering, and every brand now sells a thick-cushion shoe. The Cloudtilt is a fashion item, but fashion cycles end eventually.</p></li><li><p><strong>Nothing supports the stock in a drawdown.</strong> No dividend, no buyback, slight dilution - when sentiment turns, there is no mechanical buyer. The 33% YTD fall during a year of 20%+ growth shows how this feels.</p></li><li><p><strong>The stock is volatile.</strong> 1Y volatility of ~50, short interest of 6.4%, and a 22% intraday swing on earnings day. Position sizing is critical here.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong> a 6.4% short interest is serious money betting that the slowdown is real. Their case is simple. The Americas grew only 4.5% reported in the most important shoes market; &#8220;wholesale discipline&#8221; is what every brand says when sell-in gets soft. Deckers (HOKA) already showed how this story can go: HOKA decelerated, the multiple fell to 12x and stayed there. If On&#8217;s constant currency growth slides to the mid-teens, my 17x Bear Case is not a floor but a ceiling. As I see it, the real risk is the growth, not the franc. Q2&#8217;s DTC +34.3% constant currency and the raised margin guidance tell me the brand is fine. Even then, the position must be sized for the chance that this view is wrong.</p><h2>Competitors</h2><p>The competitors set here are: Nike (the giant), Deckers (HOKA, the closest rival), Lululemon (the premium athleisure benchmark), and Adidas. On forward P/E, ONON is at 17.3x and in the middle of the group; Nike is at 23.7x, Adidas at 15.3x, Deckers at 12.1x, and Lululemon at 11.1x.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jEQB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd169d0ad-1ac2-4cc5-8333-69d16d5c26d8_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jEQB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd169d0ad-1ac2-4cc5-8333-69d16d5c26d8_3000x1920.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON vs Competitors: P/Fwd E, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Consensus 5Y EPS growth: </span><strong>On 24.8%</strong><span>, Adidas 21.5%, Nike 13.2%, Lululemon 9.3%, Deckers 7.2%. As a result, On's PEG of 0.70 is the cheapest in the group. To compare, Nike trades at 1.80 per unit of growth and Deckers at 1.69. Deckers and Lululemon are cheap because their growth stalled. ONON is priced near them while growing 3x faster.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B4Q9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19033b84-d1ab-472b-ad51-b4c33bd866db_3000x1933.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B4Q9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19033b84-d1ab-472b-ad51-b4c33bd866db_3000x1933.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B4Q9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19033b84-d1ab-472b-ad51-b4c33bd866db_3000x1933.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON vs Competitors: EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3KZ-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fdfd067-9296-480a-b5e1-ca1e61cf0837_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON vs Competitors: PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>On returns on capital, Deckers leads with a 33.8% ROIC, Lululemon is at 20.9%, ONON is at 17.1% and rising, and Adidas and Nike are in the low teens. On Price/Sales, the whole group has compressed: ONON at 2.2x is nearly level with Deckers at 2.1x; Nike and Lululemon are at 1.3x. In my view, On is not the best business here yet (Deckers is), but it is the <strong>one improving fastest</strong>. And the only one that grows above 20% while priced like the slow ones.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sYjo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab211b25-36ab-4337-a0cf-dd452012b966_3000x1928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sYjo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab211b25-36ab-4337-a0cf-dd452012b966_3000x1928.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sYjo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab211b25-36ab-4337-a0cf-dd452012b966_3000x1928.png 848w, 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booked</p></li><li><p>Net income 105.0M against a 40.9M loss a year ago; adjusted EBITDA margin 19.8%</p></li><li><p>Cash increased by 18% to 1,205.6M</p></li></ul><p><strong>Why did the stock fall 14% on these numbers?</strong><span> I see five reasons, in order of importance:</span></p><ul><li><p><strong>The FX effect.</strong> Net sales grew 13.5% as reported but 21.6% in constant currency. The Swiss franc got stronger, and roughly 8 points of growth disappeared in translations.</p></li><li><p><strong>The sales miss.</strong> Consensus expected more than CHF 850.3 million, and did not get it.</p></li><li><p><strong>Americas looked weak.</strong> +4.5% was reported in the biggest region. In constant currency, it was +13.0%. Still the slowest region, but far from the near-zero the reported number suggests.</p></li><li><p><strong>Weak wholesale.</strong> The channel grew only 4.8%. The company states it was deliberate: full-price discipline in a heavily promotional market and a clean runway for the new product cycle. The market read it as demand weakness.</p></li><li><p><strong>Guidance.</strong> Full-year constant currency growth &#8220;in the low-20% range&#8221; after +24% in H1 implies some deceleration in H2, even if part of it is the wholesale choice above.</p></li></ul><p>Worth noting also what the sellers skipped: On <strong>raised</strong> its full-year gross margin guidance to at least 65% and kept the adjusted EBITDA margin at 19.5 - 20%. <strong>A brand that is losing demand does not raise its margin guidance</strong> while absorbing US tariffs at full price. In my view, this combination of a slower reported top line and stronger profitability is a currency and channel story, not a brand story.</p><p>The longer history matters more. In 2022, the company lost money and burned cash: LTM EPS bottomed at -$0.65, and FCF was negative for 2 years. Since then, LTM revenue reached $3.99B, net income $490M, and FCF $542M. <strong>Every margin is above its 5Y mean</strong>. Net income margin increased from a 2% average to 12.3% today.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jQQR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a781221-7474-4802-acf0-e27aacfa81ef_3000x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jQQR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a781221-7474-4802-acf0-e27aacfa81ef_3000x1927.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jQQR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a781221-7474-4802-acf0-e27aacfa81ef_3000x1927.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>And the stock? Total return of 3.62% over 5 years (0.71% per year) against 89.05% for the S&amp;P 500. And this despite the fact that the business roughly <strong>tripled over the same period</strong>. That is what makes the valuation interesting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eRyb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a5cb54a-6a69-46c6-a546-6209234d25c1_3000x1928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eRyb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a5cb54a-6a69-46c6-a546-6209234d25c1_3000x1928.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eRyb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a5cb54a-6a69-46c6-a546-6209234d25c1_3000x1928.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON vs VOO, Total Return 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mUJo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6abb237-e5b0-4cb0-ac03-bb944030d9f3_826x210.png 424w, 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class="image-caption">ONON Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2026 $4.32B (+13.57%), FY2027 $5.13B (+18.67%), FY2028 $6.18B (+20.57%) - note the reacceleration as FX normalizes</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $1.73 -&gt; $2.06 -&gt; $2.57 (FY2026 - FY2028)</p></li><li><p>5Y forward EPS growth estimate: 24.79%, versus a 40.18% mean since IPO - the street already cut its expectations nearly in half</p></li><li><p>Analysts: Strong Buy (7 Strong Buy / 16 Buy / 4 Hold / 1 Sell, 28 covering), average target <strong>$46.15</strong>, +48% from here (the range is $19.98 to $72.91)</p></li><li><p>Company guidance: FY2026 constant currency sales growth in the low-20% range, gross margin at least 65.0%, adjusted EBITDA margin 19.5 - 20.0%</p></li></ul><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Current vs 5Y mean:<br><span>Price/Fwd Earnings: 17.3x vs 53.0x</span><br><span>Price/Fwd Sales: 2.2x vs 5.0x</span><br><span>Price/FCF: 19.1x vs 36.6x</span><br><span>Price/Book: 5.8x vs 9.4x</span><br><span>PEG: 0.70 vs 1.20</span><br><span>Forward Earnings Yield: 5.7%</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iNtA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c1c9df9-5109-44e3-a7b3-5f0d1a7f6e3a_3000x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iNtA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c1c9df9-5109-44e3-a7b3-5f0d1a7f6e3a_3000x2000.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON P/Fwd E and P/Fwd S with SD Bands, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Every multiple is below its mean since IPO. The forward P/E touched its -1 standard deviation band (16.0x) recently. ONON now trades at a </span><strong>5.7% forward earnings yield</strong><span>. To me, that is a value-stock yield for a business with ~25% expected EPS growth.</span></p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The averages here cover the period since the September 2021 IPO. In the zero-rate era of 2021 - 2022 the stock traded at 150 - 220x forward earnings, which inflates the 53x mean. I do not use that mean anywhere in my model. The exit multiples below start from today&#8217;s 17x, not from the IPO-era levels.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Xp7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe399be3f-de71-4d8c-9b6f-e98298192bfc_3000x1920.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON P/FCF and P/B, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png" width="3000" height="1916" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q4R1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26736f44-ce58-4f62-a9a8-91982c723999_3000x1916.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>One chart frames this whole section. The corridor below takes the consensus forward EPS estimate and multiplies it by my three exit multiples: 17x, 25x, and 30x.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g2-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d6b1217-15d9-467a-a144-2911b8ee201f_2977x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1g2-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d6b1217-15d9-467a-a144-2911b8ee201f_2977x1927.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Fair Value Corridor, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mf4d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd50f25-9317-40ee-a917-a0b1e8c8d25d_2262x957.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>My standard model projects EPS 5 years forward and takes the slowdown risk into account by capping future growth at <strong>20% per year</strong>. The cap is a rule - I never model above it. Consensus for the next 2 years is +19% and then +25%, and the 5Y consensus is ~25% per year, so the cap binds, and my path is below the consensus average. There are no dividends to add. Starting EPS is $1.75 (FY2026), which gives $4.35 in FY2031.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>Worth noting that consensus moved to $1.73, when I had already built the model. The 1% difference is far inside the 30% margin of safety, so I keep the model as it is.</em></p></blockquote><p>The discount rate is 12%; the margin of safety is 30%. The exit multiples are 17x, 25x, and 30x. 17x assumes the market keeps pricing ONON exactly like today for 5 more years, despite 20% growth. 25x is a normal multiple for premium growth (a PEG of 1.25). 30x is a multiple for a brand with recovered momentum - still far below the IPO-era levels. The 53x historical mean plays no role, for the reason in my Analyst&#8217;s note in the section above.</p><blockquote><p>Bear Case (exit P/E 17x): fair price <strong>$42</strong> - MoS price $29<br>Base Case (exit P/E 25x): fair price <strong>$62</strong> - MoS price $43<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price <strong>$74</strong> - MoS price $52</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XVVg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3385bf18-156a-4385-b2ff-68f7ae6efe95_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON Price vs Fair Price, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>At $31, the stock trades <strong>26% below the Bear Case fair price</strong>. Not below the Base Case - below the Bear Case, the scenario where the multiple never recovers at all. Worth noting that the Bull Case is within a dollar of the highest street target of $73, so the corridor is not built on my private optimism.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em><strong>For transparency about the timing:</strong> I <a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001">bought at ~$38</a> in early August, before the report. The model said the zone starts at $42, and I paid inside it. Two weeks later, the market set the price 18% lower. This is why the margin of safety exists - it does not protect from a drawdown, it decides whether the drawdown is a problem or an opportunity.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Verdict:</strong> <span>ONON belongs in a long-term portfolio as a </span>premium-brand growth position<span>. Not a core holding, and sized like a volatile mid-cap consumer cyclical. The company is the strongest growth story in sportswear: the best gross margin in the industry (65.4%), 20%+ constant currency growth, ~$0.8B of net cash, and rising returns on capital. The stock trades at </span>17x forward earnings with a PEG of 0.70<span>, priced next to competitors that grow 3x slower. My model takes the risks into account by capping future growth at 20% and still produces a fair price corridor of $42 - 74. At $31, the stock is 26% below even the Bear Case, deep inside the </span>accumulation zone of $29 - 42<span>. I own the stock from ~$38, as documented in the </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001"><span>July portfolio update</span></a><span>. In my view, the realistic bear case is not a crash but dead money - constant currency growth slides to the mid-teens, and the stock moves sideways with 20% swings on every report. Buy with a multi-year horizon, and judge the thesis on constant currency growth and gross margin, not the share price.</span></p><h2><strong>Due Diligence</strong></h2><p><strong>Profitability (11 of 15):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $2.58B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $549M</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $490M</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $542M</p></li><li><p><span>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: </span><mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Yes</span></mark><span> (</span>64.8%)</p></li><li><p><span>Net margin &gt;= 10%: </span><mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Yes</span></mark><span> (</span>12.3%)</p></li><li><p><span>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: </span><mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Yes</span></mark><span> (</span>13.6%)</p></li><li><p><span>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mostly</mark><span> (17.1% / 24.0% / 9.6%)</span></p></li><li><p>Strong 3Y Revenue Growth: ~30% per year</p></li><li><p>Exceptional Revenue Growth Forecast: ~19% per year over the next 3 years</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: ~8% -&gt; 24%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: ~11% -&gt; 17%</p></li><li><p><span>Revenue surprises in the last 5Y in a row: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (2023 missed)</span></p></li><li><p><span>EPS surprises in the last 5Y in a row: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (2021 and 2023 missed)</span></p></li><li><p><span>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (Decline in 2025)</span></p></li></ul><p><strong>Financial Strength (6 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($4.01B) exceed total liabilities ($1.65B) <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">by 2.4x</mark></p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">-$0.79B</mark> (cash and short-term investments of $1.49B against $696M of debt)</p></li><li><p><span>Low Debt/Equity: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.30</mark><span> (5Y mean: 0.24)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Debt/Capital: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">0.23</mark><span> (5Y mean: 0.19)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Interest coverage (FFO): </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">21.8x</mark></p></li><li><p><span>Piotroski F-Score: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">8 of 9</mark></p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage (2 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p><span>Valuation &lt; 5Y mean: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark></p></li><li><p><span>Valuation &lt; the industry: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mixed</mark></p></li><li><p><span>Does it have a moat: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark><span> (narrow)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 over 5Y: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (0.71% vs 13.58% CAGR)</span></p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares (2 of 3):</strong></p><ul><li><p><span>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark><span> (founder-led, ~31%)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (slight dilution)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Insider buys in the last 6M: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark><span> (May)</span></p></li></ul><p><strong>Price (3 of 4):</strong></p><ul><li><p><span>1Y price forecast &gt; 10%: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+48%</mark></p></li><li><p><span>Next 5Y EPS growth estimate (CAGR) &gt; 10%: </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark><span> (~24.8%)</span></p></li><li><p><span>DCF Value: ~$74.75; </span><mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">undervalued by ~58%</mark></p></li><li><p><span>Short Interest &lt; 5%: </span><mark data-color="rgb(255, 242, 204)" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark><span> (6.4%)</span></p></li></ul><h2>Watchlist Note</h2><p>Premium Swiss sportswear compounder. +21.6% cc sales growth, 65.4% GM (best in sportswear), net cash ~$0.8B, FCF margin 13.6%. 17x fwd P/E vs 53x avg since IPO, PEG 0.70 - cheapest growth in the competitors group. Fell 33% YTD on FX translation and a deliberate wholesale decision, not brand weakness. Fair price corridor $42 - 74; accumulation zone $29 - 42. Risks: US consumer, CHF translation, HOKA/Nike competition, 6.4% short interest.</p><h2>One-Pager</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!26WH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e3374d8-ab29-4a13-8064-7b83955fb1af_1414x2000.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">ONON One-Pager (Author&#8217;s summary)</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p><em>This is not a financial or investing recommendation. It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LTP Portfolio #001: Introducing My Portfolio]]></title><description><![CDATA[The first monthly update: what I own, why 40% of it is in bonds, and where the money goes next.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-001</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 05:00:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> Since December 2021, the portfolio is up </span>+101.45%<span> vs </span>+67.48%<span> for the S&amp;P 500. That is </span>+16.12% annualized<span> with a beta of 0.95. Right now: 10 positions, </span>~40% in treasuries<span>, and I just started moving that cash into stocks - </span>MSFT in July, NVDA and ONON in early August<span>. From now on, I publish this update in the first days of every month.</span></p><h2>Why I am publishing this  </h2><p>On this website, I analyze companies that I find appealing. This series is the other side of the story, showing the portfolio where <strong>I invest my own money based on those analyses</strong>. Each month, you will see the returns, every trade, and the reasoning behind my decisions. I will include the losers too. I currently have two positions down 31% and 38%, and I will discuss both today.  </p><p>The rules I follow (what I buy, how much I invest, and when I sell) are documented separately in the <strong><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/ltp-portfolio-manifest">LTP Portfolio Manifest</a></strong>. This update demonstrates how those rules work.  </p><h2>The method  </h2><p>I track everything in Portseido. Returns are <strong>time-weighted (TWR)</strong>, so deposits and withdrawals do not distort the numbers. What you see is pure investment performance. I compare my results against <strong>four benchmarks</strong>: S&amp;P 500, QQQ, VUG, and SPYG. My portfolio combines growth stocks with value stocks and bonds. Relying on just one index would misrepresent my performance. <strong>I share percentages, not dollar amounts</strong>.</p><h2>The track record</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png" width="1846" height="703" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!10HO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d5479-d8b3-46d2-a2bb-086cc2f4ca69_1846x703.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Total Return vs Benchmarks, as of August 11, 2026 (Portseido)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Since it began in December 2021, the portfolio has compounded at a rate of <strong>16.12% per year</strong>, outperforming the S&amp;P 500 (11.64%), QQQ (14.96%), VUG (14.45%), and SPYG (14.59%). The aspect that matters most to me: this has been achieved with a <strong>beta of 0.95</strong> and a <strong>maximum drawdown of -19%</strong>, which is no deeper than the index over the same period. It has delivered greater returns than the market while involving no more risk than the market - that is the very objective.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ea4O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b3b5301-f1fe-40b0-9e58-6a01bcbdeb2a_962x591.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ea4O!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b3b5301-f1fe-40b0-9e58-6a01bcbdeb2a_962x591.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ea4O!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b3b5301-f1fe-40b0-9e58-6a01bcbdeb2a_962x591.png 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Monthly Returns vs S&amp;P 500, 2026 YTD (Portseido)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Full honesty</strong>. 2026 YTD, I am behind: +5.72% vs +13.04% for the index. I was also behind in 2024. The reason for this in both cases is the same, and it is a deliberate choice, not an accident, since 40% of the portfolio has been held in treasuries while the market has continued to move. The following two sections explain why I accept that.</p><p><strong>Below</strong>: all 10 positions with weights and entry prices, why 40% of the portfolio is in treasuries, where every dollar of gains and losses came from, and the three buys I just made with the exact reasoning behind each.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reddit: 61% Growth, Priced for 20%]]></title><description><![CDATA[The stock fell 21% on the Q2 print and is down 30% year-to-date while revenue grew 61% for the eighth straight quarter. Here is my full analysis.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 05:01:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e314e66c-1649-4979-898e-9e7cd5996b7c_4000x2741.avif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HEXE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7623f23b-e1f3-4ae8-b964-1f013099c496_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Reddit: 61% Growth, Priced for 20%</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> </span>Reddit is the biggest archive of human conversation on the internet and is currently the fastest-growing ad platform on a large scale. The share dropped 21% following the Q2 report and has fallen 30% so far this year, even though revenue increased by 61% (achieving eight quarters in a row of growth above 60%) with a 91% gross margin, a record 43% EBITDA margin, and $2.8 billion in net cash. At a Price/Fwd Earnings ratio of 18.7 and with a consensus earnings per share growth rate of 47%, the PEG ratio is 0.40, indicating that the market is treating hypergrowth as if it will terminate at the end of next year. The bear case: US daily users have stopped growing, and Google has control over both the traffic and half of the licensing aspects. Even if growth is capped at 20% (as against the 47% consensus forecast), my Bear Case fair price is $213, and at around $160 the stock is trading within my accumulation range.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>Reddit <a href="https://investor.redditinc.com/news-events/news-releases/news-details/2026/Reddit-Reports-Second-Quarter-2026-Results/default.aspx">ended the June quarter</a> with revenue up 61%, a net margin of 31%, and a FCF margin of 32%. It is now trading 21% lower than it was a year ago. This difference between the business's performance and its stock price is the focus of this post.</p><ul><li><p><span>The growth at this scale is </span><strong><span>exceptional</span></strong><span>. The company reported $805 million in quarterly revenue, an increase of 61%, marking the eighth consecutive quarter of over 60% growth, which puts it on a $3.2 billion run-rate. This revenue growth, combined with the EBITDA margin, categorizes Reddit as a "Rule of 104" company.</span></p></li></ul><p><strong><span>Analyst&#8217;s Note:</span></strong></p><blockquote><p><em>What the &#8220;Rule of 104&#8221; is: the traditional software benchmark (the Rule of 40) combines revenue growth with profit margin. A company in good shape should achieve more than 40. The rule exists since growth and profitability generally tend to offset each other. Reddit&#8217;s revenue growth of 61% together with a 43% EBITDA margin makes 104, and it has now been above 100 for five quarters in a row (111 -&gt; 108 -&gt; 115 -&gt; 109 -&gt; 104). To put this in context, both Meta and Microsoft operate in the 60s and 70s respectively and almost no company of this size manages to do both. Reddit is one of them.</em></p></blockquote><ul><li><p><span>Profitability </span><strong><span>came quickly</span></strong><span>. The gross margin is 91.3%, the adjusted EBITDA margin is 43%, and FCF reached $1.02 billion over the past year. Revenue per employee has just surpassed $1 million.</span></p></li><li><p><span>There is a </span><strong><span>clear path for monetization</span></strong><span>. The average revenue per user (ARPU) of $6.18 increased by 36%. The international market presents an opportunity, as 59% of users contribute only 21% of revenue, earning $2.26 per user compared to $11.85 in the US.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The </span><strong><span>balance sheet is strong</span></strong><span>. $2.79 billion in cash against $21 million in debt, and buybacks have already begun, two years after the IPO.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The stock </span><strong><span>multiple has dropped</span></strong><span>. It stands at 18.7x of Price/Fwd Earnings compared to a 47.9x average since the IPO, which is below the -1 standard deviation band. Additionally, the PEG ratio is 0.40, while consensus anticipates a 47% growth in EPS.</span></p></li><li><p><span>The bear case highlights some concerns. Daily users in the US saw a </span><strong><span>sequential decline</span></strong><span>, search referrals are unpredictable as Google implements AI responses, and nearly all licensing value comes from </span><strong><span>just two partners</span></strong><span>. The expected slowdown is set at around 48% for the next quarter after experiencing 61% growth.</span></p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/reddit-analysis?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Oct 30, 2026 (estimated)<br>Market Cap: ~$30.8B<br>Sector: Communication Services | Industry: Interactive Media and Services<br>Type: High Growth<br>Beta (5Y Monthly): 2.03 | Short Interest: 8.80%<br>Dividend Yield: none<br>Employees: ~2,555</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2pkX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ea77d69-feaa-426f-b3c3-eb53f5308945_3000x1926.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2pkX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ea77d69-feaa-426f-b3c3-eb53f5308945_3000x1926.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Founded in 2005 and going public in March 2024, Reddit is <strong>a community of communities</strong> with over 100,000 active groups, 26 billion posts and comments, 130 million daily visitors, and 515 million weekly visitors. Users visit to ask questions, discuss topics, compare opinions, and make decisions. This makes Reddit a vast collection of genuine human opinions on the open internet. It is important to note that it is <strong>still led by its co-founder</strong>, Steve Huffman.</p><p><strong>Analyst&#8217;s note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>I also use this social media platform for 7 years.</em></p></blockquote><p>The advertising division generates about <strong>95% of revenue</strong>: Reddit Ads include full-funnel formats, AI-powered Reddit Max campaigns, new Shopping Listing Ads, and a Shopify integration for merchants. The remainder comes from data licensing for AI training, input grounding, and search indexing (partners include Google and OpenAI), along with Reddit Premium. Besides the main app, Reddit also offers Reddit Answers, agentic search, machine translation for non-English markets, and a Developer Platform with games that encourage daily engagement.</p><h2>Market Overview</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JuXk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd821924a-91a9-4f9c-83cc-a3c135227735_3470x1802.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JuXk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd821924a-91a9-4f9c-83cc-a3c135227735_3470x1802.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Business Highlights Q2 2026 (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p>A key question for Reddit is how a platform based on human conversation will adapt when AI saturates the internet with synthetic content. Reddit <strong>believes</strong> that the value of verified human perspectives will increase.</p><p><span>Daily active unique users reached </span><strong><span>130.3 million</span></strong><span>, an 18% rise, and weekly active users surpassed </span><strong><span>half a billion</span></strong><span> (514.6 million), marking a 24% increase. International daily users grew by 28%, and logged-out users increased by 27%.<br><br>Advertising revenue </span><strong>rose sharply<span> by 64%</span></strong><span>, fueled by higher pricing and more impressions. The number of active advertisers </span><strong><span>grew by over 70%</span></strong><span>, with 11 out of 15 industry sectors experiencing growth of more than 50%.<br><br>Reddit is where </span>consumers rely on confirmation<span> before making purchases. About </span><strong><span>50% of US shoppers</span></strong><span> check recommendations on Reddit prior to buying. Third-party research </span><a href="https://www.business.reddit.com/blog/valuable-cpg-shoppers-turn-to-reddit"><span>indicates</span></a><span> that shoppers from Reddit tend to generate greater lifetime value across various categories.</span></p><p>AI benefits Reddit in <strong>two ways</strong>: the labs license the archive for training, while users who are tired of AI-generated content seek out human responses.</p><p>AI simplifies web content into summaries, whereas Reddit offers the opposite: context, opinions, and first-hand experiences. A potential risk comes from Google, which connects Reddit to a significant share of its traffic. As search transitions from links to AI-driven answers, that traffic channel could shrink.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;96d51de8-cb6d-4ff0-b832-89798367a36f&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: Microsoft is the enterprise software monopoly plus the fastest-growing hyperscaler. The stock is down 11% in a year, yet Azure just crossed $100B in annual revenue growing 43%. Contracted future revenue (RPO) jumped 84% to $678B. At 23.9x forward earnings versus a 29.8x five-year average&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Microsoft: 43% Azure Growth, Priced for a 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Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wkqO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08fc06d4-179c-4aad-a1ab-0d046a6b3d22_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fsOC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c119fb8-112e-4563-849c-689a76b68282_3000x1933.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Reddit has 26 billion posts and comments built over <strong>two decades of niche experiences</strong>. It has the largest legally licensable archive of genuine conversations on the internet. AI has increased its value, not decreased it, prompting Reddit to take legal action against those who scrape its content without payment.</p><p>Over 100,000 active communities are moderated by the users themselves. This structure <strong>cannot be replicated</strong> by any algorithmic feed. People search specifically for "reddit". Advertisers reach audiences <strong>through context</strong> instead of relying on personal data, placing Reddit in a strong position as privacy regulations tighten.</p><p>The gross margin stands at <strong>91.4%</strong> compared to a 5Y average of 87.5%. The EBIT margin is 28.3%, against a negative historical average. The FCF margin is 36.7%, surpassing the 1.5% mean. The ROIC became positive only in 2025 and has <strong>already hit 23.9%</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eJlZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817eefb0-9225-47ff-8a30-0370d7f61afe_3000x1921.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eJlZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817eefb0-9225-47ff-8a30-0370d7f61afe_3000x1921.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eJlZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F817eefb0-9225-47ff-8a30-0370d7f61afe_3000x1921.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Efficiency, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>This advantage is </span><strong><span>real but narrower</span></strong><span> than what you'd find in a mega-cap. Attention is contested every day, part of the traffic belongs to Google, and revenue from the archive is contingent on two licensing agreements. The </span><strong><span>moat lies in the content</span></strong><span>, while the vulnerability is in the distribution.</span></p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YCKD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a0dcd0a-660b-483e-8ca5-6e49816699b5_3497x1719.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YCKD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a0dcd0a-660b-483e-8ca5-6e49816699b5_3497x1719.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Revenue Per Headcount (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p>First, turn weekly visitors into daily ones. Only one in four users who visit weekly returns daily. Management is working on improving the feed to encourage web users to shift to the app, where engagement is much higher. They are also adding features like videos in comments and games. User retention for new app users has <strong>improved by 50% YoY</strong>. The ambition is to reach <strong>one billion daily users</strong> worldwide and 100 million in the US.</p><p>Second, narrow the performance gap with leading advertising platforms. Machine learning has increased click-through rates by <strong>over 40% YoY</strong>. Revenue from Reddit Max campaigns increased by <strong>more than 150% QoQ</strong>. Shopping Listing Ads have launched, and the Shopify integration is now widely available. The mid-market and small business channel has doubled. This <strong>mirrors Meta's strategy</strong>, but Reddit is doing it earlier.</p><p>Third, <strong>monetize AI</strong>. The archive is licensed for training, post-training, grounding, and search indexing, creating multiple revenue streams instead of relying on just one contract. Reddit Answers converts the same archive into a search product. Both search-related activities and the volume of searches have grown during the quarter.</p><p><span>The cost structure highlights where the funds are allocated. R&amp;D expenses totaled $814 million over the past year, making it the largest line item - about 29% of revenue is invested in </span><strong><span>product development</span></strong><span>. SBC decreased from 19% to 13% of revenue. Revenue grew 1.6 times faster than adjusted costs.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qtod!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb11e0f7-09d4-4756-8a8c-4bf1ed6b3c02_3000x1930.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qtod!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb11e0f7-09d4-4756-8a8c-4bf1ed6b3c02_3000x1930.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qtod!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb11e0f7-09d4-4756-8a8c-4bf1ed6b3c02_3000x1930.png 848w, 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This change is due to Reddit's model: the company rents its infrastructure from third-party clouds and doesn&#8217;t own data centers. Therefore, CapEx was only $1 million for the quarter, making up <strong>0.1% of revenue</strong>. This contrasts sharply with AI infrastructure companies. Hyperscalers typically spend a third of their revenue on capital expenses, while Reddit <strong>converts a third of its revenue into cash</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yoWM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd341e570-2626-42e9-b9c8-1d0b4d3170f5_2998x1939.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yoWM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd341e570-2626-42e9-b9c8-1d0b4d3170f5_2998x1939.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT FCF, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Reddit has $2.79 billion in cash and investments against $20.9 million in total debt, with net cash amounting to about 9% of the market cap. Its total liabilities of $351 million are covered <strong>10x by assets</strong>. The accumulated deficit fell from $671 million to $214 million in just six months. The company is <strong>earning quicker than it is spending</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYID!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6ae04-74a5-4411-b82c-c1927410defd_3000x1926.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYID!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6ae04-74a5-4411-b82c-c1927410defd_3000x1926.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pYID!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6ae04-74a5-4411-b82c-c1927410defd_3000x1926.png 848w, 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The company repurchased 1.5 million shares for $235 million at an average price of $157.57 (</span><strong><span>near the current price</span></strong><span>). Fully diluted shares increased by only 0.2% YoY, or 0.9% when excluding buybacks, meaning the impact of SBC dilution has practically been balanced out. There is no dividend at this stage of growth.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EpMj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea5aa62-f696-493f-ab03-6e32b452d633_3450x1880.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EpMj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea5aa62-f696-493f-ab03-6e32b452d633_3450x1880.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EpMj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea5aa62-f696-493f-ab03-6e32b452d633_3450x1880.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" 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This marks the eighth consecutive quarter surpassing 60% growth, aligning with a "Rule of 104" profile, which is 6,400 basis points above the software benchmark.</p><p>The asset that <strong>AI can't replicate</strong> is the enormous volume of 26 billion human posts across over 100,000 communities. As the internet fills with synthetic content, the verified human perspective becomes a unique asset. Both AI labs and human users turn to Reddit for this value.</p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;f4413023-d08d-49ae-90d9-d93842ccb02d&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: NVIDIA is the dominant AI compute platform (GPUs + CUDA + networking) and the fastest-growing mega cap in the market. At ~21x forward earnings (vs a 37.7x five-year average) and a PEG of 0.47, this is the cheapest the stock has been in five years. Quality stays extreme: 74% gross margin, 70% ROIC&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;NVIDIA at 21x: The Cheapest AI Leader in Five Years&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-28T05:01:18.933Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9c143c9b-c4e3-4949-906e-692fd1875c8a_1260x840.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/nvidia-analysis-2026&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:208067160,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:14,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wkqO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08fc06d4-179c-4aad-a1ab-0d046a6b3d22_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><p>Reddit maintains software-like economics <strong>without a large CapEx burden</strong>. It boasts a gross margin of 91%, an EBITDA margin of 43%, a FCF margin of 37%, with CapEx at just 0.1% of revenue and $1.08 million of revenue per employee.</p><p>The company has built a <strong>financial stronghold</strong> early on with $2.8 billion in net cash, insignificant debt, and share buybacks initiated two years after the IPO (essentially offsetting dilution).</p><p>The stock multiple is at 18.7x Price/Fwd Earnings compared to a 47.9x average since the IPO, which is below the -1 standard deviation mark. The PEG ratio stands at 0.40, contrasting with a 0.86 average. This multiple is <strong>2.2 times Meta&#8217;s expected growth</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q9Ds!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eb7d74b-5c58-46c0-8b58-63166c9ac852_3438x1824.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q9Ds!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eb7d74b-5c58-46c0-8b58-63166c9ac852_3438x1824.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q9Ds!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eb7d74b-5c58-46c0-8b58-63166c9ac852_3438x1824.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Financial Highlights Q2 2026 (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Disadvantages</h2><p>The core US user base has stalled. Daily unique visitors in the US reached 53.2 million but <strong>decreased sequentially</strong> and increased by only 6% YoY. Almost all new users are international and monetize at $2.26 each compared to $11.85 in the US. A decline in the premium user base may lead to reduced advertising revenue.</p><p><strong>Google</strong> is both a partner and an obstacle. Search referrals have been unstable and weakened toward the end of the quarter. AI-generated summaries are replacing the links that Reddit used to rank for. Management has <strong>identified their visibility as low</strong>. A <a href="https://s203.q4cdn.com/380862485/files/doc_financials/2026/q2/Q2-26-Shareholder-Letter.pdf">recent shareholder letter</a> (PDF) revealed that management disclosed the impact of Google too late. The company is now building direct habits to counteract the shrinking traffic source.</p><p><strong>Licensing</strong> revenues present a concern. Much of the content licensing value comes from <strong>just two partners</strong>, Google and OpenAI. These agreements are medium-term, carrying renewal risks. Other revenue streams are limited, contributing only $43 million a quarter and growing at 24%, which is slower than advertising growth.</p><p>The <strong>expected deceleration</strong> is concerning. Current growth is at 61%, but the implied growth rate for Q3 is around 48%, and consensus projects a revenue growth of 31%.</p><p><span>The stock is </span><strong><span>volatile</span></strong><span>. It has a beta of 2.03, 1Y volatility near 70, short interest of 8.8%, and a single-day drop of 21%.</span></p><p><strong><span>SBC</span></strong><span> remains at 13% of revenue.<br><br></span><strong><span>What the bears highlight:</span></strong><span> there is a real gap between revenue and users. Revenue increased by 61%, but the users who support the high ARPU (US, logged-in) have hardly grown. If US daily users continue to decline while the stock waits for proof, it will remain cheap for a reason. I take that scenario seriously.</span></p><h2>Competitors</h2><p>Reddit competes <strong>for attention and advertising budgets</strong> with platforms like Meta, Pinterest, Snap, TikTok, YouTube, and X. It also faces competition from <strong>AI assistants</strong>. ChatGPT and similar tools increasingly handle questions that people used to ask on Reddit.</p><p>The charts below compare RDDT with META, PINS, and SNAP. On forward earnings, Reddit at 18.7x costs about the same as Meta at 18.4x, but Reddit's consensus EPS growth is <strong>2.2 times higher</strong> (46.7% vs 21.0%). Its net margin of 31.4% <strong>beats Meta&#8217;s</strong> 29.8%, and its ROIC of 23.9% is the <strong>highest in the group</strong>. Pinterest has a net margin of 6.0%, while Snap is negative. PEG ratios show Reddit at 0.40, Meta at 0.88, and Pinterest at 0.60. Only Snap is cheaper at 0.30, but it has a negative net margin and offers negative returns on capital.</p><p>Considering quality per dollar, Reddit is the <strong>most affordable option</strong> on this list.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!silG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d0e5f99-8e03-4569-96c0-1e65af8abbb3_3000x1917.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!silG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d0e5f99-8e03-4569-96c0-1e65af8abbb3_3000x1917.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT vs Competitors: EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8vjc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c4cac0f-ee07-4499-a608-f42d8393aa6b_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT vs Competitors: PEG (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7zRB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddf23163-07fe-4798-bb3c-0caa06319631_3000x1924.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7zRB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddf23163-07fe-4798-bb3c-0caa06319631_3000x1924.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7zRB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddf23163-07fe-4798-bb3c-0caa06319631_3000x1924.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7zRB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddf23163-07fe-4798-bb3c-0caa06319631_3000x1924.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7zRB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddf23163-07fe-4798-bb3c-0caa06319631_3000x1924.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT vs Competitors: Net Income Margin (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WxMb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8523da45-c493-4672-a988-027fcd3cac51_3000x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WxMb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8523da45-c493-4672-a988-027fcd3cac51_3000x1927.png" width="3000" height="1927" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT vs Competitors: ROIC (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Past</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vcuw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db98589-a0ea-49b3-b3d0-0a22855b1e9b_3458x1901.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vcuw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db98589-a0ea-49b3-b3d0-0a22855b1e9b_3458x1901.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vcuw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db98589-a0ea-49b3-b3d0-0a22855b1e9b_3458x1901.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vcuw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db98589-a0ea-49b3-b3d0-0a22855b1e9b_3458x1901.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vcuw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db98589-a0ea-49b3-b3d0-0a22855b1e9b_3458x1901.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Financial Highlights Q2 2026 (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p><strong>Q2 2026 results:</strong> revenue of $805M, up 61% (US +56%, international +84%). Gross margin is 91.3%. Net income stands at $253M (31.4% margin) with diluted EPS at $1.25, a rise of 178%. Adjusted EBITDA is $343M with a 42.6% margin. FCF is $261M.</p></li><li><p><strong>H1 2026:</strong> revenue reaches $1.47B, up 65%, along with $572M of FCF (39% margin).</p></li><li><p>Two years ago, this company <strong>lost money</strong> on every line. LTM diluted EPS rose from -$9.66 at the post-IPO low to +$4.29. This is one of the <strong>fastest shifts to profitability</strong> in the consumer internet sector.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dR_E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42a497bb-40eb-494b-a552-a47a8df8704a_3000x1928.png" width="3000" height="1928" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The stock went public in March 2024 at $34. Total return since then is +224% (vs +75% for the S&amp;P 500 (VOO)), reflecting a </span><strong><span>47.9% CAGR</span></strong><span> over three years. However, the journey </span><strong><span>has been tough</span></strong><span>, featuring two drawdowns of over 40% within the two years since going public, including a collapse of over 50% in spring 2025 and the current decline of -30.4% year-to-date, with -17.9% in the past month alone. Reddit can gain value quickly and also fall sharply. That's the reality.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bs4g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff20a744d-75d8-4a14-9ef3-0550257ce7e3_3000x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bs4g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff20a744d-75d8-4a14-9ef3-0550257ce7e3_3000x1927.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bs4g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff20a744d-75d8-4a14-9ef3-0550257ce7e3_3000x1927.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT vs VOO, Total Return (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Future</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh9B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eab78d3-bae7-4b0e-a869-5cb58e53be1c_3536x1564.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Financial Outlook Q3 2026 (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p><strong>Guidance for Q3:</strong> revenue between $860M and $870M. This represents a +48% YoY increase at the midpoint, marking a record quarter in absolute terms. Adjusted EBITDA is expected between $385M and $395M, also a record with about a 45% margin.</p></li><li><p>Consensus revenue projections: FY2026 $3.38B (+53%), FY2027 $4.42B (+31%), FY2028 $5.50B (+24%).</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $7.56 -&gt; $9.63 -&gt; $11.79 (FY2026-FY2028). Growth rates are projected at +67%, +27%, and +22%. The 5Y forward EPS CAGR is 46.7%.</p></li><li><p>Analysts have a Buy rating (5 Strong Buy, 17 Buy, 11 Hold, and 1 Sell, totaling 34 analysts), with an average target of $216.35, indicating a <strong>+35% upside</strong>. The lowest target is $120, and the highest is $300.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png" width="833" height="216" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:216,&quot;width&quot;:833,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:16529,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/i/209906326?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!72yi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c23502-c7c2-4794-ad74-18357d58dbf8_833x216.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Price/Fwd Earnings: 18.7x vs 47.9x average (below the -1 SD band at 25.0x)<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 8.0x vs 12.2x (at the -1 SD band)<br>Price/FCF: 30.2x vs 134.5x<br>Price/Book: 9.3x vs 11.2x<br>PEG: 0.40 vs 0.86 (below the -1 SD band)<br>Fwd Earnings Yield: 4.7%</p></blockquote><p>The stock is down 21% over the past year, but earnings estimates kept rising. As a result, the Price/Fwd Earnings dropped from the mid-40s to 18.7x, making Reddit the <strong>cheapest it has ever been</strong>. If you exclude the $2.8 billion in net cash, the enterprise trades at 16.0x forward EBITDA and 7.2x forward sales. Every multiple is at or below its -1 standard deviation band, except for Price/Book.</p><p><strong>Analyst's note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The averages here only cover the 2.5Y since the March 2024 IPO. In the early period, the company had triple-digit multiples on small earnings, so the 47.9x mean makes the comparison look better. That is why I focus on the PEG of 0.40 and the peer table, which considers Meta&#8217;s multiple for double Meta&#8217;s growth, instead of the historical mean.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jvAA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c25de1c-3f09-44fb-aaab-19d97b13986e_2995x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jvAA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c25de1c-3f09-44fb-aaab-19d97b13986e_2995x1923.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT P/FCF and P/B (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>The entire section is illustrated by one chart. Taking the forward EPS estimate that represents the consensus and multiplying it by the three exit multiples from my fair price model - specifically <strong>20x</strong>, which is about the current multiple and the level at the post-IPO trough; <strong>25x</strong>, which is the -1 standard deviation band; and <strong>30x</strong>, which is a small premium reflecting the group's leading growth - the corridor currently extends from <strong>about $171 to about $256</strong>. The present price of about $160 is therefore below the whole corridor, including the bear line. All the scenarios in my model, even the one in which the multiple never recovers from its all-time low, begin at a level above today's price.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ofpA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423e263d-eed6-445d-b44c-26672f4b6295_2993x1925.png" width="2993" height="1925" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Fair Value Corridor (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTJG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeeeac9f-3454-4e8b-8555-e1b2f95fcf3c_2300x946.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>I have set a cap on EPS growth at </span><strong><span>20%</span></strong><span> (my maximum value). The consensus estimate for 5Y EPS growth is 46.7%. Even after applying this reduction, the consensus EPS of $7.56 for FY2026 rises to about $18.81 by 2031.<br><br>The exit multiples are </span><strong><span>20x, 25x and 30x</span></strong><span>. 20x is about the current multiple (18.8x) and also represents the level at the end of the period following the IPO, so in the Bear Case it is assumed that the market will never re-rate a company with 20% growth from its all-time low. 25x is the minus one standard deviation figure and 30x is a moderate premium over Meta's 18.4x for twice the expected growth (although this is well below Reddit's own post-IPO average of 47.9x), which I don&#8217;t regard as a reliable benchmark. Future prices are discounted at 12% per year, with an additional 30% margin of safety.</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Bear Case (exit P/E 20x): fair price </span><strong><span>$213</span></strong><span> - MoS price $149<br>Base Case (exit P/E 25x): fair price </span><strong><span>$267</span></strong><span> - MoS price $187<br>Bull Case (exit P/E 30x): fair price </span><strong><span>$320</span></strong><span> - MoS price $224</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2aL8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4298197a-148b-4ed6-8e52-1e1281034381_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">RDDT Price vs Fair Price, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The share price, at about $160, is within the </span><strong><span>accumulation range of $149 to $213</span></strong><span>. The fair value under the Bear Case, with growth reduced to 20% and a trough multiple that is permanent, is 33% higher than the current price. Compared to the fair value based on the Base Case of $267, the </span><strong><span>potential upside is about 67%</span></strong><span>.<br><br>The verdict is that Reddit is not a core compounder such as Microsoft but rather a </span><strong><span>growth position</span></strong><span> which has a 2.03 beta, has suffered two drawdowns of 40% or more in two of its public years, and has a </span><strong><span>real bear case</span></strong><span> if Google takes control of it. That is the very reason the price is within the range in question. I am a buyer </span><strong><span>within the $149 to $213 range</span></strong><span>, taking into account the level of volatility, and I would increase my position aggressively towards the Base Case MoS price of $187 should there be any further weakness. The market </span><strong><span>rewards you for holding</span></strong><span> on to this share through the noise. You should buy with a </span><strong><span>multi-year time horizon</span></strong><span> and evaluate the argument based on US daily unique users and revenue growth remaining above 40%, not on the share price.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, become a subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Checklist</h2><ul><li><p>Gross margin &gt;= 40%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">91.4%</mark></p></li><li><p>Net margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">31.4%</mark></p></li><li><p>FCF margin &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">36.7%</mark></p></li><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA) &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (23.9%, 30.7%, 15.7%)</p></li><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">7 of 9</mark></p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (for 3Y; based on TradingView)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in last 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="rgb(217, 234, 211)" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (for 3Y; based on TradingView)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (for 3Y; based on TradingView)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation &lt; its 5Y averages: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark></p></li><li><p>Valuation &lt; the industry: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mostly</mark></p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (narrow)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 10Y CAGR: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (public only since March 2024: +224% total return vs +75% for VOO)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership &gt;= 5%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (27.24%; based on FinViz&#8217;s data)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (fully diluted count +0.2%, but Q2 buybacks offset SBC dilution for the first time)</p></li><li><p>Insider buys last six months: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (Mar; based on FinViz&#8217;s data)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price:</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y stock price forecast &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (+35.3%)</p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimates (CAGR) &gt;= 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (46.7%)</p></li><li><p>DCF Value: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">~$158; fairly valued</mark> (5Y, LTM FCF of $1.02B grown at my capped 20%, discount rate: 10%, terminal growth: 3%, equity model: FCFF plus net cash)</p></li><li><p>Short Interest &lt; 5%: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (8.8%)</p></li></ul><h2>Due Diligence</h2><p><strong><mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Profitability (11 of 12):</mark></strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $2.54B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $785M</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $871M</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $1.02B</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 1Y Revenue Growth: 65% (H1 2026 - 61% in the June quarter)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 3Y Revenue Growth: ~58% (per year for the last 3 years: ~$0.7B -&gt; $2.78B)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional Revenue Growth Forecast: ~36% (per year over the next 3 years, consensus: +53%, +31%, +24%)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional ROE: 30.7%</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 5Y Average ROE: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (the average is negative)</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: Yes (loss-making in 2024 -&gt; 30.7%)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional ROIC: 23.9%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: Yes (turned positive in 2025 and has climbed every quarter since)</p></li></ul><p><strong><mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Solvency (6 of 6):</mark></strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($3.64B) exceed total liabilities ($351M) by 10.4x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: -$2.77B (cash and investments of $2.79B against $20.9M of total debt)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt/Equity Ratio: 0.006</p></li><li><p>Debt/Capital: 0.63% (5Y mean: 1.14% - there has never been real leverage here)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage: not needed - Reddit has net interest income (~$49M in H1 2026); the balance sheet pays the company</p></li><li><p>Altman Z-Score: ~55 (anything above 3 is the safe zone)</p></li></ul><h2><strong>Watchlist Note</strong></h2><p>The internet's archive of human conversation + fastest-growing ad platform at scale (+61%, 8th quarter above 60%). 18.7x fwd P/E vs 47.9x post-IPO mean (below -1 SD) for 46.7% consensus EPS growth; PEG 0.40. 91% GM, 43% EBITDA margin, 37% FCF margin, $2.8B net cash, capex 0.1% of revenue. Bears: US DAU flat, Google referrals volatile, licensing = two partners. Fair price: bear $213 / base $267 / bull $320 (20% capped growth vs 47% consensus). Accumulation zone $149-213; price ~$160 inside it. Watch: US DAUq, growth &gt;=40%, licensing renewals. Earnings: Oct 30.</p><h2><strong>One-Pager</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2zr0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7bad33a-8029-4731-8b74-1e030db8a2b0_1414x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2zr0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7bad33a-8029-4731-8b74-1e030db8a2b0_1414x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2zr0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7bad33a-8029-4731-8b74-1e030db8a2b0_1414x2000.png 848w, 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It is solely for educational purposes.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Microsoft: 43% Azure Growth, Priced for a Slowdown]]></title><description><![CDATA[The stock is down 11% in a year while Azure accelerated to 43% growth and EPS estimates rose 23%. Here is my full analysis.]]></description><link>https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 05:01:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e64662d3-2719-4cb1-b348-471327818e93_1000x563.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9s-A!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4935aa3e-5891-4003-a772-0728259a42d7_1200x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Microsoft: 43% Azure Growth, Priced for a Slowdown</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong><span> Microsoft is the enterprise software monopoly plus the fastest-growing hyperscaler. The stock is down 11% in a year, yet Azure just crossed </span>$100B in annual revenue growing 43%<span>. Contracted future revenue (RPO) jumped 84% to $678B. At </span>23.9x forward earnings versus a 29.8x five-year average<span> (below the -1 standard deviation band), the market is pricing one of the highest-quality businesses at roughly a market multiple. The bear case: capex at 35% of revenue has crushed FCF. </span>Verdict: my bear case fair price is $453, and the stock trades right at it<span>. My full fair price math and the accumulation zone are at the end of this post. </span>I have been holding this giant for years and will continue to do so.</p><h2>Investment Thesis</h2><p>Microsoft <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/investor/earnings/fy-2026-q4/press-release-webcast">closed fiscal 2026</a> with revenue up 18%, operating income up 21%, and Azure accelerating to 43% growth. The stock still trades with an 11% decline over the past year. That gap between the business and the price is the reason for this post.</p><ul><li><p>Azure crossed <strong>$100 billion</strong> in annual revenue and is accelerating. Full-year growth of 41% versus 35% in FY2025, a 43% exit rate in the June quarter, and guidance of ~45% for the next quarter. Management is <strong>doubling total data center capacity</strong> in two years. And demand still exceeds supply.</p></li><li><p>Revenue is unprecedented. Commercial remaining performance <strong>obligation of $678B, up 84%</strong> (up 25% even excluding OpenAI), with a weighted duration of just 2.3 years.</p></li><li><p><strong>High quality</strong>. 68% gross margin, 40% net margin, 23% ROIC, net cash balance sheet, and the 21st consecutive year of dividend increases.</p></li><li><p>The <strong>multiple has already de-rated</strong>. 23.9x forward earnings versus a 29.8x five-year mean (below the -1 standard deviation band), while forward EPS estimates rose 23% over the same year.</p></li><li><p>The bear case is the capex supercycle. <strong>$116B of capital expenditures</strong> (35% of revenue) cut FCF margin from a 29% average to ~20%. My model absorbs that by capping growth at consensus 15% and using a 20x bear exit multiple. And even then, the stock trades right at my bear case fair price.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">To receive new posts, become a subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Company Overview</h2><blockquote><p>Next Earnings Date: Oct 29, 2026 (expected)<br>Market Cap: ~$3.40T<br>Sector: Information Technology | Industry: Software<br>Type: Mega Growth<br>Beta (5Y Monthly): 1.13 | Short Interest: 1.20%<br>Dividend Yield: 0.80%<br>Employees: ~223,000</p></blockquote><p>Microsoft is the <strong>largest software company</strong> in the world and the <strong>second-largest cloud provider</strong>. Its base is a set of near-monopolies in enterprise computing: Windows, Microsoft 365 (Office, Teams, Outlook), and Entra identity run the day-to-day work of most large organizations on the planet. And every one of those parts is now a distribution channel for AI.</p><p><strong>The product stack today:</strong> Azure cloud infrastructure and AI services (including Azure AI Foundry with 11,000+ models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral, xAI, and Microsoft&#8217;s own MAI family); the Copilot family (Microsoft 365 Copilot, GitHub Copilot, Security Copilot); Microsoft 365 and Office; Dynamics 365 business applications; LinkedIn; GitHub and Visual Studio developer tools; Microsoft Fabric and SQL Server for data and analytics; the Power Platform; the security suite (Defender, Sentinel, Entra, Purview); Windows and Surface devices; Bing and Edge search advertising; Xbox with Activision Blizzard content (Call of Duty, Candy Crush); and first-party silicon (Maia AI accelerators) underneath it all.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Income, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Analyst's note:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em><span>The chart above shows LTM FCF of $72.9B and a 22.9% margin because Koyfin's data does not yet include the June 2026 quarter, where capex stepped up to $41B. On the fresh press-release numbers, </span>FY2026 FCF is $67.0B, and the margin is ~20%<span>.</span></em></p></blockquote><h2>Market Overview</h2><p>The core question for Microsoft is the same one hanging over all of AI infrastructure: does the spending continue, and does it pay back? Microsoft&#8217;s own numbers are currently the best answer the bulls have:</p><ul><li><p>Commercial remaining performance obligation reached <strong>$678B, up 84%</strong>, and up 25% even excluding OpenAI&#8217;s commitments. This is signed, contracted future revenue, and ~30% of it is converting within 12 months.</p></li><li><p>Microsoft added another gigawatt of <strong>data center capacity</strong> in the June quarter alone and remains on track to roughly double total capacity in two years, while still being demand-constrained.</p></li><li><p>Monetization is visible, <strong>not hypothetical</strong>. Microsoft 365 Copilot passed 30 million paid seats, GitHub Copilot serves millions of developers, Fabric has 40,000+ paid customers (up 60%), and Copilot workload throughput is up 4x since the start of the year.</p></li><li><p>Management guides calendar 2026 capex to approximately <strong>$175 billion</strong>, and Azure growth in H1 FY27 to accelerate versus H2 FY26.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O8Rd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19ac16e7-4992-4a4a-afed-7377f6fcdaeb_1797x990.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FY26 Q4 Business Highlights (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Unlike a chip vendor, Microsoft does not need the AI capex boom to continue at any particular pace - it needs enterprises to keep paying for software. The AI buildout runs through the same subscription machine that survived every previous cycle: </span><strong>if AI works, Microsoft sells it per seat per month; if AI disappoints, the seats are still there.</strong></p><h2>Economic Moat</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png" width="3000" height="1920" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lpTa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a6a53-dde4-408c-a9c7-739f9ddda0bb_3000x1920.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Margins, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Microsoft has one of the <strong>widest moats in business</strong>, built on three layers.</p><p>The first is <strong>distribution</strong>. Hundreds of millions of commercial seats across Microsoft 365, Windows, and Entra. It means every new product (including every Copilot) launches into an installed base competitors spend decades trying to build.</p><p>The second is <strong>switching costs</strong>. Identity, documents, collaboration, security, and now AI workflows are woven into a single stack.</p><p>The third is the <strong>full-stack AI position</strong>. Microsoft owns the infrastructure (data centers, Maia silicon), the model layer (the OpenAI partnership, Anthropic and other frontier models in Foundry, plus its own MAI family), the platform (Azure AI Foundry), and the applications (Copilot). It collects revenue at whichever layer.</p><p>But the margins show that the moat is under pressure. Even with the largest capex cycle in software history, <strong>EBIT margin</strong> reached 46.8% - above its own five-year average of 43.9%. Because operating leverage in software keeps offsetting infrastructure costs. <strong>Net margin</strong> reached 40.3% versus a 36.4% mean.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK2V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F918e6f76-3b58-4524-b89d-1e93f9374015_3000x1919.png" width="1456" height="931" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Efficiency, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>More enterprise seats -&gt; more data and workflows on the platform -&gt; better Copilot and agents -&gt; more Azure consumption -&gt; which funds more capacity and models. </span><strong>Each turn deepens the dependency of the world's back office on one vendor.</strong></p><h2>Business Strategy</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RdZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfd9d0ee-7799-4f9b-8c99-414bd8206982_1822x985.png" width="1822" height="985" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FY26 Q4 Segment Overview: Intelligent Cloud (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><p>First, the <strong>infrastructure grab</strong>. Doubling data center capacity in two years, ~$175B of calendar 2026 capex, and first-party silicon to bend the cost curve. Maia 200 <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/satyanadella_our-newest-ai-accelerator-maia-200-is-now-ugcPost-7421583316795039744-Ni7j/">delivers</a> <strong>30% better performance per dollar</strong> than the latest merchant hardware in Microsoft&#8217;s fleet and already serves both OpenAI and MAI models.</p><p>Second, <strong>Copilot monetization on the installed base</strong>. Microsoft 365 Copilot passed 30 million paid seats. It is priced as a premium on top of existing subscriptions. The same motion repeats across GitHub, security, and Dynamics - AI is sold as an upsell to customers who already cannot leave.</p><p>Third, <strong>model independence</strong>. The OpenAI partnership remains central (the investment produced $4.96B of net gains in FY2026). But Microsoft now hedges it from every direction: Anthropic models in Foundry and Copilot (a $3.2B investment gain in Q4 alone), the in-house MAI family in production, and 11,000+ models in the catalog. Whoever wins the model race, the enterprise buys it through Azure.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oIPk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0692122-a087-4ee0-bb15-0dbda3527a6f_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oIPk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0692122-a087-4ee0-bb15-0dbda3527a6f_3000x1923.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oIPk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0692122-a087-4ee0-bb15-0dbda3527a6f_3000x1923.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Cost Structure, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Capital Allocation</h2><p>Operating cash flow grew from $136B in FY2025 to $183B in FY2026, up 34%. <strong>The machine works</strong>.</p><p>What changed is where the cash goes. Capital expenditures reached $116B, or 34.9% of revenue versus an 18.3% five-year average, taking FY2026 FCF down to $67.0B ($182.9B of operating cash flow minus $115.9B of capex) and the FCF margin to ~20% versus a 28.9% five-year mean. In the June quarter alone, capex was $41.0B, and FCF fell 23% year-over-year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUVC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47fff3b0-735d-4360-9d2d-9e70fefb2e94_3000x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUVC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47fff3b0-735d-4360-9d2d-9e70fefb2e94_3000x1927.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUVC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47fff3b0-735d-4360-9d2d-9e70fefb2e94_3000x1927.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Capex, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong><span>Management's defense.</span></strong><span> Roughly two-thirds of capex is short-lived assets (CPUs and GPUs) bought against demand that is already contracted in the $678B RPO, and the June quarter came in above guidance. The balance sheet can afford the bet: </span>$76.8B of cash and investments against $56.8B of total debt (including leases)<span>. A net cash position, with debt-to-equity of just 12.8% versus a 38.9% five-year mean.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yc8P!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3704646c-229e-42af-8b36-a2d64a393a88_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yc8P!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3704646c-229e-42af-8b36-a2d64a393a88_3000x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yc8P!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3704646c-229e-42af-8b36-a2d64a393a88_3000x1920.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Balance Sheet, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-rN0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5bcecc3-80d1-44ba-8405-48a5c0e518a0_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Debt/Equity and Debt/Capital, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Shareholder returns continue. </span>$48.7B returned in FY2026<span> ($26.4B in dividends, $22.3B in buybacks), the </span><strong>21st consecutive annual dividend increase</strong><span> (quarterly $0.91, payout ratio under 20%). And a share count that still declines slightly every year. Stock-based compensation is a disciplined 3.9% of revenue. The trade-off is explicit: shareholder yield of 1.47% versus a 1.83% five-year mean, because the marginal dollar goes into data centers.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t8Bx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F941c3fa4-3160-4fa5-a613-b15c3dd001ad_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t8Bx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F941c3fa4-3160-4fa5-a613-b15c3dd001ad_3000x1923.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Shares Outstanding, Buyback Yield, Dividend Per Share, and Dividend Yield, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Advantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The distribution monopoly.</strong> Hundreds of millions of commercial seats across Microsoft 365, Windows, and Entra. Every AI product Microsoft ships lands on an installed base no competitor can replicate, at near-zero customer acquisition cost.</p></li><li><p><strong>The fastest-growing hyperscaler.</strong> Azure crossed $100B in annual revenue while full-year growth accelerated to 41% from 35% in FY2025. And the exit rate is even higher: 43% in the June quarter, with guidance of ~45% for the next one.</p></li><li><p><strong>Unmatched revenue.</strong> $678B of contracted future revenue (up 84%, up 25% excluding OpenAI) with 2.3 years average duration. No other company at this scale shows its next two years of demand in a single line.</p></li><li><p><strong>A financial fortress under the capex.</strong> 68% gross margin, 47% EBIT margin (above its 5-year mean), 40% net margin, 23% ROIC, net cash, and 21 straight years of dividend growth. The quality metrics survived the largest investment cycle in software history.</p></li><li><p><strong>A de-rated multiple.</strong> 23.9x forward earnings versus a 29.8x five-year mean (below -1 standard deviation), P/Fwd Sales of 8.8x below its own -1 SD band, PEG of 1.54 versus a 2.23 mean. With a +21% average analyst target.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This post is public, so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://longtermpick.com/p/microsoft-analysis-2026?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2>Disadvantages</h2><ul><li><p><strong>The capex supercycle is eating FCF.</strong> Capex at 34.9% of revenue versus an 18.3% average cuts the FCF margin from ~29% to ~20%. P/FCF at 50.6x is above its +1 standard deviation band. If AI revenue disappoints, this spending becomes the largest misallocation in tech history. Depreciation from it will weigh on margins for years.</p></li><li><p><strong>Returns on capital are drifting down.</strong> ROIC fell from ~30% to 22.7% and ROE from ~49% to 34% since 2022, as the denominator fills with data centers faster than AI revenue arrives. The bet is that this reverses. It has not reversed yet.</p></li><li><p><strong>Earnings quality needs adjusting.</strong> FY2026 GAAP EPS of $17.95 includes $4.96B of OpenAI investment gains and a $3.2B Anthropic gain in Q4. The cleaner non-GAAP figure is $17.28. The concentration runs deeper than the income statement: the $678B RPO grew 25% excluding OpenAI. Simple arithmetic puts roughly $220B, about a third of the entire backlog, on one counterparty that does not yet fund itself from profits. OpenAI is simultaneously Microsoft&#8217;s largest AI customer, partner, and mark-to-market position. If its financing falters, that backlog converts slower or not at all.</p></li><li><p><strong>Cloud gross margin is compressing.</strong> Microsoft Cloud gross margin fell from 68% to 65% in a year on the Azure mix shift and AI infrastructure scaling. Modest so far, but the direction matters when consensus assumes margin stability.</p></li><li><p><strong>The legacy tail is shrinking.</strong> More Personal Computing declined 4% in Q4 with Windows OEM guided to decline high-teens in FY27 and XBOX taking impairment charges. Roughly 16% of revenue no longer grows, and the market caps the multiple accordingly.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the bears get right:</strong><span> FCF is falling while the stock de-rates, and nobody (including Microsoft) knows the return profile on $175B of annual capex. If Azure decelerates before the spending peaks, EPS estimates (+11% -&gt; +18% -&gt; +20% for FY27-FY29) get cut, and today's 24x stops looking cheap. I do not dismiss that scenario.</span></p><h2>Competitors</h2><p>In cloud, AWS remains the largest provider. But Azure is closing the gap while <strong>growing faster</strong>. Google Cloud is third with its own vertically-integrated silicon and models. Oracle has emerged as the aggressive AI-infrastructure challenger, signing frontier-lab capacity deals.</p><p>In productivity software, Google Workspace remains the only real alternative. Enterprise share has barely moved in a decade.</p><p>The <strong>newer front</strong> is the model labs themselves. OpenAI and Anthropic increasingly sell directly to enterprises, which makes them partners, customers, and long-term competitors of Microsoft at the same time.</p><p>The charts below compare them side by side. On the multiple, Microsoft&#8217;s 23.8x forward earnings is cheaper than Amazon (28.6x) and Alphabet (25.1x). Only Oracle looks cheaper at 15.8x with the fastest expected growth (28.5% a year) and a PEG of 0.55. But the quality columns explain the discount: Microsoft&#8217;s ROIC of 22.7% is <strong>more than double</strong> Alphabet&#8217;s 13.9% and <strong>roughly 2.3x</strong> Oracle&#8217;s and Amazon&#8217;s 9.7%. And its debt-to-equity of 12.8% compares with 53% at Amazon and <strong>389% at Oracle</strong>. The &#8220;cheap&#8221; AI cloud is running its buildout on a leveraged balance sheet, while Microsoft funds a <strong>larger one from cash flow</strong>.</p><p>The premium P/Fwd Sales (8.8x vs 3.0-7.4x) simply reflects the <strong>highest margins</strong> in the group.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwxW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F902edb53-6d62-4182-8739-5613c6fa1b64_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KwxW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F902edb53-6d62-4182-8739-5613c6fa1b64_3000x1923.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT vs Competitors: P/Fwd Sales, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!unpB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52eba87a-fd26-429a-945e-e5e0e37a4e98_3000x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT vs Competitors: EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SwGJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0ed47af-c621-4436-b145-abae0cf1a494_3000x1927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT vs Competitors: ROIC, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4PNK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ac3e88f-02dd-49e0-b3c7-ca1e0e6f0d7f_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FY26 Q4 Financial Summary (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>FY2026 results: revenue <strong>$331.8B, up 18%</strong>; operating income $155.2B, up 21%; GAAP diluted EPS $17.95, up 32% (non-GAAP, excluding OpenAI gains: $17.28, up 22%); operating margin 46.8%.</p></li><li><p>Q4 FY2026: revenue $90.0B (+18%), Microsoft Cloud $59.3B (+27%), Azure +43%, EPS $4.81 - and the $0.27 of one-time benefits still leaves a clean beat versus guidance.</p></li><li><p>Total return CAGR: <strong>24.7% over ten years</strong>, versus 14.9% for the S&amp;P 500; over five years, 10.8% versus 12.6%. The stock has gone essentially sideways since 2024 while earnings compounded, which is exactly how multiples compress.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXa_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0abac6c5-abfa-4c97-a252-9b1c23ebc431_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXa_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0abac6c5-abfa-4c97-a252-9b1c23ebc431_3000x1923.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Net EPS, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EhD8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e10e1c2-42a6-433a-ae62-bad9bc411460_3000x1922.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT vs VOO, Total Return CAGR 5Y and 10Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>The year-by-year picture makes the setup visible: +57.0% in 2023, then +13.7%, +15.5%, and -4.6% year-to-date. Three years of a flat-to-down price against double-digit earnings growth. The worst drawdown year in recent history is 2022 at </span><strong>-28.4%</strong><span> - that is what "risk" has historically meant for this stock, versus -66% for </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/nvidia-analysis-2026"><span>NVIDIA</span></a><span> in the same year.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o4cM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3086b1be-3012-47df-8b9b-b2e28a8e1dcc_2334x964.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o4cM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3086b1be-3012-47df-8b9b-b2e28a8e1dcc_2334x964.png 424w, 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class="image-caption">MSFT Estimates (Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Consensus revenue: FY2027 $384.9B (+16.0%), FY2028 $456.2B (+18.5%), FY2029 $538.8B (+18.1%).</p></li><li><p>Consensus EPS: $19.18 -&gt; $22.59 -&gt; $27.04 (FY2027-FY2029). Growth <strong>accelerating</strong> from +11% to +19.7% as the capex depreciation wave gets absorbed. Five-year forward EPS CAGR: <strong>15.4%</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Guidance for the next quarter: revenue of $89.85-90.95B (midpoint above the $89.7B consensus), <strong>Azure growth of ~45%</strong> in constant currency, operating margin roughly flat.</p></li><li><p>FY2027 guidance: double-digit revenue and operating income growth, operating margin down less than a point, capex growing year-over-year.</p></li><li><p>Analysts: Strong Buy (13 Strong Buy/40 Buy/3 Hold/0 Sell, 56 covering), average target $555.77, <strong>+21.4% upside</strong>. The lowest target on the street is $400.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LtuZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18914cbf-76ad-4f94-89cd-43e56d95eed2_1818x1002.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LtuZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18914cbf-76ad-4f94-89cd-43e56d95eed2_1818x1002.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LtuZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18914cbf-76ad-4f94-89cd-43e56d95eed2_1818x1002.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FY27 Full Year and Calendar 2026 Outlook (Company's presentation)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Current Valuation</h2><blockquote><p>Price/Fwd Earnings: <strong>23.9x vs 29.8x</strong> 5Y average<br>Price/Fwd Sales: 8.8x vs 10.4x<br>Price/FCF: 50.6x vs 40.7x (this is the capex distortion, not a rich price)<br>Price/Book: 7.7x vs 11.6x<br>PEG: <strong>1.54</strong> vs 2.23<br>Fwd Earnings Yield: 4.20% vs 3.05%</p></blockquote><p>The stock is down 11% in a year while the forward EPS estimate rose 23%, so the multiple compressed from the mid-30s to 23.9x. On earnings, sales, book, and growth, Microsoft trades <strong>below its own -1 standard deviation band</strong>. The single expensive-looking metric, P/FCF, measures the capex cycle rather than the valuation.</p><p>The market currently pays roughly an <strong>S&amp;P-level multiple</strong> for a business with 40% net margins and $678B of contracted demand.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dzxp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F326fae86-9563-411c-b812-fa64ed36f51e_3000x1915.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dzxp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F326fae86-9563-411c-b812-fa64ed36f51e_3000x1915.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT EPS Estimate 5Y Growth Rate and PEG, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgiI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc388c6c-547f-4dfb-8246-4f372cce48fe_3000x1923.png" width="3000" height="1923" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT P/FCF and P/B, 5Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>One chart frames this whole section. The corridor below takes the consensus forward EPS estimate and multiplies it by the three exit multiples from my fair price model: </span><strong><span>20x</span></strong><span> - the July 2026 trough multiple (a market that never re-rates); </span><strong><span>25x</span></strong><span> - roughly the -1 standard deviation band of recent years; and </span><strong><span>30x</span></strong><span> - roughly Microsoft's own five-year average. Today that corridor runs from ~$386 to ~$579, and the price, at ~$457, is in the lower half of it, below the -1 SD line.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0nqZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff51bb63-8c7b-4c02-826b-913539f691ac_3000x1923.png" width="3000" height="1923" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Fair Value Corridor, 3Y (Author's chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Fair Price</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKeb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff96af69c-fc60-43db-9ea4-74fd68d53210_2218x961.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKeb!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff96af69c-fc60-43db-9ea4-74fd68d53210_2218x961.png" width="1200" height="519.9278629395852" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Fair Price (Author's estimate)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Consensus five-year EPS growth is 15.4% - I use <strong>15%</strong>. I am not paying for a hypergrowth story - I am paying for visibility. With 0.8% from dividends, total expected growth is <strong>15.8% a year</strong>, turning FY2027 consensus EPS of $19.18 into ~$39.94 by 2031.</p><p>The exit multiples are <strong>20x/25x/30x</strong>: 20x is the trough the stock actually touched in July 2026 (the market never re-rates from the bottom), 25x is roughly the -1 standard deviation band of recent years (25.6x), and 30x is roughly Microsoft&#8217;s own five-year average (29.8x). Future prices are discounted at 12% a year, with a 30% margin of safety on top.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Bear case</strong> (exit P/E 20x): fair price <strong>$453</strong> - MoS price $317<br><strong>Base case</strong> (exit P/E 25x): fair price <strong>$567</strong> - MoS price $397<br><strong>Bull case</strong> (exit P/E 30x): fair price <strong>$680</strong> - MoS price $476</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tPE5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fa7aa47-972e-4948-ac21-4d4a9443e583_3000x1923.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M" tabindex="0" type="button"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">MSFT Price vs Fair Price, 5Y (Author&#8217;s chart via Koyfin)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>At ~$457, the stock trades right at the bear case fair price of $453 - the scenario where the multiple never recovers from its five-year trough is already fully in the price. Against the base case, the stock has ~24% upside to fair value. </span><strong>The accumulation zone is $317-453</strong><span>, and today's price is a bit above its upper edge. </span>Consider buying the dip below $453.</p><p><strong>Verdict:</strong><span> Microsoft belongs in a long-term portfolio as a </span><strong>core quality compounder</strong>. The lowest-risk way to own the AI buildout<span>: the monetization runs through subscription software rather than cyclical hardware, and with a </span>beta of 1.13,<span> this is the </span><strong><span>calmest AI position</span></strong><span> in mega-cap tech. </span><a href="https://longtermpick.com/p/nvidia-analysis-2026"><span>NVIDIA</span></a><span>, for comparison, is at a beta of 2.21. </span>I have been accumulating for years<span>, and I would size up meaningfully toward the base case MoS price of </span>$397<span>, which roughly coincides with the lowest analyst target on the street ($400). The realistic bear case here is not a crash but dead money: two more years of multiple compression while capex digests. Buy with a </span><strong><span>multi-year horizon</span></strong><span>, and judge the thesis on Azure growth and Microsoft Cloud gross margin, not the share price.</span></p><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;08b7f61c-96f1-43cc-9157-19a5c88d0c68&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TL;DR: NVIDIA is the dominant AI compute platform (GPUs + CUDA + networking) and the fastest-growing mega cap in the market. At ~21x forward earnings (vs a 37.7x five-year average) and a PEG of 0.47, this is the cheapest the stock has been in five years. Quality stays extreme: 74% gross margin, 70% ROIC&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;NVIDIA at 21x: The Cheapest AI Leader in Five Years&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:3162351,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3cc2c712-b3f8-4d29-b306-7dc7e4204ccf_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-28T05:01:18.933Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9c143c9b-c4e3-4949-906e-692fd1875c8a_1260x840.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;cover_image_crop&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://longtermpick.com/p/nvidia-analysis-2026&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:208067160,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:13,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:2707241,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Long-Term Pick&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wkqO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08fc06d4-179c-4aad-a1ab-0d046a6b3d22_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><h2>Checklist</h2><p><strong>Profitability:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Gross margin at least 40%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">67.9%</mark></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Net margin at least 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">40.3%</mark></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>FCF margin at least 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">20.2%</mark></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Management (ROIC, ROE, ROA): <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (all above 10%: 22.7%/34.0%/14.1%)</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Piotroski F-Score: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">6 of 9</mark></p></li><li><p>Revenue surprises in last 5Y: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (2022; Based on TradingView&#8217;s data)</p></li><li><p>EPS surprises in last 5Y: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (2022 and 2024; Based on TradingView&#8217;s data)</p></li><li><p>EPS growth YoY 5Y in a row: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark></p></li></ul><p><strong>Valuation and Advantage:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Valuation below its 5Y averages: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (P/E, P/S, P/B, and PEG all below their -1 standard deviation bands; the one exception is P/FCF, distorted by the capex cycle)</p></li><li><p>Valuation below the industry: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mostly</mark> (P/Fwd E 23.8x vs AMZN 28.6x and GOOGL 25.1x; only ORCL is cheaper at 15.8x on 389% debt-to-equity)</p></li><li><p>Does it have a moat: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (wide)</p></li><li><p>Outperformed the S&amp;P 500 10Y CAGR: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (24.7% vs 14.9%)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Shares:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Insider ownership at least 5%: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (under 1%, but normal for a 50-year-old mega cap)</p></li><li><p>Fewer shares outstanding YoY: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark></p></li><li><p>Insider buys last six months: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (Feb; Based on FinViz&#8217;s data)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Price:</strong></p><ul><li><p>1Y stock price forecast is above 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">+21.4%</mark></p></li><li><p>Next 5Y EPS growth estimates (CAGR) is above 10%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (15.4%)</p></li><li><p>Short Interest below 5%: <mark data-color="#d9ead3" style="background-color: rgb(217, 234, 211); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yes</mark> (1.20%)</p></li></ul><h2><strong>Due Diligence</strong></h2><p><strong>Profitability (10 of 12):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Positive Gross Profit: $225.47B</p></li><li><p>Positive Operating Income: $155.24B</p></li><li><p>Positive Net Income: $133.75B</p></li><li><p>Positive FCF: $67.0B</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 1Y Revenue Growth: 18% (FY2026)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 3Y Revenue Growth: ~16% (per year for the last 3 years: $211.9B -&gt; $331.8B)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional Revenue Growth Forecast: ~17.5% (per year over the next 3 years, consensus)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional ROE: 34.0%</p></li><li><p>Exceptional 5Y Average ROE: 39.0%</p></li><li><p>ROE is increasing: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (~49% in 2022 -&gt; 34% - equity is growing faster than income during the buildout)</p></li><li><p>Exceptional ROIC: 22.7%</p></li><li><p>ROIC is increasing: <mark data-color="#fff2cc" style="background-color: rgb(255, 242, 204); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No</mark> (~30% in 2022 -&gt; 22.7% - the data center denominator effect)</p></li></ul><p><strong>Solvency (6 of 6):</strong></p><ul><li><p>Total assets ($758.4B) exceed total liabilities ($316.0B) by 2.4x</p></li><li><p>Negative Net Debt: -$20.0B (cash and short-term investments of $76.8B against $56.8B of total debt, leases included)</p></li><li><p>Low Debt-to-Equity Ratio: 0.13</p></li><li><p>Debt-to-Capital: 11.4% (5Y mean: 27.7%; the balance sheet keeps getting cleaner even through the capex cycle)</p></li><li><p>Interest coverage: ~51x ($155.2B of operating income against $3.1B of interest expense and interest income of $3.3B covers the bill on its own)</p></li><li><p>Altman Z-Score: ~8.2 (anything above 3 is the safe zone)</p></li></ul><h2><strong>Watchlist Note</strong></h2><p>Enterprise software monopoly + fastest-growing hyperscaler (Azure $100B+, +43%). 23.9x fwd P/E vs 29.8x 5Y avg (below -1 SD) for 15.4% consensus EPS growth; PEG 1.54. 68% GM, 40% NI margin, 23% ROIC, net cash; RPO $678B +84%. Capex 35% of revenue crushes FCF - the bear case. Fair price: bear $453 / base $567 / bull $680 (15% growth). Accumulation zone $317-453. Watch: Azure &gt;=35%, Cloud GM &gt;=60%, capex/revenue turn. 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